GNU bug report logs - #42401
28.0.50; gnus-slave renamed to gnus-child

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Packages: emacs, gnus;

Reported by: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>

Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 00:57:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: fixed, moreinfo

Found in version 28.0.50

Fixed in version 28.1

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 28.0.50; gnus-slave renamed to gnus-child
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:26:40 +0800
For some reason, gnus-slave has been renamed to gnus-child without
appropriate aliases.  Reacting to the latest ridiculousness occuring in
society is already stupid, but breaking backwards compatibility for them
is even worse.  The term `slave' used in the `gnus-slave' sense has no
connotations towards racism or slavery.  Similarly, the term
`gnus-child' has no connotations towards adult-ism or child
'oppression', if we ever get to that.  Instead of changing things at
random, why don't we just stick with one name that works?  I doubt it's
possible to find any term that doesn't become offensive at one point.

(P.S: I'm asian and I find the face `term-color-yellow' offensive /s)


In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 466, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.98.5, cairo version 1.17.3)
 of 2020-07-14 built on local-build-system
Repository revision: a3f4f737ce2d31b143586ded6697e910248dfb87
Repository branch: mashup
Windowing system distributor 'The GNU project's GTK toolkit.', version 3.98.5
System Description: Fedora 32 (Workstation Edition)




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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: 42401 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bug#42401: 28.0.50; gnus-slave renamed to gnus-child
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:06:46 +0200
Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text
editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:

> For some reason, gnus-slave has been renamed to gnus-child without
> appropriate aliases.

What are the missing aliases?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




Added tag(s) moreinfo. Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 17 Jul 2020 01:28:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #13 received at 42401 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: 42401 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bug#42401: 28.0.50; gnus-slave renamed to gnus-child
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 04:00:14 +0200
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text
> editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> For some reason, gnus-slave has been renamed to gnus-child without
>> appropriate aliases.
>
> What are the missing aliases?

Ah, I see that the invocations I was using for autoloading the aliases
didn't work for interactive commands?  I've now redone this stuff with
just calls to make-obsolete, which seems to work for me.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




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Message #16 received at 42401 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 42401 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#42401: 28.0.50; gnus-slave renamed to gnus-child
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 15:55:44 +0800
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
>
>> Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text
>> editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:
>>
>>> For some reason, gnus-slave has been renamed to gnus-child without
>>> appropriate aliases.
>>
>> What are the missing aliases?
>
> Ah, I see that the invocations I was using for autoloading the aliases
> didn't work for interactive commands?  I've now redone this stuff with
> just calls to make-obsolete, which seems to work for me.

Nice, thanks for fixing the bug, and also thanks for being reasonable.
I've had to deal with 2 projects that broke ABI because of current
events, and refused to fix it.




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Message #19 received at 42401 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: 42401 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#42401: 28.0.50; gnus-slave renamed to gnus-child
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 14:57:53 +0200
Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com> writes:

> Nice, thanks for fixing the bug, and also thanks for being reasonable.

OK; thanks for testing.  I'm now closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




Added tag(s) fixed. Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 17 Jul 2020 12:59:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug marked as fixed in version 28.1, send any further explanations to 42401 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 17 Jul 2020 12:59:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:24:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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