GNU bug report logs - #41659
28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message not readable

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>

Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 07:19:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: fixed, moreinfo

Merged with 39307

Found in version 28.0.50

Fixed in version 27.1

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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bug#41659; Package emacs. (Tue, 02 Jun 2020 07:19:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org. (Tue, 02 Jun 2020 07:19:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message not readable
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 09:17:54 +0200
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
Hi,

Using emacs master: 6d6ec1bc1e784af786cc0436f54211095bf7a952

And my standard smime setting, attached in a file apart,

 '(mml-secure-openpgp-encrypt-to-self t)
 '(mml-secure-openpgp-sign-with-sender nil)
 '(mml-secure-openpgp-signers nil)
 '(mml-secure-smime-encrypt-to-self t)
 '(mml-secure-smime-sign-with-sender t)

The message I received, when encrypted are not readable any more
here are two examples:

I know I sent a similar message some weeks ago with a different master
version. Lars answered everything is fine for him, if he reads this
message could he send me his setting?

For me everything was fine in master 
42ba6200af10c00c72ac13912d6fb42a7af88058

From august last year.

So I could try to bisect that problem, but that is quite cumbersome.

Regards

Uwe Brauer 

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| 
| Return-Path: <oub <at> ucm.es>
| Received: from Utnapischtim (p2003000613e775445dcb6dba53a2145a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [2003:6:13e7:7544:5dcb:6dba:53a2:145a])
|         by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j2sm1113247edn.30.2020.06.02.00.05.15
|         for <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
|         (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
|         Tue, 02 Jun 2020 00:05:15 -0700 (PDT)
| X-Mailer: emacs 28.0.50 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I)
| From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
| To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> 
| Subject: test
| Reply-To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
| Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 09:05:14 +0200
| Message-ID: <87blm2kkwl.fsf <at> mat.ucm.es>
| User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux)
| MIME-Version: 1.0
| Content-Type: application/pkcs7-mime; smime-type=enveloped-data; name=smime.p7m
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
| Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7m
| 
| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
| 
| DQpOYWNpw7NuDQo=
| 
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| From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
| Subject: test 
| To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> 
| Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 09:05:55 +0200 (40 seconds ago)
| Reply-To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
| 
| Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-=";
| 	micalg=sha256;   protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"
| 
| --=-=-=
| Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
| 
| bmFjacOzbg0K
| --=-=-=
| Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s
| Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
| Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s
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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Subject: [bisect: found the culprits] (was: bug#41659: 28.0.50;
 smime: encryption uses now base64, message not readable)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 13:58:07 +0200
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>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:

I bisected the whole afternoon and found the culprits.

* The BUG
First the following commit:

commit 4ce81556b7ad7f7f8c8bb07a7a935114bbe850d0
Author: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Date:   Mon Sep 23 18:23:22 2019 +0200

    Make mm-possibly-verify-or-decrypt pass decryption error

    * lisp/gnus/mm-decode.el (mm-possibly-verify-or-decrypt): If
    there's an error, report the error back in a new part (bug#25649).

Introduced a bug, using any compiled emacs between this commit and
commit 84ef1ea8b524f8998fc8674b99cf8069e38dce4f 

results in an emacs, which cannot decrypt smime messages!


* The repair
commit 84ef1ea8b524f8998fc8674b99cf8069e38dce4f (HEAD)
Author: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Date:   Thu Sep 26 16:24:29 2019 +0200

     Make it possible to view S/MIME verified emails

     * lisp/gnus/mm-decode.el (mm-possibly-verify-or-decrypt): When
     dissecting the result, we need a header (bug#18393).

     * lisp/gnus/mm-view.el (mm-view-pkcs7-verify): Insert the verified
     string.

     * lisp/gnus/smime.el (smime-verify-region): Return the verified
     string.

With this commit, smime message can be decrypted, but they are not
decoded well, at least not for my setting, and my setting worked well
before commit 4ce81556b7ad7f7f8c8bb07a7a935114bbe850d0

So Lars, could you please try to repair this?

[smime.p7s (application/pkcs7-signature, attachment)]

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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: [ASCII is ok] (was: bug#41659: [bisect: found the culprits])
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 18:01:12 +0200
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>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:

>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:
   > I bisected the whole afternoon and found the culprits.

