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Content preview: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > >> I'm still not enthusiastic about duplicating the hash printing here. >> Whenever print_vectorlike changes, this has to be changed, too. > > Nothing ex [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40704 Cc: 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > >> I'm still not enthusiastic about duplicating the hash printing here. >> Whenever print_vectorlike changes, this has to be changed, too. > > Nothing existing fits the needs here, since printing with prin1 can't be > controlled as much as we need. I'm ok with leaving the code as is for > now, since both alternatives seem equally bad to me. I was wondering whether we could factor out the hash table bits from print_vectorlike and reuse them here, somehow... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes:
> (3) I also decided to change `eieio-override-prin1' to print hash tables
> "by hand" from Lisp. The eieio-persistent requires to modify how
> elements in the hash tables are printed, and the current way of doing
> this (make a copy of the complete table, change the elements, prin1 and
> re-read the result) is not only hackish but also inefficient (it does
> this recursively for nested tables).
[...]
> + (princ "#s(hash-table size ")
> + (prin1 (hash-table-size thing))
> + (princ " test ")
> + (prin1 (hash-table-test thing))
> + (princ " weakness ")
> + (prin1 (hash-table-weakness thing))
> + (princ " rehash-size ")
> + (prin1 (hash-table-rehash-size thing))
> + (princ " rehash-threshold ")
> + (prin1 (hash-table-rehash-threshold thing))
> + (princ " data (")
I'm still not enthusiastic about duplicating the hash printing here.
Whenever print_vectorlike changes, this has to be changed, too.
--
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Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes:
> > > + (gc-cons-threshold (max gc-cons-threshold (* 800000 500)))
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe it would be wise to factor this out into a defvar so that it's in
reach of users. The value could be a function whose return value could
also depend on the actual size of the registry.
Michael.
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Full text available.Received: (at 40704) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2020 15:19:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 19 11:19:49 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60996 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1jxB6T-0000vD-5F for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 11:19:49 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:51065) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>) id 1jxB6S-0000v1-4l for 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 11:19:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1595171979; bh=kDnTnFZwPTGX4FuZ91UpPpgFapCkFGER3bmKFVeMup4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=lVOf+o/i9JGu3mgCgroqnGbYyTrMKw2uqGve3quVNB9xpggHnm+zyXtf6kXVS6ou7 rYJ6kVUYwBTYgiYtbR2zeq78xZBnxIr0ZfiE5PK9bJdUd5XzbdLSxy74XLGmC0GgAe vgGkEU5daX8lbmbn5ayJRPfvF50WslA7xvh79mgc= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.208.183.182]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MGQC7-1k2wPH37sb-00GpD5; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 17:19:38 +0200 From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#40704: 28.0.50; Improve and speed up (Gnus) registry saving References: <87a738ql1z.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o8ocuu50.fsf@HIDDEN> <87k0yzd0b6.fsf@HIDDEN> <87imejpn58.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 17:19:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87imejpn58.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2020 16:58:27 +0200") Message-ID: <87ft9ncz1y.