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Identical describe-bindings makes different sized *Help* buffers

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From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Identical describe-bindings makes different sized *Help* buffers
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 01:01:40 +0800

$ emacs -Q
 C-h b [describe-bindings] makes a 1113 line *Help* buffer
 C-h b [describe-bindings] makes a 1760 line *Help* buffer
 C-h b [describe-bindings] makes a 1760 line *Help* buffer
My cursor was still in the *scratch* buffer at all times.
Not all of the 1113 made it into the 1760 alive either.
emacs-version "26.3"

Message #8 received at 37626 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
Cc: 37626 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#37626: Identical describe-bindings makes different sized
 *Help* buffers
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 19:58:47 +0200

積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org> writes:

> $ emacs -Q
>  C-h b [describe-bindings] makes a 1113 line *Help* buffer
>  C-h b [describe-bindings] makes a 1760 line *Help* buffer
>  C-h b [describe-bindings] makes a 1760 line *Help* buffer
> My cursor was still in the *scratch* buffer at all times.
> Not all of the 1113 made it into the 1760 alive either.

Which ones disappeared for you?  None did for me AFAICT (see below).

> emacs-version "26.3"

I see 1128 and 1779 lines on current master.  Diffing the *Help*
buffers, it seems to be a lot of stuff like this:

+C-x 8 ` SPC    `
+C-x 8 ` A      À
+C-x 8 ` E      È
+C-x 8 ` I      Ì
+C-x 8 ` O      Ò
+C-x 8 ` U      Ù
+C-x 8 ` a      à
+C-x 8 ` e      è
+C-x 8 ` i      ì
+C-x 8 ` o      ò
+C-x 8 ` u      ù

But when I run "emacs -Q" and immediately type C-x 8 ` A, I get the À
character as above (even though C-h b wouldn't have shown it in this
state).  If I type C-h b _after_ that sequence that yields 1779 lines
in *Help*.

I guess this has something to do with autoloading, but I'll leave this
to the experts.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

Message #11 received at 37626 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 37626 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#37626: Identical describe-bindings makes different sized
 *Help* buffers
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 02:15:12 +0800

>>>>> "SK" == Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

SK> Which ones disappeared for you?  None did for me AFAICT (see below).

<XF86Back>      previous-buffer
<XF86Forward>   next-buffer
<mouse-2>       mouse-yank-primary
C-M-i           completion-at-point
C-M-q           indent-pp-sexp
C-M-x           eval-defun
C-j             eval-print-last-sexp
C-x 8           iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map
DEL             backward-delete-char-untabify
RET             newline
SPC .. ~        self-insert-command
TAB             indent-for-tab-command

Message #14 received at 37626 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 37626 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni <at> jidanni.org
Subject: Re: bug#37626: Identical describe-bindings makes different sized
 *Help* buffers
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 22:38:11 +0300

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 19:58:47 +0200
> Cc: 37626 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I see 1128 and 1779 lines on current master.  Diffing the *Help*
> buffers, it seems to be a lot of stuff like this:
> 
> +C-x 8 ` SPC    `
> +C-x 8 ` A      À
> +C-x 8 ` E      È
> +C-x 8 ` I      Ì
> +C-x 8 ` O      Ò
> +C-x 8 ` U      Ù
> +C-x 8 ` a      à
> +C-x 8 ` e      è
> +C-x 8 ` i      ì
> +C-x 8 ` o      ò
> +C-x 8 ` u      ù
> 
> But when I run "emacs -Q" and immediately type C-x 8 ` A, I get the À
> character as above (even though C-h b wouldn't have shown it in this
> state).  If I type C-h b _after_ that sequence that yields 1779 lines
> in *Help*.
> 
> I guess this has something to do with autoloading, but I'll leave this
> to the experts.

Yes.  This is expected behavior, not a bug or anything near that.

Message #17 received at 37626 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 37626 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni <at> jidanni.org
Subject: Re: bug#37626: Identical describe-bindings makes different sized
 *Help* buffers
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 22:02:09 +0100

tags 37625 + notabug
close 37625
thanks

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Yes.  This is expected behavior, not a bug or anything near that.

Thanks, I'm consequently closing this bug.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

Message #22 received at 37626-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 37626-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni <at> jidanni.org
Subject: Re: bug#37626: Identical describe-bindings makes different sized
 *Help* buffers
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 02:14:48 +0100

Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Yes.  This is expected behavior, not a bug or anything near that.
>
> Thanks, I'm consequently closing this bug.

Closing for real this time, sorry about the noise.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

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