   > * The BUG
   > First the following commit:

   > commit 4ce81556b7ad7f7f8c8bb07a7a935114bbe850d0
   > Author: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
   > Date:   Mon Sep 23 18:23:22 2019 +0200

   >     Make mm-possibly-verify-or-decrypt pass decryption error

   >     * lisp/gnus/mm-decode.el (mm-possibly-verify-or-decrypt): If
   >     there's an error, report the error back in a new part (bug#25649).

   > Introduced a bug, using any compiled emacs between this commit and
   > commit 84ef1ea8b524f8998fc8674b99cf8069e38dce4f 

   > results in an emacs, which cannot decrypt smime messages!


   > * The repair
   > commit 84ef1ea8b524f8998fc8674b99cf8069e38dce4f (HEAD)
   > Author: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
   > Date:   Thu Sep 26 16:24:29 2019 +0200

   >      Make it possible to view S/MIME verified emails

   >      * lisp/gnus/mm-decode.el (mm-possibly-verify-or-decrypt): When
   >      dissecting the result, we need a header (bug#18393).

   >      * lisp/gnus/mm-view.el (mm-view-pkcs7-verify): Insert the verified
   >      string.

   >      * lisp/gnus/smime.el (smime-verify-region): Return the verified
   >      string.

   > With this commit, smime message can be decrypted, but they are not
   > decoded well, at least not for my setting, and my setting worked well
   > before commit 4ce81556b7ad7f7f8c8bb07a7a935114bbe850d0

   > So Lars, could you please try to repair this?

I checked, the error does not occur for ASCII text, so may be that is
why it has been not been noted so far.

I insert some on purpose to see how that is display daß nación
[smime.p7s (application/pkcs7-signature, attachment)]

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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: [ASCII is ok]
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:49:15 +0200
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>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:

>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:
>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:
Hi Lars,

I just had an interchange of smime encrypted and signed messages with
Jens Lechtenboerger.

He confirms that a message with latin-1 chars, which is encrypted and
signed, is not correctly decrypted in the sense that the latin-1 chars
are not correctly displayed and superflusios text is added.

The culprits are 
(defun mm-possibly-verify-or-decrypt (parts ctl &optional from)

And the following commits

 commit 4ce81556b7ad7f7f8c8bb07a7a935114bbe850d0
 Author: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
 Date:   Mon Sep 23 18:23:22 2019 +0200

     Make mm-possibly-verify-or-decrypt pass decryption error

     * lisp/gnus/mm-decode.el (mm-possibly-verify-or-decrypt): If
     there's an error, report the error back in a new part (bug#25649).

Now message cannot be decrypted anymore

** Git repaired
 commit 84ef1ea8b524f8998fc8674b99cf8069e38dce4f (HEAD)
 Author: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
 Date:   Thu Sep 26 16:24:29 2019 +0200

      Make it possible to view S/MIME verified emails

      * lisp/gnus/mm-decode.el (mm-possibly-verify-or-decrypt): When
      dissecting the result, we need a header (bug#18393).

      * lisp/gnus/mm-view.el (mm-view-pkcs7-verify): Insert the verified
      string.

      * lisp/gnus/smime.el (smime-verify-region): Return the verified
      string.

Message can be decrypted, but latin-1 chars are not decoded.

If you want we can run some experiements, but you need to have a smime
certificate installed.


For me it is so annoying that I partially reverted these commits in the
latest emacs master. Here is the diff (I would not call it a patch).

Regards

Uwe Brauer 

[mm-decode-works-master.diff (text/x-diff, attachment)]

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 12:39:50 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:

> | Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-=";
> | 	micalg=sha256;   protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"
> | 
> | --=-=-=
> | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> | 
> | bmFjacOzbg0K
> | --=-=-=
> | Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s
> | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> | Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s

(etc)

I put the included message into an mbox file and looked at it, and Gnus
displayed:

[[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]]
nación

[[End of S/MIME Signed Part]]

Is that what is expected?  If so, I can't reproduce this bug.

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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 13:00:40 +0200
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:
   >> | Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-=";
   >> | 	micalg=sha256;   protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"
   >> | 
   >> | --=-=-=
   >> | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
   >> | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
   >> | 
   >> | bmFjacOzbg0K
   >> | --=-=-=
   >> | Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s
   >> | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
   >> | Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s

   > (etc)

   > I put the included message into an mbox file and looked at it, and Gnus
   > displayed:

   > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]]
   > nación

   > [[End of S/MIME Signed Part]]

   > Is that what is expected?  If so, I can't reproduce this bug.

