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Trying to customize the ispell choices buffer via display-buffer-alist has no effect

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Package: emacs; Reported by: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck@HIDDEN>; dated Thu, 26 Mar 2020 14:57:01 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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Subject: Re: bug#40238: Trying to customize the ispell choices buffer via
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 > This I dont=E2=80=99 know. I just changed the code, in ispell.el, line=
s 2320 and 2326, from
 >
 > 		   ((=3D char ?q)
 > 		    (if (y-or-n-p "Really kill Ispell process? ")
 > 			(progn
 > 			  (ispell-kill-ispell t) ; terminate process.
 > 			  (setq ispell-quit (or (not ispell-checking-message)
 > 						(point))
 > 				ispell-pdict-modified-p nil))
 > 		      t))		; continue if they don't quit.
 >
 > into
 >
 > 		   ((=3D char ?q)
 > 		    ;; (if (y-or-n-p "Really kill Ispell process? ")
 > 			(progn
 > 			  (ispell-kill-ispell t) ; terminate process.
 > 			  (setq ispell-quit (or (not ispell-checking-message)
 > 						(point))
 > 				ispell-pdict-modified-p nil))
 > 			;; t)
 > 		   )		; continue if they don't quit.

We could reserve "Q" for killing Ispell without asking questions.  But I
have no idea of the ispell mnemonics and already find "q" for killing
and "X" for suspending (which never suspends anything here IIUC) quite
confusing.  Maybe an ispell expert can help us.

martin





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> Am 27.03.2020 um 10:02 schrieb martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> > The point is that =E2=80=9Cq=E2=80=9D kills the entire (external) =
ispell process,
> > while =E2=80=9Cx=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9CC-g=E2=80=9D do not. But I =
found the relevant code in ispell.el,
> > and it was an easy matter to change it so that =E2=80=9Cq=E2=80=9D =
does the job
> > without asking y-or-n.
>=20
> But this part of the quit behavior is not related to whether you =
display
> the choices on the same or another frame.  Right?


This I dont=E2=80=99 know. I just changed the code, in ispell.el, lines =
2320 and 2326, from

		   ((=3D char ?q)
		    (if (y-or-n-p "Really kill Ispell process? ")
			(progn
			  (ispell-kill-ispell t) ; terminate process.
			  (setq ispell-quit (or (not =
ispell-checking-message)
						(point))
				ispell-pdict-modified-p nil))
		      t))		; continue if they don't quit.

into

		   ((=3D char ?q)
		    ;; (if (y-or-n-p "Really kill Ispell process? ")
			(progn
			  (ispell-kill-ispell t) ; terminate process.
			  (setq ispell-quit (or (not =
ispell-checking-message)
						(point))
				ispell-pdict-modified-p nil))
			;; t)
		   )		; continue if they don't quit.


Konrad

>=20
> martin
>=20





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 > The point is that =E2=80=9Cq=E2=80=9D kills the entire (external) ispe=
ll process,
 > while =E2=80=9Cx=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9CC-g=E2=80=9D do not. But I found=
 the relevant code in ispell.el,
 > and it was an easy matter to change it so that =E2=80=9Cq=E2=80=9D doe=
s the job
 > without asking y-or-n.

But this part of the quit behavior is not related to whether you display
the choices on the same or another frame.  Right?

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The point is that =E2=80=9Cq=E2=80=9D kills the entire (external) ispell =
process, while =E2=80=9Cx=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9CC-g=E2=80=9D  do not. But =
I found the relevant code in ispell.el, and it was an easy matter to =
change it so that =E2=80=9Cq=E2=80=9D does the job without asking =
y-or-n.

Konrad

> Am 26.03.2020 um 19:45 schrieb martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> > I see. So, is there a customization, or some code, which gives, only
> > for the ispell problem, an unconditional kill rather than a =
y-or-n-p?
>=20
> What is the "ispell problem"?  Does typing "x" or C-g not do what you
> want?  My knowledge of ispell.el is limited to the occasional use of =
M-$
> quitting via C-g.
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I see. So, is there a customization, or some code, which gives, only for =
the ispell problem, an unconditional kill rather than a y-or-n-p?

> Am 26.03.2020 um 18:36 schrieb martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> > Basically this works fine. However, when I type =E2=80=98x=E2=80=99 =
to exit ispell,
> > the buffer which was spelled appears a second time in the frame that
> > showed the choices. If I type =E2=80=98q=E2=80=99 to quit ispell, =
the answer to the
> > =E2=80=9Cyes-or-no=E2=80=9D prompt has not the intended effect but =
becomes written in
> > the frame showing the choices.
>=20
> It's a 'y-or-n-p' prompt here and it asks me (unfortunately in the
> original frame) "Really kill Ispell process? ".  If I now type "y" =
here,
> the frame gets killed.  With 'ispell-word' via M-$.
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 > Basically this works fine. However, when I type =E2=80=98x=E2=80=99 to=
 exit ispell,
 > the buffer which was spelled appears a second time in the frame that
 > showed the choices. If I type =E2=80=98q=E2=80=99 to quit ispell, the =
answer to the
 > =E2=80=9Cyes-or-no=E2=80=9D prompt has not the intended effect but bec=
omes written in
 > the frame showing the choices.

