Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>
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Full text available.Received: (at 37854) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2019 13:56:51 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 24 09:56:51 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36700 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1iNdbf-0006Ek-7Q for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 09:56:51 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:33903) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>) id 1iNdbc-0006Ec-TM for 37854 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 09:56:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1571925398; bh=PDYlWyhl2pG+Yg6sXFu8A6YWTFhKMbxu561BppKQSAk=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=NTAoUFTDWlVYCb+hrJLnaJk6jx8VK1YaZoW65T0/xq7xtNiSlhtTpKq5cxQCoxqqD SSOVBQ8F5/d7Tag8eGZJSHE13DQKkJefTo6AH0yfag3ZLCILLzaug8aJLhC8TDg9SF WvZCcmhOcbsUsh9udtyxxMX4IfEiWd2YCG45nneE= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.50.254]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M3lYB-1iNuic3mkt-000rZs; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:56:38 +0200 From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#37854: 27.0.50; debbugs-gnu doesn't return date bugs were closed References: <83lftf43hy.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4zdvgx.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ftjm4o74.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4ymugu.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4yqmf9.fsf@HIDDEN> <878spegqbv.fsf@HIDDEN> <8736fmqk3x.fsf@HIDDEN> <874l02gp0q.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2xep3jm.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tv81f7o1.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <87k18xnmbv.fsf@HIDDEN> <87mudqh7vi.fsf@HIDDEN> <871rv2fj1h.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 15:56:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871rv2fj1h.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:02:34 +0200") Message-ID: <87blu6z1pr.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:4ZzUOqO09RIJmPrettZqXA9K5wxKu0nBKqzF7MFjzSpIl7QnWbi /q2cPZNuN7MBocrl52++l4nMTGvyIVxG/rKHGK/SfNqd4kZ+y0t2ysdIUDtdkgVlEDOVM5P Q2KlwnU1QLEuoy8LrYWgUPr0mzGJT7MG8yhCikDDsYGGT1EoXvr92wid2V7axMYxpKclRkd FfxdSj+ZRUX7E3WHmfMiA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:+7Po2iFiRfY=:2fFROMhTciXyyrL8JLRiT+ Ngb9wQ/HzFikfgLpApVNm68Q6+6hmRqRzaLjkhsfdyMc6NjLqTEVMoFOod5aw+zRYCXFEwbUk c3klQD9xpa/WHUy+JDZDx50HeOf0fB6h6MQ5zP5WkrhcZ4/C9AXKIjG9nGOvDohmtl2P3ULWx sGn4yGFgJ9ULDzmQv7HZ7q1QqrNAykWcXKZ2RLmKIHtt4wx2sPJMgCsXkYPMb+gR935NDfGBp aP21ay+86XrJaKwXVjfca3SH6ahDr3NLfGaAJEIEXZaon4t1GTjZlkXs3byEzdgIFSinK7EHY RFj4z+bqcFJqlbxjMvwWLADCWCsksFaR9zSKY7Gp3K7DYP/DxsF58g/I1lToapH9du4fvt0fF IwZvClFLhjnfFRIpzzRXpfQiJmJZ+6+k/lHS1sZmD4te1RH9SrRASAekqMHaoj+xgyp4ro7qC ejs5x6JhQw+iVAmXD9F0VoyQTAgodOmWnx4mevmfUw/JLqazQgN1kR1wOBl01k29p5A2k9gff yUPM6CrKsVEMN6mSHP78tT1JK3n7hzZwicIS9Rq9ghGQ/rEPzaoNmmYotxzpR6Kn2eSFdJXql m4auSvUMUEcu7oiV+8kfrg2Ewuoz3mAW1tAdTLCPVxbKVBito9342Vkchnn3raqE31Uh8pvXK DP6a7QtrILED4ao5AX/md2LPVrq6HVk+cZlgjW3ltqci0CUrKlHxbvV+8aHze4ToAsv+vy2B+ 0Pihep0bcOCGHT1bWkXBAEGq5mjtO9zluPo1JbQPOzPNjJs4Cu1LY2KFuTPqYydPsYWWqpRYb P3MG6RwfhMnh1ar/8YN11LVPWNuJ4h3GeyBLmRiAPkPONl0XoanIpqUTbCl7zI81wqg72P3Ik YKYXE5DWTEM7y4sPoyjI2k/QjUtnoc1/odz+8qbtZt5XBXmze2LSnbRNDskdNAg4ZCdq9OT+G n1gG1orz0swx3sPmJ3VR3zFkKx3MkuKjfteWY549gBWjyguQP5ux9QXiTtVr1EQybXEK+3GYW GD9/LD2GP9Dn9JRQQpK6dNGK2mQPMba9TZKCSTZLsPfFFCBil9qS/XoJ2MBpjwXhrOstG4NGd xhDdOSS9ZeRCKdBPyeLgouJjePuUWu9evMdh3OpBKSs1pQBgdRpxDpIMi0GYe9eqxtYOEFDO6 YA17h0E08uSy4f8QTbhDAMdpg7PPpcyoorBrJMs78ZT7MqEm3b9Fyx4DwxBVG5Qwj/5dUNHZs sSgSOoxfk+rhyVCoyQE+cp6nWYctjdj76xolvT2yPjfoT9mmdNsVwA5hl4QQ= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37854 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, bug#37854 <37854 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: Hi Lars, > Ah, I see. Then building accurate statistics require downloading all > those (about 21K) URLs. I mean, that's totally doable, but... is that > something that the debbugs.gnu.org infrastructure team would frown upon? For sure. It would block the server, I fear. One could think about creating a snapshot copy of the database, and use the Debbugs Perl modules for further analysis on a separate machine. But I don't know whether this is worth the effort. Best regards, Michael.