No sorry this is *not* the problem. I recall we had this discussion and
you closed a similar bug, because I incorrectly stated it is about smime
signed messages. It is not.

It is about encrypted+signed non-ascii message.

This is why I needed Jens Lechtenberger to jump in because he is one of
the few gnus users with a smime certificate.

So in order to reproduce and debug it, I suggest you either 

    1. Get a free smime certificate, there are still some, valid for
       some month. I could look it up for you.

    2. Or maybe your government provides you with one. This is,
       surprisingly, what the spanish goverment does, and I use this
       certificate, among other this  for email encryption and signing.

Regards

Uwe 
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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 13:07:26 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:

> No sorry this is *not* the problem. I recall we had this discussion and
> you closed a similar bug, because I incorrectly stated it is about smime
> signed messages. It is not.
>
> It is about encrypted+signed non-ascii message.
>
> This is why I needed Jens Lechtenberger to jump in because he is one of
> the few gnus users with a smime certificate.
>
> So in order to reproduce and debug it, I suggest you either 
>
>     1. Get a free smime certificate, there are still some, valid for
>        some month. I could look it up for you.
>
>     2. Or maybe your government provides you with one. This is,
>        surprisingly, what the spanish goverment does, and I use this
>        certificate, among other this  for email encryption and signing.

Oh, yeah, this is now starting to sound vaguely familiar.  :-)

Hm...  I do seem to recall ... getting an smime certificate?  Or did I
just try to and fail?  Er...  If I had gotten a certificate, where would
I have put it?  :-)

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 13:12:42 +0200
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Hm...  I do seem to recall ... getting an smime certificate?  Or did I
> just try to and fail?  Er...  If I had gotten a certificate, where would
> I have put it?  :-)

Found it!

~/Downloads/PKCS12_Credential_larsi <at> gnus.org.zip

I got one from Actalis last October.  So now I just have to read up on
s/mime again, because I've suppressed all knowledge about it half a year
ago...

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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 13:15:12 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
   >> Hm...  I do seem to recall ... getting an smime certificate?  Or did I
   >> just try to and fail?  Er...  If I had gotten a certificate, where would
   >> I have put it?  :-)

   > Found it!

   > ~/Downloads/PKCS12_Credential_larsi <at> gnus.org.zip

   > I got one from Actalis last October.  So now I just have to read up on
   > s/mime again, because I've suppressed all knowledge about it half a year
   > ago...

Is this still valid?

In any case, I presume you are using Linux, sorry GNU/Linux.
You would need gpgsm and then use epa.el
I can send you my configuration if you want.
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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 13:19:03 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
   >> Hm...  I do seem to recall ... getting an smime certificate?  Or did I
   >> just try to and fail?  Er...  If I had gotten a certificate, where would
   >> I have put it?  :-)

   > Found it!

   > ~/Downloads/PKCS12_Credential_larsi <at> gnus.org.zip

   > I got one from Actalis last October.  So now I just have to read up on
   > s/mime again, because I've suppressed all knowledge about it half a year
   > ago...

This is my basic setting (besides having setup gpgsm


(setq message-forward-show-mml 'best)
(epa-file-enable)
(setq epg-debug t)
(setq mm-decrypt-option 'always)
(setq mm-verify-option 'always)
(setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types '("multipart/encrypted" "multipart/signed"))


(setq mml-smime-use 'epg)
(setq mml2015-use 'epg)


(setq epg-gpg-home-directory "/home/oub/.gnupg")
(setq epg-key-id "65AD077A")

(setq mml2015-signers (list "93B61FDD"))
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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 09:29:57 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
   >> Hm...  I do seem to recall ... getting an smime certificate?  Or did I
   >> just try to and fail?  Er...  If I had gotten a certificate, where would
   >> I have put it?  :-)

   > Found it!

   > ~/Downloads/PKCS12_Credential_larsi <at> gnus.org.zip

   > I got one from Actalis last October.  So now I just have to read up on
   > s/mime again, because I've suppressed all knowledge about it half a year
   > ago...

Any progress?
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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:31:20 +0200
OK, I now managed to send an S/MIME part to myself, apparently.  (The
interface isn't very er good -- when I was messing with this and pressed
"cancel" in the pin entry, Message still sent the message...)