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:NJPFv+/KwDBEuIAc0ZLBCSOcNLENa9R1cOY8Ni8gpFOURPauWSC w9LgT6bRAPRYjDq34n42iMstaR4MTN0XO8OZ18eyLN6iVJXnFFR2OzJqQQAf4fMq1tyo0bG TZN1fJIkJeEGJkZ5viASufSc/3NHrVkrlG+3nhgT2a4B6Ju2EZGhPSnbq2V2aH+JmXm1mZ1 vNb6I9letARcyVpwPlLlg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ksPCJoCzhDM=:F28WPMGspqlb0vnl8dSKcW j/9GrA7UQi7zxnn2dC6Bgwlo5+/k1GbcMrzi6o+EuFpMYdFiAer/uDCr3QfEuvCARiv+WeQgG I7owU94uLnKD92uBRdWl9tZfMSaBWaTyoYwjOp7sfF1/3rQfSZGwtlC/u1Aqa+9VSX0H6EAAI AnlkhlKOd6i2tbvwqxEFP48yvXA7kGb96h3omszLcoShAx5gEriKZsKyY1XOUhnsHT7sR/9I7 QFZwvrR5xPDSG6Zy/3ikPvooc6Grr3Uqs3QMLhIkih+JBpbnnYFMJRBnVS9HKlXn0iszRRFn2 K3VY3cHdbbELBO9UF9BNANlXdZ/fhV0gnGECyGw0xvO2XkOcf/DokTW8HEMTSKGNZdNWdf0Rd vlSiPA5sjDsvpmtpMCPz12nhG4Sx/dIqauacv5MTbRocnNm6hzlNlKB0se1J/wxrz2qBJKtfk TtYlQuXEfc2JKBz8MpBDTl2rCpxwuAg7KMRRmWH8F7qaDYaoZVxMrYyotNRLdHQ36tU9pkSEl HdwxSUJZSCX5q/vCUEN6voLPNc5NqIc7Q3WnDJH4r9JA+QrpCmU9fHpj4/F3FwEk74k9/Wg+L 0HZTDT2oKjbvq59frrIj5QMmrOxj6pIvZ4vgvhxQRMUVaJOMv2H8k+VrLD0wzm/jJei0BADoB hIA+Rw0vBVMwZmdBAH9MnRGQXC3dPCeAHcKZXVIGU2sXyJq2pEAPRrfBiOlrmOrMVbvX/TWp6 99zoJPy9AB8XwXNdaDKtE80mM3qneNw8KfjRoxbzF5Y4W3jSu+0KGQ8mE11u9LnUiogKYr/R9 nBOBVMmnrYQg605EGhHPFubnmETngMB9FsbMPgBPzxqQYX2fIkWaIRz5GArQZVyhB8Nnj9Xkf 35mEVdv57fWqocREZrdr6/rF7Xwfl0wj8RTXhttLn9bKtqN+F+H3gvp+zvcJFMXx0dLlP3XyG W47qTRu3mWM80Ymdpytc64Hhnzlplqrv8K+U6J4jYJYkVVu+NXswoQydtb2LLLDzmIKnnHtfS Bu8Y1N1v0tFNpRLvyMencdJu8hGmXZ7QGRCvANzZRP4L3kivl9QTPYsrylkg3jPo2akNsWkoR 78VE/HFoSKeMF3ICidbrjITyt1h2BZrWamugs/OrGJJGr0PPoA+8gOoi36yKCxs8hTSgmYgJ8 p8BGeXCKIxFxslsUdPSe2o2duK9/LUwW/ekmaJepHcO8QnCiG6F4dGSjm1SNV2UGLOmTTq2VK PTaHaI1BJZzez0YriwEuxa102KYfOFxwap6y6QQ== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40704 Cc: 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > Presumably there's already code to print a hash table somewhere in > Emacs? That would be the other printer, since your patch adds a new > one. That's what the code currently already does. But: See what I wrote about the purpose of the patch: our saving code needs to modify how elements in the hash table are printed. The Lisp printer doesn't allow that per se. My suggested patch substitutes a very inefficient hack with a more efficient hack. The current code uses printing + re-reading AFAIR - and that on nested hash tables. I thought long about removing the need for this hack altogehter, but this is very complicated, if not impossible (yes, you would need to change the printer). Michael.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#40704; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 40704) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2020 14:52:51 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 19 10:52:51 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60983 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1jxAgM-0000Gk-UV for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 10:52:51 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:50949) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>) id 1jxAgI-0000GT-QI for 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 10:52:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1595170350; bh=QB6whjVL+iGDbwZgl1WcY9roh4NbbPpp0DWKtBXy1dQ=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=fZehNvDaYeRjV35Z+FZIzK6X+c3UwJ2FB2nhCBfWbIyjQ7U0EplRmWaGZXYHrJ5C1 oVpwBQJdbQh/FHAqBdrUaNahLyM1MUyfYgm53CYbizNpZyImqkXrO4sFTlZD/77BeD ABm1rkW4xICakyvMnWd5cWoNvbjn05pOauEcI4sQ= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.208.183.182]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MHY5w-1jyG4Q0i9k-003QBz; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 16:52:30 +0200 From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#40704: 28.0.50; Improve and speed up (Gnus) registry saving References: <87a738ql1z.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o8ocuu50.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 16:52:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o8ocuu50.