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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 19.01.2020 19:43, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Is it? Then perhaps the name of the system on which Emacs was built, > and the configuration used to build it are also private? If the default contents of the bug report email are short enough, it should be easy for the user to scan and decide whether they want to remove some extra info manually. 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Then perhaps the name of the system on which Emacs was built, > and the configuration used to build it are also private? If the default contents of the bug report email are short enough, it should be easy for the user to scan and decide whether they want to remove some extra info manually.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#39185; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 39185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2020 19:24:43 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 19 14:24:43 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43908 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1itGBf-0001il-08 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 14:24:43 -0500 Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:39174) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1itGBc-0001iW-Gp for 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 14:24:41 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id 00JJOEDi048753; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:24:35 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=Piy3tdMEqY/lJrlgwyOngwUAAASmVUkhiftBJynAiDE=; b=iD5XWrzkkKMWJVoyp2QSC5MTblXRc5Q3GK6XglIxM7QSjat0kcaXuitTZy8qpRdRDabA qIWG16LTRt2p/MHxGbG1YutDiv0/WVxnpvl91pwbEEbqJRGcrWtaNm+P4de6FA78uiAj yY6veADBNvTaYHsJ9Gx2Eeb5MC0/Uvpx3KBw53eHpLFCbu//+EqMKatIVEkH3dEELv2v RC0lfLCmAUioc+xckRybfGD8VYuarjWlwwMHvcCZIueUF7+czCSWdEJp4abAcL5c2M93 kNttp3YsO1/BiMupY/xIC3BG6KsFkdi9LSgfAfcK6mTOiA6SLMLfOuaz0PCQl0vldsEr 5Q== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2xktnquxwk-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:24:34 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id 00JJO2ws150776; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:24:34 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2xmc63akhj-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:24:34 +0000 Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 00JJOX1k028202; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:24:33 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <422e79bb-fef0-40af-a61d-f4e3d1093eb9@default> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:24:32 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#39185: [PATCH] Don't include section "Recent messages" in bug reports References: <87y2u4uxk5.fsf@HIDDEN> <7c4de596-6e2e-48e9-a187-e16a36c59176@default> <87k15ouq36.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87k15ouq36.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4954.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9505 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-2001190168 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9505 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-2001190168 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39185 Cc: 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > >> Does anyone object to installing the below patch on master? > > > > I do. What if a user wants to include that info in a > > particular bug report, e.g., where it's relevant? > > Why not make it easy for a user to include it, even > > if by default it's excluded? >=20 > I don't think that feature request should stop us from moving ahead > with this potentially serious privacy issue. It's not about that. It's not about preventing you from avoiding such privacy problems. It's all about getting those fixed now. And doing it right, in a flexible way that covers everything that could - by users' own determinations - be a privacy issue. > If someone later wants to re-add an option to include messages, and > configure the bug reports along the lines you suggest, they are free > to work on that. That's the wrong way to deal with this issue, IMO. It's just punting - kicking the can down the road. And it's not as if a general solution is somehow difficult to conceive or hard to implement. Not at all. I really don't understand the myopia that narrows the focus to trying to decide what is _the_ potentially private info, and then wants to hard-code its exclusion.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#39185; Package emacs.