In any case, I can't reproduce the bug.  Looks fine to me:

[[S/MIME Signed Part:Good signature from 9BF9CD19B5F45D8C2D0E6DF44A44812B553ACE6D /CN=larsi <at> gnus.org (trust full)]]
This is ánother test.

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[[End of S/MIME Signed Part]]

Here's a part that should be signed -- does it look OK to you?

<#secure method=smime mode=sign>
Here's some non-ASCII: Fóo bár.

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:33:30 +0200
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That didn't work at all?  The entire message has to be signed?  *sigh*

What about this one: Here's sóme nón-ASCII.

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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:35:54 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > OK, I now managed to send an S/MIME part to myself, apparently.  (The
   > interface isn't very er good -- when I was messing with this and pressed
   > "cancel" in the pin entry, Message still sent the message...)

   > In any case, I can't reproduce the bug.  Looks fine to me:

Could you please send me a signed message (the signature includes your
public key), this way we can make experiments.
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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:36:42 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > OK, I now managed to send an S/MIME part to myself, apparently.  (The
   > interface isn't very er good -- when I was messing with this and pressed
   > "cancel" in the pin entry, Message still sent the message...)

   > In any case, I can't reproduce the bug.  Looks fine to me:

   > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Good signature from 9BF9CD19B5F45D8C2D0E6DF44A44812B553ACE6D /CN=larsi <at> gnus.org (trust full)]]
   > This is ánother test.

The point is encrypted+signed mail with other users
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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:43:29 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:

> The point is encrypted+signed mail with other users

Encrypted and signed?  So not just signed?

What's the command to send encrypted+signed, then?  And is it different
when you're sending to somebody else?

This code is a twisty maze...

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:45:32 +0200
Ah, C-c C-m C-e.  And now I can reproduce the bug.  :-)

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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:55:07 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > Ah, C-c C-m C-e.  And now I can reproduce the bug.  :-)

Ok, good ;-)
because I had difficulties obtaining your public key. I am glad that
this is not necessary (because this is the downside of smime, you might
use a certificate whose root certificate is not widely recognised.)

Tell me when you want to do some testing, for which I have to recompile
most likely be GNU emacs.
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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:04:22 +0200
OK, I see what the bug is now -- my previous patch always added a
Content-type header to the decrypted message.  This helped with a test
case I had where the decrypted message didn't have one, and the parsing
failed there.

With the added header, it instead fails if the decrypted message does
already have a Content-type header, as all encrypted messages from
Message has.

So I think the fix here is to just check before adding...  

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:14:32 +0200
OK, this should bow be fixed in Emacs 28.  I think it would make sense
to cherry-pick this for Emacs 27.1; does that look OK with you, Eli?

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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:17:30 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > OK, I see what the bug is now -- my previous patch always added a
   > Content-type header to the decrypted message.  This helped with a test
   > case I had where the decrypted message didn't have one, and the parsing
   > failed there.

   > With the added header, it instead fails if the decrypted message does
   > already have a Content-type header, as all encrypted messages from
   > Message has.

I came that far, then I simply tried not to insert that header but then
I could not encrypt those message, but I don't even understand the whole code.
   > So I think the fix here is to just check before adding...  
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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:19:11 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > OK, this should bow be fixed in Emacs 28.  I think it would make sense
   > to cherry-pick this for Emacs 27.1; does that look OK with you, Eli?

I see, that is in master:
commit 84ec57fe06e187f41a3546131d5dae3b185c3511

I will check that out as fast as possible and report back, thanks for
the fix.
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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:20:47 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:

> I came that far, then I simply tried not to insert that header but then
> I could not encrypt those message, but I don't even understand the whole code.

That's odd, because that code is just used when viewing messages, not
when sending, I think?

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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:28:47 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:
   >> I came that far, then I simply tried not to insert that header but then
   >> I could not encrypt those message, but I don't even understand the whole code.

   > That's odd, because that code is just used when viewing messages, not
   > when sending, I think?

Yeah, but this is some time ago and maybe I did other stuff at the same
time, I cannot recall.
I just pulled and I am now compiling to run some tests.
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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:06:09 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > OK, this should bow be fixed in Emacs 28.  I think it would make sense
   > to cherry-pick this for Emacs 27.1; does that look OK with you, Eli?

I finished compiling your last commit (I wanted to be sure and not just
use that lisp file)

I can read encrypted and signed smime messages without problems. So it
seems to fix that problem I will check later what you did. 

