Received: (at 42027) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jun 2020 21:40:17 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 24 17:40:17 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39248 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1joD7v-0006ba-7L for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:40:17 -0400 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:43038) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <marinus.savoritias@HIDDEN>) id 1joAkT-0002tQ-O2 for 42027 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:07:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C2C4821E; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:07:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q4Hid9pXBP95; Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:07:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:07:47 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1593025669; bh=BVMCd9YT2E+e0oH0IQKJ2t/WWC7Olnd3vOBtEX8eAIk=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=GYW1f2C1A4FUzuqZqZ+FMJi9kEpyHdDs3Rr+1ZeuS5Fa3K/uMZhU4UWn2bNH6ldCW h0oNo+/7cJtBw4kKP/1BPTgmYufBiHNU3goPX3lIU34jGksUVaZTAHFSkeQ/2rgMFJ bS0/3tUyZBZhtyEkCIyc8AAuJZk0UmfPv86Vtr9m7eFLLyfjn+UtXW2P6LyY8rDL/y XMcFE6Ab7bW3wDBs19t66TMkM+RJvA2pjTwIF1wFbK9JXrWI94CW3zpFJdhzea+RPq pyWZdGPQ/IVDvMd5v6tz1xax/hjQsF4f1wT+IvhCv4YA7GGtPdZR5MagPhQgK2SgB/ 4EW55bpYYqdDA== From: Msavoritias <marinus.savoritias@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#42027: Suggestion for the default search engine in IceCat To: qorg11 <qorg@HIDDEN> Message-Id: <1593025667.3861.3@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <20200623230844.GA16292@satania> References: <RT-Ticket-1544095@HIDDEN> <96d6e923-ec5b-59ea-c382-3730433fd91b@HIDDEN> <rt-4.2.14-7-g171caae-20128-1592930899-1700.1544095-5-0@HIDDEN> <923f8ba9-d937-c4f1-a13f-125f456ff633@HIDDEN> <20200623230844.GA16292@satania> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-h9V+v/JBNIPxIINFB22S" X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: One legitimate complaint about Duckduckgo is that its not fully open source. Its much better that Startpage for sure though. Startpage was aquired by an advertising company a while back: <https://www. 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Its much better that Startpage for sure though. Startpage was aquired by an advertising company a while back: <https://www.startpage.com/privacy-please/company-updates/startpage-and-privacy-one-group> I would go with Searx ideally. But it does need some testing to find an instance that is stable. Marinus On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 01:08, qorg11 <qorg@HIDDEN> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 08:40:45PM +0200, Aaron wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I hope I'm writing to the right address for my search engine >> suggestion >> for IceCat. > I read the startpage.com privacy policy and its pretty good. They > don't even log > the IP addresses. > Searx instances are pretty good. But some of them are kind of > unstable. The one I'm using right > now (<https://searx.privatenet.cf/>) sometimes don't work. I've tried > to use the dysroot searx > instane but I couldn't get good search results with it. > > Is there anything wrong with duckduckgo? > -- > qorg11 > https://qorg11.net <https://qorg11.net/> > https://kill-9.xyz <https://kill-9.xyz/> > https://qorg.kill-9.xyz <https://qorg.kill-9.xyz/> > PGP: 343F C20A 4ACA 62B9, <https://vxempire.xyz/pgp.txt> --=-h9V+v/JBNIPxIINFB22S Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <div id="geary-body" dir="auto"><div>One legitimate complaint about Duckduckgo is that its not fully open source.<div>Its much better that Startpage for sure though. Startpage was aquired by an advertising company a while back:</div><div><a href="https://www.startpage.com/privacy-please/company-updates/startpage-and-privacy-one-group">https://www.startpage.com/privacy-please/company-updates/startpage-and-privacy-one-group</a></div><div><br></div><div>I would go with Searx ideally. But it does need some testing to find an instance that is stable.</div><div><br></div><div>Marinus</div></div></div><div id="geary-quote" dir="auto"><br>On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 01:08, qorg11 <qorg@HIDDEN> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="plaintext" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 08:40:45PM +0200, Aaron wrote: <blockquote> Hi, I hope I'm writing to the right address for my search engine suggestion for IceCat. </blockquote>I read the startpage.com privacy policy and its pretty good. They don't even log the IP addresses. Searx instances are pretty good. But some of them are kind of unstable. The one I'm using right now (<a href="https://searx.privatenet.cf/">https://searx.privatenet.cf/</a>) sometimes don't work. I've tried to use the dysroot searx instane but I couldn't get good search results with it. Is there anything wrong with duckduckgo? <div>-- </div>qorg11 <a href="https://qorg11.net">https://qorg11.net</a> <a href="https://kill-9.xyz">https://kill-9.xyz</a> <a href="https://qorg.kill-9.xyz">https://qorg.kill-9.xyz</a> PGP: 343F C20A 4ACA 62B9, <a href="https://vxempire.xyz/pgp.txt">https://vxempire.xyz/pgp.txt</a> </div></blockquote></div> --=-h9V+v/JBNIPxIINFB22S--
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envelope-from=kontakt@HIDDEN; helo=eastern.birch.relay.mailchannels.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/23 14:40:49 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -30 X-Spam_score: -3.1 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 15:16:43 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Hi, I hope I'm writing to the right address for my search engine suggestion for IceCat. Kind regards Aaron Am 23.06.20 um 18:48 schrieb Craig Topham via RT: > On 2020-06-05 03:39:54, kontakt@HIDDEN wrote: >> Dear Free Software Foundation, >> >> I love the work you're doing and consider it super important! >> I stumbled across the IceCat Browser and noticed duckduckgo being the >> default search engine. Duckduckgo does not collect the data of its >> users, however they put some ads in their search. I want to suggest to >> use https://search.disroot.org/ or other SearX Instances. You can find >> other trade-free search engines here: >> https://www.trade-free.org/directory/?s=search+engine >> > Thank you for writing in and sharing your excitement for free software. You make an excellent observation about Duckduckgo, but the FSF does not manage the Icecat project. I would recommend reaching out to one of Icecat's project mailing lists here: <https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/#lists> > > I hope this helps. > >> Kind regards and keep the good work going :) >> Aaron >> >> >
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