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Then perhaps the name of the system on which Emacs was > built, > >> and the configuration used to build it are also private? > > > > It's possible, but it sounds unlikely. That it's private which > servers > > you're talking to is pretty likely, though. >=20 > In the messages buffer, file names, buffer names and email addresses > are some of the concerning examples of private data I've seen. We > also have to consider that we have no control over what kind of > information third party or user code puts there. Yes. And as I said, the wrong approach, I think, is for Emacs dev to make a once-and-for-all, fits-all-sizes judgment as to what is or could be sensitive. Instead, we should give users themselves a simple way to express their own preferences. Let them (easily) decide what is or could be sensitive. Let them decide what information they want to send. And let them do that easily, (1) by configuring the reporting profile they want by default, and (2) by giving them commands/keys to add or remove particular parts.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#39185; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 39185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2020 17:11:02 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 19 12:11:02 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43812 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1itE6I-0002lM-8y for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:11:02 -0500 Received: from ted.gofardesign.uk ([67.225.143.91]:34078) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <stefan@HIDDEN>) id 1itE6G-0002ks-PY for 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:11:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ybAroStT6PoIfRkOIlKbQ1jNreBnv/IYyC2WLh5iEQU=; b=CE0aGR0MGUE8EicCLsa7a1j0ff aMUyKRiK3by5CIdTfMY4/VAVa46wsr6AnlX6mQdljHKse7jZV4IGYlR/Z2yxiIsytvT06CTXa8N2l ywahX69m75AF1Q2YO1B0WJa8YS3t9t8SWUEnBlQiV8bqIWDWEJGp+oqMWKAzbxPbxXaiAiIsjXj78 5WsmnI6KShqkN+ZhUyve99cM8b9Yp4OAqea9XxNavU2vsvtgj3OQZWpXweseCqG5NjfhsUjt7LSE7 ySTrnJkqOjY8iTOPluUGuby/1KGjVbDMG2LpOh7JbcMqxFmVANXV2yO/3uF4hGpZIPY6Qqqi+DhJa igr2CeVQ==; Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:37994 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <stefan@HIDDEN>) id 1itE6A-000SPk-Vp; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 12:10:55 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#39185: [PATCH] Don't include section "Recent messages" in bug reports In-Reply-To: <87blqzjsvj.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 19 Jan 2020 17:47:12 +0100") References: <87y2u4uxk5.fsf@HIDDEN> <7c4de596-6e2e-48e9-a187-e16a36c59176@default> <87k15ouq36.fsf@HIDDEN> <83blqzzdgn.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tv4rtqj2.fsf@HIDDEN> <83zhejxx80.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ftgbjuqa.fsf@HIDDEN> <83sgkbxupj.fsf@HIDDEN> <87blqzjsvj.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 18:10:52 +0100 Message-ID: <87r1zvtlr7.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@HIDDEN X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@HIDDEN X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39185 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: >> Is it? Then perhaps the name of the system on which Emacs was built, >> and the configuration used to build it are also private? > > It's possible, but it sounds unlikely. That it's private which servers > you're talking to is pretty likely, though. In the messages buffer, file names, buffer names and email addresses are some of the concerning examples of private data I've seen. We also have to consider that we have no control over what kind of information third party or user code puts there. Best regards, Stefan Kangas
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#39185; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 39185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2020 16:47:24 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 19 11:47:24 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43789 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1itDjQ-0002BT-3w for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:47:24 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44872) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1itDjN-0002BB-PB for 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:47:22 -0500 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1itDjF-0004uQ-1s; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 17:47:15 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#39185: [PATCH] Don't include section "Recent messages" in bug reports References: <87y2u4uxk5.fsf@HIDDEN> <7c4de596-6e2e-48e9-a187-e16a36c59176@default> <87k15ouq36.fsf@HIDDEN> <83blqzzdgn.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tv4rtqj2.fsf@HIDDEN> <83zhejxx80.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ftgbjuqa.fsf@HIDDEN> <83sgkbxupj.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 17:47:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83sgkbxupj.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 19 Jan 2020 18:43:52 +0200") Message-ID: <87blqzjsvj.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > Is it? Then perhaps the name of the system on which Emacs was built, > and the configuration used to build it are also private? It's possible, but it sounds unlikely. That it's private which servers you're talking to is pretty likely, though. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: gnu.org] -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39185 Cc: 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > Is it? Then perhaps the name of the system on which Emacs was built, > and the configuration used to build it are also private? It's possible, but it sounds unlikely. That it's private which servers you're talking to is pretty likely, though. And we've already established that we, as bug processors, have no use for the data (you thought is was already gone?), it seems odd to spend a lot of time making the *Messages* buffer less useful. