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Le 6 f=C3=A9vrier 2020 15:39:36 GMT-05:00, "Scott C=2E MacCallum via Bug re=
ports for GNU Guix" <bug-guix@gnu=2Eorg> a =C3=A9crit :
>After the installation of all the available desktop environments, in
>Openbox from the Accessories menu Calculator does not load=2E
>
>Scott
>scmguru - irc=2Efreenode=2Enet
>
>Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail=2Ecom) Secure Email=2E

To be fair, if you installed only the openbox environment, none of the ite=
ms in the menu would work=2E However, this is not a guix-specific bug, and =
as an openbox user, I don't expect to have all of these items available=2E =
The menu is static and the same in all distros=2E You're supposed to config=
ure it yourself, which makes it not very user friendly, but that's how it w=
orks=2E

I don't really see how to improve the situation, do you have a suggestion?

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Le 6 f=C3=A9vrier 2020 16:12:38 GMT-05:00, "Scott C=2E MacCallum" <smaccall=
um@protonmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :

Please make sure to keep debbugs in CC :)

>> To be fair, if you installed only the openbox environment, none of
>>the items in the menu would work
>
>I didn't install just an Openbox environment, I installed all of the
>available desktop environments=2E

I understand, and the other environments brought other packages with them,=
 which made some of the menu items work=2E

>
>>However, this is not a guix-specific bug, and as an openbox user, I
>>don't expect to have all of these items available=2E
>
>Perhaps it's not an Guix-specific bug but that's certainly not the case
>with other distros=2E It was my understanding that Guix wanted to reach
>the widest audience possible, including those not technically inclined=2E

OK, though I certainly got locked out of my initial installation on arch l=
inux because I forgot to add xterm for instance, and I'm sure all of these =
items don't work ootb on debian or other distros=2E

Maybe having openbox as an initial choice in the installer is a bad idea, =
or the installer could add these packages=2E We could also change the openb=
ox package to restrict the quantity of default menu entries to some minimum=
=2E

I'd like to close your other bugs (39469 to 39474) as I think they all hav=
e the same root cause=2E I'll rename this one Do you agree?

>
>> I don't really see how to improve the situation, do you have a
>>suggestion?
>
>I actually don't use Openbox as my default desktop environment=2E I was
>thinking about others=2E
>
>Scott
>scmguru - irc=2Efreenode=2Enet
>
>Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email=2E
>
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>On Thursday, February 6, 2020 4:03 PM, Julien Lepiller
><julien@lepiller=2Eeu> wrote:
>
>> Le 6 f=C3=A9vrier 2020 15:39:36 GMT-05:00, "Scott C=2E MacCallum via Bu=
g
>reports for GNU Guix" bug-guix@gnu=2Eorg a =C3=A9crit :
>>
>> > After the installation of all the available desktop environments,
>in
>> > Openbox from the Accessories menu Calculator does not load=2E
>> > Scott
>> > scmguru - irc=2Efreenode=2Enet
>> > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email=2E
>>
>> To be fair, if you installed only the openbox environment, none of
>the items in the menu would work=2E However, this is not a guix-specific
>bug, and as an openbox user, I don't expect to have all of these items
>available=2E The menu is static and the same in all distros=2E You're
>supposed to configure it yourself, which makes it not very user
>friendly, but that's how it works=2E
>>
>> I don't really see how to improve the situation, do you have a
>suggestion?

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"I'd like to close your other bugs (39469 to 39474) as I think they all hav=
e the same root cause. I'll rename this one Do you agree?"

I agree. And I'll stop submitting bugs for the other broken menu items. :)

Scott
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On Thursday, February 6, 2020 4:23 PM, Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN>=
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> Le 6 f=C3=A9vrier 2020 16:12:38 GMT-05:00, "Scott C. MacCallum" smaccallu=
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>
> Please make sure to keep debbugs in CC :)
>
> > > To be fair, if you installed only the openbox environment, none of
> > > the items in the menu would work
> >
> > I didn't install just an Openbox environment, I installed all of the
> > available desktop environments.
>
> I understand, and the other environments brought other packages with them=
, which made some of the menu items work.
>
> > > However, this is not a guix-specific bug, and as an openbox user, I
> > > don't expect to have all of these items available.
> >
> > Perhaps it's not an Guix-specific bug but that's certainly not the case
> > with other distros. It was my understanding that Guix wanted to reach
> > the widest audience possible, including those not technically inclined.
>
> OK, though I certainly got locked out of my initial installation on arch =
linux because I forgot to add xterm for instance, and I'm sure all of these=
 items don't work ootb on debian or other distros.
>
> Maybe having openbox as an initial choice in the installer is a bad idea,=
 or the installer could add these packages. We could also change the openbo=
x package to restrict the quantity of default menu entries to some minimum.
>
> I'd like to close your other bugs (39469 to 39474) as I think they all ha=
ve the same root cause. I'll rename this one Do you agree?
>
> > > I don't really see how to improve the situation, do you have a
> > > suggestion?
> >
> > I actually don't use Openbox as my default desktop environment. I was
> > thinking about others.
> > Scott
> > scmguru - irc.freenode.net
> > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
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> > On Thursday, February 6, 2020 4:03 PM, Julien Lepiller
> > julien@HIDDEN wrote:
> >
> > > Le 6 f=C3=A9vrier 2020 15:39:36 GMT-05:00, "Scott C. MacCallum via Bu=
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> > > reports for GNU Guix" bug-guix@HIDDEN a =C3=A9crit :
> > >
> > > > After the installation of all the available desktop environments,
> > > > in
> > >
> > > > Openbox from the Accessories menu Calculator does not load.
> > > > Scott
> > > > scmguru - irc.freenode.net
> > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> > >
> > > To be fair, if you installed only the openbox environment, none of
> > > the items in the menu would work. However, this is not a guix-specifi=
c
> > > bug, and as an openbox user, I don't expect to have all of these item=
s
> > > available. The menu is static and the same in all distros. You're
> > > supposed to configure it yourself, which makes it not very user
> > > friendly, but that's how it works.
> > > I don't really see how to improve the situation, do you have a
> > > suggestion?

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retitle 39468 Openbox - default menu has broken items after first install
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