Thanks 
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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:16:51 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:
   >> I came that far, then I simply tried not to insert that header but then
   >> I could not encrypt those message, but I don't even understand the whole code.

   > That's odd, because that code is just used when viewing messages, not
   > when sending, I think?

I think what was my mistake.

I simple took the actual code and 
;; 	  (goto-char (point-min))
;; 	  (insert "Content-type: text/plain\n\n")

While you put
	    (unless (mail-fetch-field "content-type")
	      (goto-char (point-max))
	      (insert "Content-type: text/plain\n\n")))

Which is the right one.

So I only could  code I used to work by basically scrap most of the
changes you did back in August last year.
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: oub <at> mat.ucm.es, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 20:45:46 +0300
> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
> Cc: 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:14:32 +0200
> 
> OK, this should bow be fixed in Emacs 28.  I think it would make sense
> to cherry-pick this for Emacs 27.1; does that look OK with you, Eli?

Yes, thanks.




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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: oub <at> mat.ucm.es, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:39:51 +0200
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> OK, this should bow be fixed in Emacs 28.  I think it would make sense
>> to cherry-pick this for Emacs 27.1; does that look OK with you, Eli?
>
> Yes, thanks.

OK; done.  And with that, I'm closing this bug report, but somebody
should really go through the entire S/MIME setup process in Message,
because it's not at all obvious how all this is supposed to work.  For
instance, bits of the setup defaults to epg, and other bits default to
gpg, meaning that nothing works out of the box.

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To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: oub <at> mat.ucm.es, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:10:59 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

   > Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
   >>> OK, this should bow be fixed in Emacs 28.  I think it would make sense
   >>> to cherry-pick this for Emacs 27.1; does that look OK with you, Eli?
   >> 
   >> Yes, thanks.

   > OK; done.  And with that, I'm closing this bug report, but somebody
   > should really go through the entire S/MIME setup process in Message,
   > because it's not at all obvious how all this is supposed to work.  For
   > instance, bits of the setup defaults to epg, and other bits default to
   > gpg, meaning that nothing works out of the box.

Right, I recall it was a bit of an ordeal to figure it out. I think
either in emacs wiki there is some information (maybe even I added it),
but maybe also in the homepage of the epa author Daiki Ueno I found some
useful information.

Maybe one should add that to info?
I could try to do that in the coming weeks, when I have a bit more time
free, but maybe Lars wants to do that himself, or Daiki Ueno.

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:15:03 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:

> Right, I recall it was a bit of an ordeal to figure it out. I think
> either in emacs wiki there is some information (maybe even I added it),
> but maybe also in the homepage of the epa author Daiki Ueno I found some
> useful information.
>
> Maybe one should add that to info?

I don't think documentation is the real problem here -- these things
should just work without any configuration needed.

For instance, these defaults don't make much sense, I think?

mml-default-encrypt-method => "pgpmime"
mml-smime-use => epg

And where configuration is needed, Emacs should just prompt the user.

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To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:26:45 +0200
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> Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:

> I don't think documentation is the real problem here -- these things
> should just work without any configuration needed.

> For instance, these defaults don't make much sense, I think?

> mml-default-encrypt-method => "pgpmime"
> mml-smime-use => epg

That is true, I have the feeling this is all sort of mixture between
different approaches.


> And where configuration is needed, Emacs should just prompt the user.

In principle, but I also think users don't use smime that much, because
the setup is as you said, cumbersome. I just thought documentation could
help in the meantime (recall that I reported the smime bug, err August
last year).


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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:29:40 +0200
Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:

> In principle, but I also think users don't use smime that much, because
> the setup is as you said, cumbersome. I just thought documentation could
> help in the meantime (recall that I reported the smime bug, err August
> last year).

I've been, like, away.  :-/

Better documentation is also welcome, of course.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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From: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 41659 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#41659: 28.0.50; smime: encryption uses now base64, message
 not readable
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:31:59 +0200
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>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Uwe Brauer <oub <at> mat.ucm.es> writes:
>> In principle, but I also think users don't use smime that much, because
>> the setup is as you said, cumbersome. I just thought documentation could
>> help in the meantime (recall that I reported the smime bug, err August
>> last year).

> I've been, like, away.  :-/

I am glad  you are back. ;-)


> Better documentation is also welcome, of course.

I'll think about it. Your solution is of course much better.
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