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#39185; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#39185; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 39185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2020 16:07:21 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 19 11:07:21 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43771 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1itD6f-0001Fx-7l for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:07:21 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44480) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1itD6d-0001Fl-I6 for 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 11:07:20 -0500 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1itD6T-0004Zm-QU; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 17:07:12 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#39185: [PATCH] Don't include section "Recent messages" in bug reports References: <87y2u4uxk5.fsf@HIDDEN> <7c4de596-6e2e-48e9-a187-e16a36c59176@default> <87k15ouq36.fsf@HIDDEN> <83blqzzdgn.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tv4rtqj2.fsf@HIDDEN> <83zhejxx80.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 17:07:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83zhejxx80.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 19 Jan 2020 17:49:35 +0200") Message-ID: <87ftgbjuqa.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > I'm not sure I understand what is the general case here. Each part of > the report that could potentially disclose private information shall > be identified and dealt with. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: gnus.org] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39185 Cc: 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > I'm not sure I understand what is the general case here. Each part of > the report that could potentially disclose private information shall > be identified and dealt with. There's little in the *Messages* buffer that isn't potentially private. For instance, here's the last two lines of mine: nnimap quimby.gnus.org splitting mail...done nnimap read 6k from quimby.gnus.org That could be private information. It rather sounds like you're asking us to get rid of the *Messages* buffer altogether. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#39185; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 39185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2020 15:49:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 19 10:49:38 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43767 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1itCpW-0000qL-Jq for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:49:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37459) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1itCpU-0000q9-QQ for 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:49:37 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36955) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1itCpP-0001ZB-Al; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:49:31 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2215 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1itCpO-0003f4-Mv; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:49:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 17:49:35 +0200 Message-Id: <83zhejxx80.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <87tv4rtqj2.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 19 Jan 2020 16:27:45 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#39185: [PATCH] Don't include section "Recent messages" in bug reports References: <87y2u4uxk5.fsf@HIDDEN> <7c4de596-6e2e-48e9-a187-e16a36c59176@default> <87k15ouq36.fsf@HIDDEN> <83blqzzdgn.fsf@HIDDEN> <87tv4rtqj2.fsf@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39185 Cc: 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> > Cc: 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@HIDDEN > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 16:27:45 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > > The right way of dealing with these issues is to hide the parts which > > could breach the privacy by converting the characters there into > > something like "xxx" or "***", and leave the rest of the information > > intact. > > How would you propose to do that in the general case? I'm not sure I understand what is the general case here. Each part of the report that could potentially disclose private information shall be identified and dealt with.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#39185; Package emacs.
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Full text available.Received: (at 39185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2020 15:13:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 19 10:13:30 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43736 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1itCGY-0004QF-84 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:13:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35333) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1itCGX-0004Px-1k for 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:13:29 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36733) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1itCGR-00071k-MV; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:13:23 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3791 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1itCGR-0006je-2w; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:13:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 17:13:28 +0200 Message-Id: <83blqzzdgn.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> In-reply-to: <87k15ouq36.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Stefan Kangas on Sun, 19 Jan 2020 03:39:41 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#39185: [PATCH] Don't include section "Recent messages" in bug reports References: <87y2u4uxk5.fsf@HIDDEN> <7c4de596-6e2e-48e9-a187-e16a36c59176@default> <87k15ouq36.fsf@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39185 Cc: 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 03:39:41 +0100 > Cc: 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > I don't think that feature request should stop us from moving ahead > with this potentially serious privacy issue. <rant> The right way of dealing with these issues is to hide the parts which could breach the privacy by converting the characters there into something like "xxx" or "***", and leave the rest of the information intact. Instead, we consistently take the easy way out by removing everything, and thus make the Emacs bug reports less and less useful for investigating the problems. Too bad. </rant>