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2020 04:16:11 +0200") Message-ID: <87k0yzd0b6.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:DxLsEV92YZaOsu2mdIeF7wdJIKZycSKBfZEA/jS0AUHfTrwYH03 BwUdRmK2olfp/5CORD7koP7z/W6yIO1ZObZk9/2m5nMn4LkdEdCPNTPCM739T0awEZmfLhl n+8wYW/VHr3yqXFDF81MQ/2SA8iA5S6IA69yXJlh+/Lmg2s/J6wjnSwdxgmz2z/mibw8VLr BZ5h/tn+E5Yb2sPoOUajA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:tOxHJkZOIjE=:3cqb1mmd6RvHHRVU5tWzvn d2MAPS+NKOjyQi7JoAwbp5FLVXRmanwaXqUGW2ZfIJaT6rCNYdMC/OVidh8qCdEj+SfYhvher lmmwuubP9q6ssvtZjU9ml6xN87XkTCNcZEZYoGeWAn9mqHqaLlR2SgoShvjQDaQNTeMSRIfxy J78SC3G1q38ylnVJxD9X1rWa2fQZia75mPqcZLOsd8EF7opuByFlvCXEZ9gacw1vs3vK8smbg LGa8fMx04KlX/VQvHYzCOqxae+KBLkEUArAxRw+6NjztcG4x3TxntqBP41v0Ldcp4UyOSj6W7 Vf38h46nWswPpCspRaXqvvo+v8bdAoQ30WjsDBVyZIpW/+urR5Sx11fP4G9Tyz84Xq99G5SRD WTmLMXnviJlJ70jYwHRmZpHiHvQca9CsuIVmw/mFlt75Ln9tAw3yfucCijYkX8/X40Qx11YeR UV/BHVbet9f/uSiPH5wC4bkBlzW4satW8ammN2uWxqSvHFbFTWYFynh395y2V+XwPtXwV4sHS USR07K5lwAlnYQYWUzwpB1wWplrAachOKMZoLI+SJVjN6pLmSLnS5c3aYace8Sb20h6R5XOzW AoS+SxWhMDPC0ngav+UKiqa4ckdyYHwYtO/ihGKFRUBWvJT+SmF4XTDRwt0/xGwYxqld9wa6u eiMzGjZo6yqofHb7Srw+15t6RsWLAchoTUwC0Z2Pt/D7O8rO7YtbDZqK+rG1wZHRG4t1PJcRm P271DpBOYh5UIrqyOoljVTK/VAg9VG9gJ68b3VLxeV+/hZzkML344AgTUD0XZeSVkCrVqsiXK 0y6QSzjqfBRm123TDm3IgeqkIaLKv/sjs6GHZmCZOO8ozPjtSARvsTxJJSgY3dE5WVm66j1RF MXtaigSdD6xcipxwNlNTO9IGNsr1UaZlKohyZnrzTDFUYyUjBUu4WbQ01noDPiwjvD02zOYbG SL0qr7k6+ERnO3seCbT7hOc2gTFNrvgGmA0R9MLXY7jJOnoju9j1RS6mng248mQzDKs5Oj6XU LHkGFw3oavWdAy91tstkqRFgisH8QUDE+6gDSrJ1TAWCGRZs4zLgZoKXz56n+PU/MsZJ2gQPe cKYgBJqkR923CoWGm07Y3LaSxk0dFJo93AVFerqUTuoy7Xj+2tRKtd7RWnyXVrF2YjqPeHEkc NmPnMi+kqo7PVISIuh4/jVOh3sHB7sBbfbmzb9Ts0zmDdZ4xuTUdlJT0QxFtVKl3/dGRxu+Fa yeJSPysG+2KF+p0qbu8skRRK3f1xWR2gw3zIt0w== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40704 Cc: 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > > + (princ "#s(hash-table size ") > > + (prin1 (hash-table-size thing)) > > + (princ " test ") > > + (prin1 (hash-table-test thing)) > > + (princ " weakness ") > > + (prin1 (hash-table-weakness thing)) > > + (princ " rehash-size ") > > etc > > So if the other printer changes, then this has to change, too? That > seems kinda brittle -- there should at least be references between the > two printers with a note to keep them updated if one of them changes. What do you mean, "other printer"? The Lisp printer? This read syntax is officially described in the Elisp manual: (info "(elisp) Creating Hash") (near the end of the page), so I would expect that the syntax will be supported in the future. > > diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el > > index 480ed80ef8..4ac3c84a80 100644 > > --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el > > +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el > > @@ -398,6 +398,7 @@ gnus-registry-save > > (interactive) > > (let* ((file (or file gnus-registry-cache-file)) > > (db (or db gnus-registry-db)) > > + (gc-cons-threshold (max gc-cons-threshold (* 800000 500))) > > (clone (clone db))) > > (gnus-message 5 "Saving Gnus registry (%d entries) to %s..." > > (registry-size db) file) > > Could this have adverse consequences for people with low memory? These are 400 MB... Could be? Dunno. I wonder, though, if when you would hit that limit when that code runs, your computer can hold that huge hash-table at all. I don't know the relation between hash-table size and corresponding amount of garbage. But I guess if you are low on memory using the registry is problematic per se. Michael.