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Full text available.Received: (at 37854) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2019 12:02:42 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 24 08:02:41 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35457 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1iNbpB-000187-Jh for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 08:02:41 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:60246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iNbp8-00017y-3x for 37854 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 08:02:40 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iNbp4-000474-FU; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:02:37 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#37854: 27.0.50; debbugs-gnu doesn't return date bugs were closed References: <83lftf43hy.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4zdvgx.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ftjm4o74.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4ymugu.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4yqmf9.fsf@HIDDEN> <878spegqbv.fsf@HIDDEN> <8736fmqk3x.fsf@HIDDEN> <874l02gp0q.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2xep3jm.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tv81f7o1.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <87k18xnmbv.fsf@HIDDEN> <87mudqh7vi.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:02:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mudqh7vi.fsf@HIDDEN> (Michael Albinus's message of "Thu, 24 Oct 2019 10:20:49 +0200") Message-ID: <871rv2fj1h.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> writes: > All messages "bug marked as fixed in version 27.1, ...", as seen in that > example at the bottom, are control messages. One could extend the > "...bugreport.cgi?mboxstat=yes..." URL by another attri [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37854 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, bug#37854 <37854 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> writes: > All messages "bug marked as fixed in version 27.1, ...", as seen in that > example at the bottom, are control messages. One could extend the > "...bugreport.cgi?mboxstat=yes..." URL by another attribute > "mboxcontrol=yes" to download only control messages. They can be > identified by a "X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control" header in the > messages. But this would miss the requests embedded directly in > messages, as seen in > <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=37818#32>, for example. Ah, I see. Then building accurate statistics require downloading all those (about 21K) URLs. I mean, that's totally doable, but... is that something that the debbugs.gnu.org infrastructure team would frown upon? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 37854) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2019 08:21:11 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 24 04:21:11 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35311 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1iNYMp-0008UJ-2l for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 04:21:11 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:41661) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael.albinus@HIDDEN>) id 1iNYMj-0008TU-KT for 37854 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 04:21:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1571905253; bh=wnlRR/e3IUAc4P6931qtDjL/RG9Op1nKEZ2C7+mqvzA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=EWHWw9VXARUmTW/n6vN4XDo6teEDQ2tEWuSfOeWmGiLDoYb9cXoevlM5ZfrXgWglH Z13X7pxEf54TtfP1m0iXf+xRAEs7JIsBIi5xhbgUASrYNJx6LkDzCRsSZW4Uf9Pngd qLIGTvr74sIF7QlSGFIZoyR3Z5oHxezVJZ84YbNs= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.50.254]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mkpap-1hjHvH3mrn-00mGXx; Thu, 24 Oct 2019 10:20:53 +0200 From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#37854: 27.0.50; debbugs-gnu doesn't return date bugs were closed References: <83lftf43hy.