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GNU ELPA: Add "reporting bugs" to individual package pages

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Package: emacs; Severity: wishlist; Reported by: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>; dated Mon, 18 May 2020 02:16:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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Subject: Re: bug#41373: GNU ELPA: Add "reporting bugs" to individual package
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On 18.05.2020 05:14, Stefan Kangas wrote:
> I think this is situation could be alleviated by including a static
> section on the pages for individual packages which explains how to
> report bugs.

Since the example was about project.el, we could limit our response to 
adding an explanatory section to :core packages.

I have a rough patch ready, but having trouble building the HTML pages 
of GNU ELPA locally thus far.
Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#41373; Package emacs. Full text available.

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> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>
> Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 19:14:57 -0700
> 
> One user reports:
> 
>     That change fixes the issue! Great! Let’s file a bug and then submit the
>     fix for it… except… the project.el file contains absolutely no
>     information about how to submit bugs or patches. There’s nothing on the
>     project.el web page. No websites, no bug tracker, no email addresses.
> 
>     Folks, if you maintain Open Source software and you ever wonder why
>     you’re not getting contributions… this is why you’re not getting
>     contributions: because you don’t spend any time thinking about making it
>     easy (or in this case, even possible) for folks to contribute back to
>     your project.
> 
>     So, instead of supplying a bug report and a patch, so that other folks
>     might avoid this problem when they upgrade their Emacs packages (and
>     instead of working on PROJECT APOLLO, like I planned to do today), I’m
>     writing this blog post. Hopefully, after I post this online in a few
>     places, Cunningham’s Law will kick in and somebody will show up and tell
>     me where I can send this patch after all…
> 
>     https://genehack.blog/2020/05/open-source-annoyances-and-affordances/
> 
> I think this is situation could be alleviated by including a static
> section on the pages for individual packages which explains how to
> report bugs.

Is this about project.el that's in Emacs?  That one says it is part of
GNU Emacs, like any other bundled package, and thus bugs should be
reported to the Emacs bug tracker, see "emacs --help".  Not sure what
you mean by "pages for individual packages".
Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#41373; Package emacs. Full text available.

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Stefan Kangas wrote:

> I think this is situation could be alleviated by including a static
> section on the pages for individual packages which explains how to
> report bugs.

This will vary from package to package. I doubt "M-x report-emacs-bug"
is right in anything more than a small minority of cases (because it
would require the package developer to subscribe to bug-gnu-emacs).
I would think that the package itself needs to contain its bug reporting
information, independent of elpa.gnu.org.
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bug#41373; Package emacs. Full text available.

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One user reports:

    That change fixes the issue! Great! Let=E2=80=99s file a bug and then s=
ubmit the
    fix for it=E2=80=A6 except=E2=80=A6 the project.el file contains absolu=
tely no
    information about how to submit bugs or patches. There=E2=80=99s nothin=
g on the
    project.el web page. No websites, no bug tracker, no email addresses.

    Folks, if you maintain Open Source software and you ever wonder why
    you=E2=80=99re not getting contributions=E2=80=A6 this is why you=E2=80=
=99re not getting
    contributions: because you don=E2=80=99t spend any time thinking about =
making it
    easy (or in this case, even possible) for folks to contribute back to
    your project.

    So, instead of supplying a bug report and a patch, so that other folks
    might avoid this problem when they upgrade their Emacs packages (and
    instead of working on PROJECT APOLLO, like I planned to do today), I=E2=
=80=99m
    writing this blog post. Hopefully, after I post this online in a few
    places, Cunningham=E2=80=99s Law will kick in and somebody will show up=
 and tell
    me where I can send this patch after all=E2=80=A6

    https://genehack.blog/2020/05/open-source-annoyances-and-affordances/

I think this is situation could be alleviated by including a static
section on the pages for individual packages which explains how to
report bugs.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas
Acknowledgement sent to Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#41373; Package emacs. Full text available.
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