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > (3) I also decided to change `eieio-override-prin1' to print hash tables > "by hand" from Lisp. The eieio-persistent requires to modify how > elements in the hash tables are printed, and the current [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40704 Cc: 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > (3) I also decided to change `eieio-override-prin1' to print hash tables > "by hand" from Lisp. The eieio-persistent requires to modify how > elements in the hash tables are printed, and the current way of doing > this (make a copy of the complete table, change the elements, prin1 and > re-read the result) is not only hackish but also inefficient (it does > this recursively for nested tables). Yeah, the current implementation seems maximally inefficient... But I guess this copies functionality found elsewhere? > + (princ "#s(hash-table size ") > + (prin1 (hash-table-size thing)) > + (princ " test ") > + (prin1 (hash-table-test thing)) > + (princ " weakness ") > + (prin1 (hash-table-weakness thing)) > + (princ " rehash-size ") etc So if the other printer changes, then this has to change, too? That seems kinda brittle -- there should at least be references between the two printers with a note to keep them updated if one of them changes. > diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el > index 480ed80ef8..4ac3c84a80 100644 > --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el > +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el > @@ -398,6 +398,7 @@ gnus-registry-save > (interactive) > (let* ((file (or file gnus-registry-cache-file)) > (db (or db gnus-registry-db)) > + (gc-cons-threshold (max gc-cons-threshold (* 800000 500))) > (clone (clone db))) > (gnus-message 5 "Saving Gnus registry (%d entries) to %s..." > (registry-size db) file) Could this have adverse consequences for people with low memory? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at 40704) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2020 16:11:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 29 12:11:30 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44403 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1jTpJ4-00048z-A1 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:11:30 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:52232 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eric@HIDDEN>) id 1jTpJ2-00048f-14 for 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:11:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@HIDDEN) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11F6BFA16B; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 16:11:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#40704: 28.0.50; Improve and speed up (Gnus) registry saving References: <87a738ql1z.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pnc2lrpi.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfmpkac0.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o8rl33oi.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o8rjvvf5.fsf@HIDDEN> <87368vapxy.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:11:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87368vapxy.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:36:25 -0700") Message-ID: <87368me0h4.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40704 Cc: 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes: > Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes: >> >>> > -- who has experience with this problem -- anybody? >> >> Maybe the scaling idea is not a good idea at all. Even when it works as >> we hope - the ideal factor could still depend on what kind of data is >> saved. >> >>> Not me, let's hope for more respondents... >> >> Did you try how the increased gc-limit behaves for you btw? Then we >> would at least have two data points. > > I applied the patch a couple of days ago and have been very pleased with > the speedup! Nothing "bad" has happened, but I haven't tried > experimenting with different gc limits, either. Hey let's at least stick in the modification-hook and hash-table improvements now, there are Gnus users out there still waiting for their registry to save! It helps noticeably with EBDB, too.
