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26.3; back-directory-alist ignored

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From: Brett Carter <brett <at> rdnzl.net>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 26.3; back-directory-alist ignored
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:30:55 -0400

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As of Emacs 26.3 on OSX is appears back-directory-alist is
ignored. Auto-save files are no longer going to a tmpdir but are always
saved in the current directory.

I verified this by starting emacs with --no-init-file and setting the
backup-directory-alist manually.

-Brett


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Message #8 received at 40802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Brett Carter <brett <at> rdnzl.net>
Cc: 40802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#40802: 26.3; back-directory-alist ignored
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 12:24:50 +0300

> From: Brett Carter <brett <at> rdnzl.net>
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:30:55 -0400
> 
> As of Emacs 26.3 on OSX is appears back-directory-alist is
> ignored. Auto-save files are no longer going to a tmpdir but are always
> saved in the current directory.
> 
> I verified this by starting emacs with --no-init-file and setting the
> backup-directory-alist manually.

I cannot reproduce this on my system, so it's probably either specific
to OSX or specific to your system.

Message #11 received at 40802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 40802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Brett Carter <brett <at> rdnzl.net>
Subject: Re: bug#40802: 26.3; back-directory-alist ignored
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 15:43:29 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> > As of Emacs 26.3 on OSX is appears back-directory-alist is

Is it possible this is because you misspelled backup-directory-alist?

> > ignored. Auto-save files are no longer going to a tmpdir but are always
> > saved in the current directory.
> >
> > I verified this by starting emacs with --no-init-file and setting the
> > backup-directory-alist manually.
>
> I cannot reproduce this on my system, so it's probably either specific
> to OSX or specific to your system.

I can't reproduce this on my macOS machine, using "emacs -Q" and:

(setq backup-directory-alist '(("." . "~/backups")))

In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0, NS
appkit-1348.17 Version 10.10.5 (Build 14F2511))
 of 2019-09-02 built on builder10-10.porkrind.org
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1561

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

Message #16 received at 40802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 40802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 Brett Carter <brett <at> rdnzl.net>
Subject: Re: bug#40802: 26.3; back-directory-alist ignored
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 18:06:33 +0200

Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> > As of Emacs 26.3 on OSX is appears back-directory-alist is
>
> Is it possible this is because you misspelled backup-directory-alist?

[...]

> I can't reproduce this on my macOS machine, using "emacs -Q" and:
>
> (setq backup-directory-alist '(("." . "~/backups")))

More information was requested, but no response was given within a
year, so I'm closing this bug report.  If the problem still exists,
please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #21 received at 40802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: 40802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Brett Carter <brett <at> rdnzl.net>,
 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Subject: Fwd: bug#40802: 26.3; back-directory-alist ignored
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 16:27:01 +0200

This bug was closed because of a lack of response.  Brett actually got
back to me in April 2020, but it seems like he didn't use "Reply to
all", so it never reached the bug tracker.  I have included his full
message below.

I'll leave it to you to decide if this means the bug should be re-opened or not.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
Från: Brett Carter <brett <at> rdnzl.net>
Date: tors 30 apr. 2020 kl 17:02
Subject: Re: bug#40802: 26.3; back-directory-alist ignored
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>


Nope, sorry - I just mis-typed it in this email subject. My literal config is:
(setq backup-directory-alist
      `((".*" . ,temporary-file-directory)))
(setq auto-save-file-name-transforms
      `((".*" ,temporary-file-directory t)))

I ran emacs with --no-init-file then set this config manually using
eval-expression. I still observe autobackup files in my current
directory. I also observed that temporary-file-directory exists and
emacs is writing other types of files there.

-Brett

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:43 AM Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> wrote:
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
> > > As of Emacs 26.3 on OSX is appears back-directory-alist is
>
> Is it possible this is because you misspelled backup-directory-alist?
>
> > > ignored. Auto-save files are no longer going to a tmpdir but are always
> > > saved in the current directory.
> > >
> > > I verified this by starting emacs with --no-init-file and setting the
> > > backup-directory-alist manually.
> >
> > I cannot reproduce this on my system, so it's probably either specific
> > to OSX or specific to your system.
>
> I can't reproduce this on my macOS machine, using "emacs -Q" and:
>
> (setq backup-directory-alist '(("." . "~/backups")))
>
> In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0, NS
> appkit-1348.17 Version 10.10.5 (Build 14F2511))
>  of 2019-09-02 built on builder10-10.porkrind.org
> Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1561
>
> Best regards,
> Stefan Kangas

Message #24 received at 40802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 40802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 Brett Carter <brett <at> rdnzl.net>
Subject: Re: Fwd: bug#40802: 26.3; back-directory-alist ignored
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 12:45:28 +0200

Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

> Nope, sorry - I just mis-typed it in this email subject. My literal config is:
> (setq backup-directory-alist
>       `((".*" . ,temporary-file-directory)))
> (setq auto-save-file-name-transforms
>       `((".*" ,temporary-file-directory t)))
>
> I ran emacs with --no-init-file then set this config manually using
> eval-expression. I still observe autobackup files in my current
> directory. I also observed that temporary-file-directory exists and
> emacs is writing other types of files there.

I'm unable to reproduce this in Emacs 26.1 or Emacs 28 (I don't have
Emacs 26.3 here).

With this conf, all the backup files end up in /tmp/ with names like

  -rw-r--r--  1 larsi      larsi             7 Aug 25 12:42 !home!larsi!tmp!foo~

as expected.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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