GNU bug report logs - #3751
23.0.95; C-h H does not display hourglass cursor

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Package: emacs; Severity: minor; Reported by: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>; dated Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:15:04 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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Subject: Re: 23.0.95; C-h H does not display hourglass cursor
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Adding a "please wait..." message is easy enough, but is there any way
>> to determine when the wait is over?  Emacs hangs in redisplay, probably?
>> 
>> And just leaving the "please wait..." after the wait is over wouldn't be
>> nice, either.
>
> Would it work to let-bind view-mode-hook to some function that will
> just clear the echo area, around the call to view-file?

Hm.  Would that work?  I though that (basically) Emacs just put the
HELLO file in a window, and then the redisplay engine starts churning
and churning while the OS is loading all the fonts.

To clear the "please wait..." message you'd have to have a hook that's
run after redisplay is "finished", if that is even a possible concept.

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> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
> Cc: 3751 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:27:39 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
> 
> > On MS Windows, "C-h H" takes as much as 10 seconds (on a 3GHz
> > machine), but no hourglass cursor is displayed during that time,
> > making it look like nothing is going on.
> >
> > If displaying an hourglass cursor during the time Emacs prepares to
> > display etc/HELLO is difficult, at the very least please display some
> > informative message that ends with "please wait..." in the echo area.
> 
> Adding a "please wait..." message is easy enough, but is there any way
> to determine when the wait is over?  Emacs hangs in redisplay, probably?
> 
> And just leaving the "please wait..." after the wait is over wouldn't be
> nice, either.

Would it work to let-bind view-mode-hook to some function that will
just clear the echo area, around the call to view-file?




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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:

> On MS Windows, "C-h H" takes as much as 10 seconds (on a 3GHz
> machine), but no hourglass cursor is displayed during that time,
> making it look like nothing is going on.
>
> If displaying an hourglass cursor during the time Emacs prepares to
> display etc/HELLO is difficult, at the very least please display some
> informative message that ends with "please wait..." in the echo area.

Adding a "please wait..." message is easy enough, but is there any way
to determine when the wait is over?  Emacs hangs in redisplay, probably?

And just leaving the "please wait..." after the wait is over wouldn't be
nice, either.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/




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On MS Windows, "C-h H" takes as much as 10 seconds (on a 3GHz
machine), but no hourglass cursor is displayed during that time,
making it look like nothing is going on.

If displaying an hourglass cursor during the time Emacs prepares to
display etc/HELLO is difficult, at the very least please display some
informative message that ends with "please wait..." in the echo area.


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