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4zdvgx.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ftjm4o74.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4ymugu.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4yqmf9.fsf@HIDDEN> <878spegqbv.fsf@HIDDEN> <8736fmqk3x.fsf@HIDDEN> <874l02gp0q.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2xep3jm.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tv81f7o1.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> <87k18xnmbv.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 10:20:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87k18xnmbv.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:47:32 +0200") Message-ID: <87mudqh7vi.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:qZlFUIiUGBOuARipysG7Y6oepWbSy5UsINTYvr3mbnItMze+qnq U6d8zujbuWqbELumd090yCkb1jGqefJ5rF1gAZVlYVzffESyaQXpF3s+UqKqloRHMwXzhkc 2j9QqMC4ZKaQyelSbNMKmQnZckKmRNpT3ubXtKXzKIg9zj3xLQ7eIOLLoY1xdK0AgRkRl7h 7VZ4kUHNImD6qCXGohJUQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:DgDbhvR9qk8=:t09A41BPRtpBBPSPPavteS zXjrrnDhreY7hcJn1qnYtjnLKHjzoRoIBfqaKqZgNtuhPR4etiGaJ2HVD0A7COXjPs3Fvhxyu 9EloWaJWJyt0f7tlnXgIbUj1nc7r5IgBF18B1P62Qa2sbWi3LPHkI2OkD1ImZJRE8sw/ZNKAn pe8L2tRKAYKeHCUi3hUlmkuR4cPA7h1ydtPgPgVlSr4TEVktDDv+/wb5oMujVJIyNQ1WF+IQt i3pUqbkfVohuUppu5hayCglNNbhHakQEXhI7KIiGih9BbSlqe3/naUfpqM9Q+GrR5X+fo5q+U fc/7nBtZzZLAS+rFd2upzBg0h8eDA1/2F0AofwX8+Vtx6BjYUdnGNoPp4/B9ZKqMXvv56b6+N rwLBJlLRecdSDNlwTHCnFQeSXdQElyMRNqmI29zG4dFWSE4fZp9rvHFb58M3M0U7cPrVrA1Np 2OqnKc9Bg22XUTFyQku/ueI2qUSEvPVOBRJNPoY3V2saIY2tp0h2TPe4ZvB8NQvwSfxaJhfL+ m7bqtqpxrqMyI3J5sSYSWzTfEm1jkRZj5c5N0xqDXq0mIZVDDV2LPSpQp0e+pbulB2yc0HeSx 8AwPdxxV3ci5VHQAnxg5FD6MOLF6L8HNMqwBUEQXIszdgj3LY87eu6IzSiLgoqNJoNl15vofD O5dMc8QaqofYQrdu7raqyPH2HXlUV+KgLCpo3MRrV0J7a7SOxjoFsCMYrQj8IADWnb008iDMz qeXJn/rAykpyclkcrvSjIY5Hab3aXMp04746CbufCxoHqTlfpHy7LbveYScUpDF9vXoEds7SO W1XCYwOH8PB7Ub0Pbw/cHBgUSeKq39XlzUEW47+t3eJt8p5PNeGeAqRlSh2JcKl2kn+j+nHfl NSiW56gpGw/Z5OdOIqhiBJqUFVCqnyzLWW4UA+DYCvKf4VLfdcwscEeJ140VeA5hAxuIHXyVA 6GmHTrF2CU8EZuRGrAit7YFbZ9h+6FD49kmSglNb8cS7+DmCpawpU/Vxo2HYmxRELWYjuQVGp MSnpWfNoNXzriYIOmrMwNVbkYZm4L9Mc3oGBe03gyeZNW0HuaRudgegjFt5OlmkEwyVDZA4dR c4ntjmTE374xZDSy90X57cA5PO0i2TgpR4Q9ed/aibB2Nhfm9CGqvTMSy7qzT64Dyd1R4msrr VTYuLElRdtNEnBcI3FPPjZOFtXyC76i3D1jUehG3aqIICC/1h9THNMbHWMlTlRMaHYBywhyqf /+qV/OcEPcp87UJ1hj0ldNtvSSH/veoIebL61IQLBbtzuLghBHQlHxTJbyNM= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37854 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, bug#37854 <37854 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: Hi Lars, > Would it be possible to include the entire change history in the SOAP > data? That is, the timestamps when tags/severities are added/removed? > That is, is there a "log" of changes applied to a bug that can be > output? If there was, that'd also fix the "closed" date handling > problem. Such history cannot be retrieved from the database I fear. So it cannot be provided by the SOAP interface. What you see in the bug reports logs web pages are all the messages, received for a given bug. They are not downloaded by SOAP, but by their URL like <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?mboxstat=yes;bug=37818>. This is the counterpart to what is shown via <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=37818>. All messages "bug marked as fixed in version 27.1, ...", as seen in that example at the bottom, are control messages. One could extend the "...bugreport.cgi?mboxstat=yes..." URL by another attribute "mboxcontrol=yes" to download only control messages. They can be identified by a "X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control" header in the messages. But this would miss the requests embedded directly in messages, as seen in <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=37818#32>, for example. Best regards, Michael.
