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23.0.95; Wish: please provide kill-whole-visual-line function

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Message #5 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: pent <pent <at> aparamon.msk.ru>
To: emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org
Cc: rfrancoise <at> debian.org
Subject: 23.0.95; Wish: please provide kill-whole-visual-line function
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:33:55 +0400

Hello!

The new Emacs provides function kill-visual-line, which is bound to
C-k in Visual Lines Mode. It would be nice if Emacs also provided
function kill-whole-visual-line similar to kill-whole-line, bound to
C-S-backspace in Visual Lines Mode:

(kill-whole-visual-line &optional arg)

Kill current visual line.

With prefix arg, kill that many visual lines starting from the current
visual line.  
If current line consists of a single visual line, and arg is nil, also
kill the trailing newline.
If arg is zero, never kill the trailing newline.

I'm ready to provide any additional info,
Andrey Paramonov

In GNU Emacs 23.0.95.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.4)
 of 2009-07-03 on elegiac, modified by Debian
 (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20090703-1)
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10402000
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Message #12 received at 3754 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: pent <pent <at> aparamon.msk.ru>
Cc: rfrancoise <at> debian.org, 3755 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 3754 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#3755: 23.0.95; Wish: please provide kill-whole-visual-line
 function
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 17:35:32 +0200

pent <pent <at> aparamon.msk.ru> writes:

> The new Emacs provides function kill-visual-line, which is bound to
> C-k in Visual Lines Mode. It would be nice if Emacs also provided
> function kill-whole-visual-line similar to kill-whole-line, bound to
> C-S-backspace in Visual Lines Mode:
>
> (kill-whole-visual-line &optional arg)

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately didn't get any
response at the time.)

That seems like a logical addition, but I wonder whether there may be
users who are used to `C-S-backspace' killing the entire physical line
in visual line mode, too.

The utility of having that keystroke killing just the visual line seems
limited -- that functionality is already as `C-a C-k', which is about as
many keys, while having `C-S-backspace' do that it does now seems more
useful.

So I'm inclined to not alter the behaviour here.  Anybody got an
opinion?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #15 received at 3754 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: pent <pent <at> aparamon.msk.ru>, rfrancoise <at> debian.org, 3755 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 3754 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#3754: bug#3755: 23.0.95; Wish: please provide
 kill-whole-visual-line function
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:31:26 -0800

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> pent <pent <at> aparamon.msk.ru> writes:
>
>> The new Emacs provides function kill-visual-line, which is bound to
>> C-k in Visual Lines Mode. It would be nice if Emacs also provided
>> function kill-whole-visual-line similar to kill-whole-line, bound to
>> C-S-backspace in Visual Lines Mode:
>>
>> (kill-whole-visual-line &optional arg)
>
> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately didn't get any
> response at the time.)
>
> That seems like a logical addition, but I wonder whether there may be
> users who are used to `C-S-backspace' killing the entire physical line
> in visual line mode, too.
>
> The utility of having that keystroke killing just the visual line seems
> limited -- that functionality is already as `C-a C-k', which is about as
> many keys, while having `C-S-backspace' do that it does now seems more
> useful.
>
> So I'm inclined to not alter the behaviour here.  Anybody got an
> opinion?

Yeah, I tend to agree with you.  So is this a wontfix?

Message #18 received at 3754 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: pent <pent <at> aparamon.msk.ru>, rfrancoise <at> debian.org, 3755 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 3754 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#3754: bug#3755: 23.0.95; Wish: please provide
 kill-whole-visual-line function
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 06:55:10 +0100

Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

>> So I'm inclined to not alter the behaviour here.  Anybody got an
>> opinion?
>
> Yeah, I tend to agree with you.  So is this a wontfix?

Yup; closing the bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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