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Full text available.Received: (at 40704) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Apr 2020 02:36:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 22 22:36:38 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53728 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1jRRjB-0008MF-9I for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 22:36:38 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:47626 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eric@HIDDEN>) id 1jRRj8-0008M0-9m for 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 22:36:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@HIDDEN) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91391FA099; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 02:36:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#40704: 28.0.50; Improve and speed up (Gnus) registry saving References: <87a738ql1z.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pnc2lrpi.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfmpkac0.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o8rl33oi.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o8rjvvf5.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:36:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87o8rjvvf5.fsf@HIDDEN> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Thu, 23 Apr 2020 03:32:30 +0200") Message-ID: <87368vapxy.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40704 Cc: 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes: > >> > -- who has experience with this problem -- anybody? > > Maybe the scaling idea is not a good idea at all. Even when it works as > we hope - the ideal factor could still depend on what kind of data is > saved. > >> Not me, let's hope for more respondents... > > Did you try how the increased gc-limit behaves for you btw? Then we > would at least have two data points. I applied the patch a couple of days ago and have been very pleased with the speedup! Nothing "bad" has happened, but I haven't tried experimenting with different gc limits, either.
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Full text available.Received: (at 40704) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Apr 2020 01:32:46 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 22 21:32:46 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53688 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1jRQjO-0006ll-G7 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:32:46 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:42737) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>) id 1jRQjN-0006lW-3m for 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 21:32:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1587605548; bh=60KjwY2549yoRetZE3FIDUYYRNgcT8aRTxekh6KwRls=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=gw7oNtp3Hj/d9Pl9tuOtHOqS7QNnjMIMZm50QGD84WpqdFmpHTGtld7P4knxZMCHz 2cmJ0k9Mnpy0j0alAPxyqQ402f6/gC4umBB4BAHPWvpK3HH9i4Ay+bG7F2q5DxWuHx aMTA1bXOdmv5MhCOJwDsFFkGgNsqlv6tnoxJF/Nw= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([188.98.99.7]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LuqfJ-1j14Gr2NZR-0104BL; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 03:32:28 +0200 From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#40704: 28.0.50; Improve and speed up (Gnus) registry saving References: <87a738ql1z.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pnc2lrpi.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfmpkac0.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o8rl33oi.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 03:32:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87o8rl33oi.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 20 Apr 2020 20:42:21 -0700") Message-ID: <87o8rjvvf5.