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Full text available.Received: (at 37854) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2019 09:47:40 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 22 05:47:40 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58254 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1iMqlP-0006ES-Sq for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 05:47:40 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:37398) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iMqlM-0006EF-Mt for 37854 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 05:47:37 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iMqlI-0003Lh-Ng; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:47:35 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#37854: 27.0.50; debbugs-gnu doesn't return date bugs were closed References: <83lftf43hy.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4zdvgx.fsf@HIDDEN> <83ftjm4o74.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4ymugu.fsf@HIDDEN> <877e4yqmf9.fsf@HIDDEN> <878spegqbv.fsf@HIDDEN> <8736fmqk3x.fsf@HIDDEN> <874l02gp0q.fsf@HIDDEN> <87y2xep3jm.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tv81f7o1.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:47:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87tv81f7o1.fsf_-_@HIDDEN> (Michael Albinus's message of "Tue, 22 Oct 2019 11:31:26 +0200") Message-ID: <87k18xnmbv.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> writes: > Well, it looks like this close date is not an attribute of the bug, but > something the database keeps internal for countdown of the 28 days, > until the bug will be archived. Once archived, this in [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 37854 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, bug#37854 <37854 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> writes: > Well, it looks like this close date is not an attribute of the bug, but > something the database keeps internal for countdown of the 28 days, > until the bug will be archived. Once archived, this information doesn't > seem to be available anymore. Right. I was also wondering why the charts I made estimate the number of tags (like "moreinfo"/"patch") too high, but of course I only have what the data look like now. So while my charts say that there were 200 open "moreinfo" in, say, December 2018, there weren't that many. A bug report that got that tag in later, and was closed later, will be counted as having had that tag back then. Would it be possible to include the entire change history in the SOAP data? That is, the timestamps when tags/severities are added/removed? That is, is there a "log" of changes applied to a bug that can be output? If there was, that'd also fix the "closed" date handling problem. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Is there a separate date for the "close" > action somewhere in the database? > > For instance, > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=18688 > > was closed without being marked as "fixed". Well, it looks like this close date is not an attribute of the bug, but something the database keeps internal for countdown of the 28 days, until the bug will be archived. Once archived, this information doesn't seem to be available anymore. Anyway, I've sent a request to <https://bugs.debian.org/942843>. Best regards, Michael.
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2019 17:12:20 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 21 13:12:19 2019 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57769 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1iMbEB-00081y-IY for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:12:19 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:46209) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iMbEA-00081p-9Y for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:12:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43285) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iMbE7-00084s-QX for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:12:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iMbE6-0007NX-Lk for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:12:15 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:43034) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iMbE6-0007Mn-En for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:12:14 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1iMbE2-0002Z9-32 for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:12:12 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 27.0.50; debbugs-gnu doesn't return date bugs were closed Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:12:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87tv82oweu.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 80.91.231.51 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Apparently somewhere in the database, debbugs knows the date a bug was closed: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=18688 https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=18691 Unless those pages are statically generated and just appended to, as in a log? I assumed they were generated on-the-fly from the data in the database. There's two data points that would be interesting: The "closed" date, and the "fixed" date, which may be different. The problem is that bugs may be updated after they're closed (for instance when they are archived, but also by other stuff), which makes it difficult to do accurate statistics about response time and the like. I mean, you can do statistics that are probably "good enough", but it's kinda not very satisfying when you know there's methodological errors there. In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 91, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.5) of 2019-10-20 built on marnie Repository revision: 78cb3791fa11c95756ee3917c63cfea774f128a2 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12004000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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