It's a 'y-or-n-p' prompt here and it asks me (unfortunately in the
original frame) "Really kill Ispell process? ".  If I now type "y" here,
the frame gets killed.  With 'ispell-word' via M-$.

martin





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Subject: Re: bug#40238: Trying to customize the ispell choices buffer via
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Remembering what you told me, the problem with =E2=80=9Cx=E2=80=9D to =
exit ispell is solvable by inserting (dedicated . t) in the =
customization below. The other problem is not affected by this.

Konrad

> Am 26.03.2020 um 16:52 schrieb Konrad Podczeck =
<konrad.podczeck@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> Thanks!
>=20
> Basically this works fine. However, when I type =E2=80=98x=E2=80=99 to =
exit ispell, the buffer which was spelled appears a second time in the =
frame that showed the choices. If I type =E2=80=98q=E2=80=99 to quit =
ispell, the answer to the =E2=80=9Cyes-or-no=E2=80=9D prompt has not the =
intended effect but becomes written in the frame showing the choices.
>=20
> Konrad
>=20
>=20
>> Am 26.03.2020 um 16:29 schrieb martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN>:
>>=20
>>> There is no effect if in display-buffer-alist the ispell choices =
buffer is customized, e.g. in the form
>>>=20
>>>    ("\\*Choices\\*"
>>>     (display-buffer-reuse-window display-buffer-pop-up-frame)
>>>      (pop-up-frame-parameters
>>>      (tool-bar-lines . 0)
>>>      (font . "Monaco-12")
>>>      (left . 778)
>>>      (top . 280) (height . 12) (width . 78)
>>>      ))
>>=20
>> Intentionally so.  IIRC, displaying *Choices* was initially even more
>> rigid - it didn't use 'display-buffer' at all.
>>=20
>> The solution is to set 'ispell-choices-win-default-height' to a very
>> large value so that in practice 'split-window' can never make a =
window
>> that high.  If after some time you come to the conclusion that this
>> trick works satisfactorily, we can mention it somewhere at your =
choice.
>>=20
>> martin
>=20





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Thanks!

Basically this works fine. However, when I type =E2=80=98x=E2=80=99 to =
exit ispell, the buffer which was spelled appears a second time in the =
frame that showed the choices. If I type =E2=80=98q=E2=80=99 to quit =
ispell, the answer to the =E2=80=9Cyes-or-no=E2=80=9D prompt has not the =
intended effect but becomes written in the frame showing the choices.

Konrad


> Am 26.03.2020 um 16:29 schrieb martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN>:
>=20
> > There is no effect if in display-buffer-alist the ispell choices =
buffer is customized, e.g. in the form
> >
> >     ("\\*Choices\\*"
> >      (display-buffer-reuse-window display-buffer-pop-up-frame)
> >       (pop-up-frame-parameters
> >       (tool-bar-lines . 0)
> >       (font . "Monaco-12")
> >       (left . 778)
> >       (top . 280) (height . 12) (width . 78)
> >       ))
>=20
> Intentionally so.  IIRC, displaying *Choices* was initially even more
> rigid - it didn't use 'display-buffer' at all.
>=20
> The solution is to set 'ispell-choices-win-default-height' to a very
> large value so that in practice 'split-window' can never make a window
> that high.  If after some time you come to the conclusion that this
> trick works satisfactorily, we can mention it somewhere at your =
choice.
>=20
> martin





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 > There is no effect if in display-buffer-alist the ispell choices buffer is customized, e.g. in the form
 >
 >     ("\\*Choices\\*"
 >      (display-buffer-reuse-window display-buffer-pop-up-frame)
 >       (pop-up-frame-parameters
 >       (tool-bar-lines . 0)
 >       (font . "Monaco-12")
 >       (left . 778)
 >       (top . 280) (height . 12) (width . 78)
 >       ))

Intentionally so.  IIRC, displaying *Choices* was initially even more
rigid - it didn't use 'display-buffer' at all.

The solution is to set 'ispell-choices-win-default-height' to a very
large value so that in practice 'split-window' can never make a window
that high.  If after some time you come to the conclusion that this
trick works satisfactorily, we can mention it somewhere at your choice.

martin




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There is no effect if in display-buffer-alist the ispell choices buffer =
is customized, e.g. in the form

   ("\\*Choices\\*"
    (display-buffer-reuse-window display-buffer-pop-up-frame)
     (pop-up-frame-parameters
     (tool-bar-lines . 0)
     (font . "Monaco-12")
     (left . 778)
     (top . 280) (height . 12) (width . 78)
     ))

Konrad





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