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:5mhOwN857kkQUeXDR1VdfkSIv4CgL/zgUKJVgosv9GIDtLsFbya eRHICgTFcPDedvn3hwXliVFeHrzGpBdAtaUSDrWMRWA+B3mTYcuuCPezwuhUxAi0XucZDHI 3LWwa+h37SoXK17KYRLCm2IBQN2PTLFcjmQqwIL1POsTgiP0zp3l3GdOBwW0kJaDB4T9QSx ooXqaLmBphd+JwGwPTRww== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:1/jUfW17mLw=:EUG6NQE34mH7iRrVd3Biu7 PvmOg+3ZEXZ6Ma4Kf1rdoE7TmxvccUe5J0721iWCsz44EQjbo24DbQDnuURuxVjxuz4/HrlQq kYcYmLqA9olXtR+1MwKJJNUAxJ/dkkbceoMYXkP2PS1JlGPXgAUxR+k3fsJsqfbQubXNFBrV9 b0JYVzYGKrVYYrDoKILJycAMvtgliXfjDyTFSrRdKxTZv+Hg13cRQcCooSOHaN0AI8V+bozxg KXVWm2YEex0y+G+n3e7TXAXwc0GKbc3ciR2y8/jQkIuCFZYo4gVOnjTz5XJxVddlEHH0EsD8o eocA/xgvUq6nOYn46/wCtKHtXWbnzWPyqk8iHfWqEPc8FEF9R4mMZZhAIikHddNS/L0ubI90n ShIkCNGWyoNT3N2mUcEFIUppbzxL+xbcyqaFGRZ5UPBkZ9I2Jf3nf66uCnc6C09t5A6Vc3I41 HG765q1QsyTSlPaHJJRDotbsWnHBLHB4YdLYDav1bH0LiA5Z08QkpJ3lFdAb9dfsc1bQY3hUV Jvm0wmCiRoMPxx6JwAOAbjUvHVSpa4n0DSWgP4xd/Qo8uuRoOO+NLBDJ7kB9UrafCdNtF16bu RzKcupkblS+e0sHwcU1UevT8cDiPMQZj0zCW6Cyzi6iYoHVQfvSXoGtm2cnZVn5T5hCQlxtEt BvLCn4H4I19VlfqIAUzk8USYr9be5tXkcJxJOPPnCZFRqWsACp1fRk9HGHo7qjpabnP0MVDD8 2VUfrRSDgDSqy3VznjP5G89/S31Oi3ZK/o8sIvJLeNtVCqciFzbqvaUhcihqo0YUwfP4Xkiqo Hqqn/g7R6goIXW62Ttrhx2Kr6QlnuAlCM0U4TbR1bLp0tob9tx3t9Wf9k5sktOVPOGO6e1Y0e ZHwd+Xn4uWZt5j6K4VkZe1AEQrA6mC1ONnkV14goZkuZNizDkrnCu0l5N1X2YwcBrc46VFDPE htt+wxQosZzzUNVxDziQy9EXuauQEHQc6wIjScvSUZtQ90JyB1XlgGehZSanefYVmecZ/2x1P hnYprROpmSSvB3BLpex584u6TOQwHpoNSMBR6O1jSVNhp46bhmutem1PKwdHqJF8Qz3QTPJiR k2cGRSXWAuUDp27x0V5UUbLkfaICvO+yWAiQgiUZTpITRGQrJo08G48UfyL495YOZcq9MIXjD +sQsUhyNpcd9ocXVBf5wPVpb3MwsBsv9ozcWLAankCQ9xkpAjVDVUocCVUVQuvfywwi3UyTj8 HLe8KQq+8v18fjHBb X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40704 Cc: 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes: > > -- who has experience with this problem -- anybody? Maybe the scaling idea is not a good idea at all. Even when it works as we hope - the ideal factor could still depend on what kind of data is saved. > Not me, let's hope for more respondents... Did you try how the increased gc-limit behaves for you btw? Then we would at least have two data points. Michael.
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Full text available.Received: (at 40704) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2020 03:42:32 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 20 23:42:32 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48814 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1jQjns-0007rN-JN for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 23:42:32 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:48696 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eric@HIDDEN>) id 1jQjnq-0007r9-K8 for 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 23:42:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@HIDDEN) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E72EFA02A; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 03:42:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#40704: 28.0.50; Improve and speed up (Gnus) registry saving References: <87a738ql1z.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pnc2lrpi.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfmpkac0.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 20:42:21 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87lfmpkac0.fsf@HIDDEN> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Tue, 21 Apr 2020 01:26:39 +0200") Message-ID: <87o8rl33oi.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40704 Cc: 40704 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes: > >> > Any comments on the suggested changes? >> >> Not that it's up to me, > > I wonder who it's up to... There's sort of a `with-gnus-bug-report' macro that we're working with here, where if Lars (or in this case, Ted Zlatanov) doesn't respond within a certain period of time, the commit automatically goes in. >> but I'm all for putting in #1 and #3 as-is, and adjusting #2 to scale >> with the number of `gnus-registry-max-entries', with the addition of a >> hard ceiling. > > Too large values of `gnus-registry-max-entries' can be harmful > (fragmentation of memory?), I wonder if this can potentially be the case > here. Well that's where the hard ceiling comes in, right? > I'm also not sure if scaling is a good idea at all. The value I chose > will still make gc happen much less frequently even if your registry is > huge. So it's still a win. If your value is too large, the final > cleanup may take longer as necessary -- who has experience with this > problem -- anybody? Not me, let's hope for more respondents...
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Too large values of `gnus-registry-max-entries' can be harmful (fragmentation of memory?), I wonder if this can potentially be the case here. I'm also not sure if scaling is a good idea at all. The value I chose will still make gc happen much less frequently even if your registry is huge. So it's still a win. If your value is too large, the final cleanup may take longer as necessary -- who has experience with this problem -- anybody? Thanks, Michael.
