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26.3; Packaging system: Package documentation in the *Help* buffer

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From: dieter <at> duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm)
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 26.3; Packaging system: Package documentation in the *Help* buffer
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 21:59:11 +0100

Hello Emacs

The Elisp manual (GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+
Version 3.22.30) of 2019-12-14) states that a README file in the content
directory of a package will be used as a package description (C-h P).

Please check

  (info "(elisp) Multi-file Packages").

Yet this isn't working!  By looking at other packages It seems that
there must be a file `PACKAGE-NAME-readme.txt' BELOW the content
directory to get a description in the package help.

Thanks for resolving this issue


        Dieter



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-- 
Best wishes
H. Dieter Wilhelm
Zwingenberg, Germany

Message #8 received at 39609 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: dieter <at> duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm)
Cc: 39609 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#39609: 26.3; Packaging system: Package documentation in the
 *Help* buffer
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:59:12 +0100

dieter <at> duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm) writes:

> The Elisp manual (GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+
> Version 3.22.30) of 2019-12-14) states that a README file in the content
> directory of a package will be used as a package description (C-h P).
>
> Please check
>
>   (info "(elisp) Multi-file Packages").
>
> Yet this isn't working!  By looking at other packages It seems that
> there must be a file `PACKAGE-NAME-readme.txt' BELOW the content
> directory to get a description in the package help.

I tried `C-h P ada-mode RET' and got a *Help* buffer that included the
README file for the ada-mode package, so I seem to be unable to
reproduce this bug.

Do you have a precise recipe to reproduce it, starting from "emacs -Q"?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #13 received at 39609 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter <at> duenenhof-wilhelm.de>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 39609 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#39609: 26.3; Packaging system: Package documentation in the
 *Help* buffer
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 22:19:04 +0100

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

Hello Lars

thank you for looking into this!

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> dieter <at> duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm) writes:
>
>> The Elisp manual (GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+
>> Version 3.22.30) of 2019-12-14) states that a README file in the content
>> directory of a package will be used as a package description (C-h P).
>>
>> Please check
>>
>>   (info "(elisp) Multi-file Packages").
>>
>> Yet this isn't working!  By looking at other packages It seems that
>> there must be a file `PACKAGE-NAME-readme.txt' BELOW the content
>> directory to get a description in the package help.

> I tried `C-h P ada-mode RET' and got a *Help* buffer that included the
> README file for the ada-mode package, so I seem to be unable to
> reproduce this bug.

> Do you have a precise recipe to reproduce it, starting from "emacs -Q"?

I prepared a multi-file package for you.  Under Emacs 26.3 or earlier
you won't see any "long description" at all (unless you include a
PACKAGE-NAME-readme.txt in the package archive).  Under 27.1 it shows
now the ;;; Commentary: section of the PACKAGE-NAME.el file.  But NOT
the content of the accompanying README!

Please unpack the archive inform-1.4.tar into an empty DIRECTORY and
install the package interactively with package-install-file pointing to
the DIRECTORY.

Thank you for your help

       Dieter

[inform-1.4.tar (application/x-tar, attachment)]

[Message part 3 (text/plain, inline)]

-- 
Best wishes
H. Dieter Wilhelm
Zwingenberg, Germany

Message #16 received at 39609 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter <at> duenenhof-wilhelm.de>
Cc: 39609 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#39609: 26.3; Packaging system: Package documentation in the
 *Help* buffer
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:04:38 +0100

"H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter <at> duenenhof-wilhelm.de> writes:

>> Do you have a precise recipe to reproduce it, starting from "emacs -Q"?
>
> I prepared a multi-file package for you.  Under Emacs 26.3 or earlier
> you won't see any "long description" at all (unless you include a
> PACKAGE-NAME-readme.txt in the package archive).  Under 27.1 it shows
> now the ;;; Commentary: section of the PACKAGE-NAME.el file.  But NOT
> the content of the accompanying README!

The package didn't really clarify anything.

Could you instead give a precise recipe to reproduce the bug, starting
from "emacs -Q"? 

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #19 received at 39609 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter <at> duenenhof-wilhelm.de>
Cc: 39609 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#39609: 26.3; Packaging system: Package documentation in the
 *Help* buffer
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:50:33 +0100

(Please keep the debbugs address in the Cc's -- otherwise the message
won't reach the bug tracker.)

"H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter <at> duenenhof-wilhelm.de> writes:

> I'm sorry I should have made it clear that the problem occurs most
> clearly for packages which are not installed from Gnu Elpa or other
> package archives.  After installing from a package archive the
> documentation is not taken out of the package README, despite the Elisp
> documentation in (elisp) Multi-file Packages.
>
> So please check this with Emacs- Q (possibly in a sandboxed
> environment), do (package-initialize) and install the attached package.
> To that end please extract the tar archive to a DIRECTORY and M-x
> package-install-file DIRECTORY.  Then you'll see that the content of C-h
> P inform is not the content of the package's README.  For Emacs-26.3
> you'll see no documentation at all and for Emacs-27.1 you'll see
> inform.el's ;;; Commentary section.
>
> Thank you
>
>         Dieter
>
> PS: The inform package is now available via Melpa, just in case...

OK, so the test case is

emacs -Q
M-x list-packages
then install "inform" from Melpa
And then

C-h P inform RET

?

Message #22 received at 39609 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter <at> duenenhof-wilhelm.de>
Cc: 39609 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#39609: 26.3; Packaging system: Package documentation in the
 *Help* buffer
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 17:02:39 +0100

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> OK, so the test case is
>
> emacs -Q
> M-x list-packages
> then install "inform" from Melpa
> And then
>
> C-h P inform RET
>
> ?

More information was requested, but no response was given within a
month, so I'm closing this bug report.  If further progress can be made,
please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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