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Full text available.Received: (at 39185) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2020 02:21:16 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 18 21:21:16 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42548 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1it0DE-0004kw-0U for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 21:21:16 -0500 Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:38392) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1it0DB-0004ki-Ia for 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2020 21:21:14 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id 00J2KT1l002934; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 02:21:07 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=mrtLpbGlBf0J/DN/SivMlZVyKG+Bgl1ZISr5feEIQgE=; b=UyE0ySpW7YgcRJU6xTccDKMcwI3+WAro/kyJaAOeLDS/LH4coyQizMd33SGUnR5qbYct mhRf1Dtp8yTFMiz14UeISnLKCkK0nT2FlbovvHTLzgKFggyked7O5t8mMDo3AC+CX6VA z6wNlZiCRnOFaKJwhjVy+T4nNuholMKA780wHgqLhHJu03BOE398cdhk6gSr5OaUnM4O /8K9STcUKsx8pVmfuDoUo2OD0t7N/LlpHOysdti3Z7ncZGY3bmhX78wXITGr8hZ9A7mE HXGf+Lno6y1Un85wS4j4YaqteYE3J0pdoFbtEXjpDRqNRMpOXeqQmAC21KuMnmwF3g40 rQ== Received: from userp3030.oracle.com (userp3030.oracle.com [156.151.31.80]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2xktnqt5en-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 19 Jan 2020 02:21:07 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id 00J2JAaD145118; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 02:21:07 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2xmbg65118-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 19 Jan 2020 02:21:07 +0000 Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 00J2L6AM001225; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 02:21:06 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <7c4de596-6e2e-48e9-a187-e16a36c59176@default> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 18:21:05 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN>, 39185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#39185: [PATCH] Don't include section "Recent messages" in bug reports References: <87y2u4uxk5.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87y2u4uxk5.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4954.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9504 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-2001190016 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9504 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-2001190016 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 39185 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Does anyone object to installing the below patch on master? I do. What if a user wants to include that info in a particular bug report, e.g., where it's relevant? Why not make it easy for a user to include it, even if by default it's excluded? As I made clear in the thread you cite: It's not just about "Recent messages". It's about anything we automatically insert into the report, which a user might not pay attention to, or even if she does, which she might not want to send. Let users decide. A simple option takes care of this. And separating the parts of the code that insert each different part of the automatic info means that we can also give users commands to insert any of them as one-offs, to override their chosen default preferred behavior. I see no reason why we wouldn't want to let users decide, in this regard - whether it's about privacy or any other reason a user might have for her preference. What's the difficulty or downside to doing this? I agree with not including recent messages by default. My suggestion is to make it easy for a user to: 1. Include/exclude any of the various parts that we currently exclude, by setting their own preferred default behavior. 2. Make it easy for a user to include/exclude any such parts for any given bug report, i.e., to include/exclude something different from what they choose as their default preference. Anything you do in a hard-coded way makes it more difficult for users. It's good for Emacs to remove recent messages _by default_. It's better to go further and make it easy for users to get the behavior they want - generally and for any given message. And it's simple to do. And it makes the Emacs code more modular - separate pieces handled separately. I don't see a downside, and AFAICT none was shown. I don't claim that the code I use for this, or what I suggest as the approach, is the only good one. I do think we can easily, and should, do better than just remove recent messages.
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Does anyone object to installing the below patch on master?
See here for background:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-11/msg01099.html
Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
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From 74d5b879b42a7f3084910eda74b2b733ebe8984a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:30:30 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Don't include section "Recent messages" in bug reports
* lisp/mail/emacsbug.el (report-emacs-bug): Don't include "Recent
messages" since it has privacy implications.
Problem reported by Lars Ingebrigtsen in:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-11/msg01099.html
---
lisp/mail/emacsbug.el | 12 ------------
1 file changed, 12 deletions(-)
diff --git a/lisp/mail/emacsbug.el b/lisp/mail/emacsbug.el
index fea7619b50..e4534746dd 100644
--- a/lisp/mail/emacsbug.el
+++ b/lisp/mail/emacsbug.el
@@ -320,18 +320,6 @@ report-emacs-bug
(let ((os (ignore-errors (report-emacs-bug--os-description))))
(if (stringp os)
(insert "System Description: " os "\n\n")))
- (let ((message-buf (get-buffer "*Messages*")))
- (if message-buf
- (let (beg-pos
- (end-pos message-end-point))
- (with-current-buffer message-buf
- (goto-char end-pos)
- (forward-line -10)
- (setq beg-pos (point)))
- (terpri (current-buffer) t)
- (insert "Recent messages:\n")
- (insert-buffer-substring message-buf beg-pos end-pos))))
- (insert "\n")
(when (and system-configuration-options
(not (equal system-configuration-options "")))
(insert "Configured using:\n 'configure "
--
2.20.1
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