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Hello,
Saving the Gnus registry is quite slow currently. I profiled a bit and
for now suggest to do something like in the attached patch. In detail:
(1) We need to bind inhibit-modification-hooks -> t, this offers a good
speedup (~ 4 or so).
(2) Printing the registry which basically consists of huge hash tables,
causes a lot of garbage. Most of that garbage seems to be unavoidable
(is it created by the printing primitives?). Anyway, seems we should
temporarily increase `gc-cons-threshold' drastically, this offers
another speedup of 25% or so. The patch attached uses the value that
works well for me and the size of my registry, and I bind it in
`gnus-registry-save', because I assume other registries outside of Gnus
can be smaller. What would be a good value of `gc-cons-threshold', or
should it even scale with `gnus-registry-max-entries' instead of being
constant?
(3) I also decided to change `eieio-override-prin1' to print hash tables
"by hand" from Lisp. The eieio-persistent requires to modify how
elements in the hash tables are printed, and the current way of doing
this (make a copy of the complete table, change the elements, prin1 and
re-read the result) is not only hackish but also inefficient (it does
this recursively for nested tables).
Any comments on the suggested changes?
TIA,
Michael.
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=46rom 618362e3496df18d0f60143b71185ad57501fdcb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 23:33:39 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] WIP: Try to improve gnus registry saving
=2D--
lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio-base.el | 3 ++-
lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio.el | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el | 1 +
3 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio-base.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio-base.el
index 2cb1f614ce..010a2b673e 100644
=2D-- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio-base.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio-base.el
@@ -473,7 +473,8 @@ eieio-persistent-save
(let* ((cfn (or file (oref this file)))
(default-directory (file-name-directory cfn)))
(cl-letf ((standard-output (current-buffer))
- ((oref this file) ;FIXME: Why change it?
+ (inhibit-modification-hooks t)
+ ((oref this file) ;FIXME: Why change it?
(if file
;; FIXME: Makes a name relative to (oref this file),
;; whereas I think it should be relative to cfn.
diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio.el
index 9f8b639e52..43d515e1fa 100644
=2D-- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio.el
+++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/eieio.el
@@ -934,15 +934,32 @@ eieio-override-prin1
((consp thing)
(eieio-list-prin1 thing))
((hash-table-p thing)
- (let ((copy (copy-hash-table thing)))
- (maphash
+ (princ "#s(hash-table size ")
+ (prin1 (hash-table-size thing))
+ (princ " test ")
+ (prin1 (hash-table-test thing))
+ (princ " weakness ")
+ (prin1 (hash-table-weakness thing))
+ (princ " rehash-size ")
+ (prin1 (hash-table-rehash-size thing))
+ (princ " rehash-threshold ")
+ (prin1 (hash-table-rehash-threshold thing))
+ (princ " data (")
+ (let* ((eieio-print-depth (if eieio-print-indentation
+ (1+ eieio-print-depth)
+ eieio-print-depth))
+ (do-indent (if eieio-print-indentation
+ (lambda () (princ (make-string (* eieio-pr=
int-depth 2) ? )))
+ #'ignore)))
+ (maphash
(lambda (key val)
- (setf (gethash key copy)
- (read
- (with-output-to-string
- (eieio-override-prin1 val)))))
- copy)
- (prin1 copy)))
+ (princ "\n")
+ (funcall do-indent)
+ (prin1 key)
+ (princ " ")
+ (eieio-override-prin1 val))
+ thing))
+ (princ "))"))
((vectorp thing)
(let ((copy (copy-sequence thing)))
(dotimes (i (length copy))
diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el
index 480ed80ef8..4ac3c84a80 100644
=2D-- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el
+++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el
@@ -398,6 +398,7 @@ gnus-registry-save
(interactive)
(let* ((file (or file gnus-registry-cache-file))
(db (or db gnus-registry-db))
+ (gc-cons-threshold (max gc-cons-threshold (* 800000 500)))
(clone (clone db)))
(gnus-message 5 "Saving Gnus registry (%d entries) to %s..."
(registry-size db) file)
=2D-
2.25.1
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