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A couple commands I've tried have failed if the default directory for a
buffer is remote and the server is unreachable. One was list-buffers
when one of my buffers (not the current one) was visiting a remote file
on a server that was down.  The other was cd, when the current default
directory was remote. In both cases, the file-error error ("Timeout
reached") was raised and not trapped. The cd command did not get to the
point of prompting me for a new directory. Stack traces are below. Looks
like a common failure point is calling abbreviate-file-name, which calls
file-name-case-insensitive-p, which under tramp/scp runs remote
commands, or tries to.

While file-name-case-insensitive-p can't guarantee a reasonable answer
in the case of a failed connection, it looks to me like
abbreviate-file-name could probably fail safe by assuming case
sensitivity and continuing on.

I haven't noticed these problems before trying Emacs 27 pretests, but I
may have just gotten lucky.

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (file-error "Timeout reached, see buffer =E2=
=80=98*tramp/scp root@HIDDEN")
  signal(file-error ("Timeout reached, see buffer =E2=80=98*tramp/scp root@=
thomp..."))
  tramp-signal-hook-function(file-error ("Timeout reached, see buffer =E2=
=80=98*tramp/scp root@HIDDEN"))
  signal(file-error ("Timeout reached, see buffer =E2=80=98*tramp/scp root@=
thomp..."))
  tramp-maybe-open-connection((tramp-file-name "scp" "root" nil "[host]" ni=
l "[path]..." nil))
  tramp-send-command((tramp-file-name "scp" "root" nil "[host]" nil "[path]=
..." nil) "test 0 2>/dev/null; echo tramp_exit_status $?")
  tramp-send-command-and-check((tramp-file-name "scp" "root" nil "[host]" n=
il "[path]..." nil) "test 0")
  tramp-get-test-command((tramp-file-name "scp" "root" nil "[host]" nil "[p=
ath]..." nil))
  tramp-run-test("-d" "[scp-path]")
  tramp-sh-handle-file-directory-p("[scp-path]")
  apply(tramp-sh-handle-file-directory-p "[scp-path]")
  tramp-sh-file-name-handler(file-directory-p "[scp-path]")
  apply(tramp-sh-file-name-handler file-directory-p "[scp-path]")
  tramp-file-name-handler(file-directory-p "[scp-path]")
  file-directory-p("[scp-path]")
  apply(file-directory-p "[scp-path]")
  tramp-archive-run-real-handler(file-directory-p ("[scp-path]"))
  tramp-archive-file-name-handler(file-name-case-insensitive-p "[scp-path]"=
)
  file-name-case-insensitive-p("[scp-path]")
  abbreviate-file-name("[scp-path]")
  Buffer-menu--pretty-file-name("[scp-path]")
  list-buffers--refresh(nil #<buffer *scratch*>)
  list-buffers-noselect(nil)
  list-buffers(nil)
  funcall-interactively(list-buffers nil)
  call-interactively(list-buffers nil nil)
  command-execute(list-buffers)

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (file-error "Timeout reached, see buffer =E2=
=80=98*tramp/scp root@HIDDEN")
  signal(file-error ("Timeout reached, see buffer =E2=80=98*tramp/scp root@=
thomp..."))
  tramp-signal-hook-function(file-error ("Timeout reached, see buffer =E2=
=80=98*tramp/scp root@HIDDEN"))
  signal(file-error ("Timeout reached, see buffer =E2=80=98*tramp/scp root@=
thomp..."))
  tramp-maybe-open-connection((tramp-file-name "scp" "root" nil "[host]" ni=
l "[path]..." nil))
  tramp-send-command((tramp-file-name "scp" "root" nil "[host]" nil "[path]=
..." nil) "test 0 2>/dev/null; echo tramp_exit_status $?")
  tramp-send-command-and-check((tramp-file-name "scp" "root" nil "[host]" n=
il "[path]..." nil) "test 0")
  tramp-get-test-command((tramp-file-name "scp" "root" nil "[host]" nil "[p=
ath]..." nil))
  tramp-run-test("-d" "[scp-path]")
  tramp-sh-handle-file-directory-p("[scp-path]")
  apply(tramp-sh-handle-file-directory-p "[scp-path]")
  tramp-sh-file-name-handler(file-directory-p "[scp-path]")
  apply(tramp-sh-file-name-handler file-directory-p "[scp-path]")
  tramp-file-name-handler(file-directory-p "[scp-path]")
  file-directory-p("[scp-path]")
  apply(file-directory-p "[scp-path]")
  tramp-archive-run-real-handler(file-directory-p ("[scp-path]"))
  tramp-archive-file-name-handler(file-name-case-insensitive-p "[scp-path]"=
)
  file-name-case-insensitive-p("[scp-path]")
  abbreviate-file-name("[scp-path]")
  read-file-name-default("Change default directory: " "[scp-path]" "[scp-pa=
th]" t nil file-directory-p)
  read-file-name("Change default directory: " "[scp-path]" "[scp-path]" t n=
il file-directory-p)
  read-directory-name("Change default directory: " "[scp-path]" "[scp-path]=
" t)
  byte-code(... [cd-path default-directory #f(compiled-function () #<byteco=
de 0x1fd5f0c2e0f3>) nil make-byte-code 0 ... vconcat vector [remove-hook mi=
nibuffer-setup-hook] 3 ... [remove-hook minibuffer-setup-hook] add-hook min=
ibuffer-setup-hook parse-colon-path getenv "CDPATH" "./" read-directory-nam=
e "Change default directory: " t] 10)
  call-interactively(cd record nil)
  command-execute(cd record)
  execute-extended-command(nil "cd" "cd")
  funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "cd" "cd")
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil)
  command-execute(execute-extended-command)



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ars)
 of 2019-11-18 built on crash
Repository revision: ed52618e707682e812002c98b99efe4baf43e1ca
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System Description: Fedora 31 (Workstation Edition)

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Tramp: Waiting for prompts from remote shell...failed
Tramp: Opening connection for root@HIDDEN=
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Jim Porter <jporterbugs@HIDDEN> writes:

Hi Jim,

> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 12:45 AM Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@HIDDEN> wrote:
>> Btw, while you're at this: could you have a look on bug#42706? It is
>> related to abbreviate-file-name and Tramp. When it was reported,
>> abbreviate-file-name wasn't handled by Tramp, so nobody did any action
>> :-( But now we have tramp-handle-abbreviate-file-name and could do
>> something, perhaps.
>
> I tried, but wasn't able to reproduce that issue on Emacs 27.2, so
> it's hard to say if things are any better in Emacs 29. I tried by
> starting "emacs -Q", opening a file over Tramp, and then turning off
> my remote device. While I couldn't connect to the remote host anymore
> (as you'd expect), `list-buffers' seemed to work fine, and `cd' showed
> the prompt correctly. Actually trying to change the directory timed
> out, but that's normal.

Well I've tried to reproduce the scenario of the OP with Emacs 27.2,
which wasn't trivial due to missing information. However, the backtraces
show invocation of tramp-archive-file-name-handler, which gave me the
idea, that the OP has applied a remote file name archive, and from
within that the problems happened.

Remote file name archives, handled by Tramp, are possible only on a
local GNU/Linux machine. See the Tramp manual for a description.

In order to reproduce the problem, I have opened a file archive 123.tar
on a remote machine, like

emacs -Q /scp:user@host:tmp/123.tar/

The trailing slash is important. Afterwards, I have disabled the
LAN/WLAN connection of my machine. Then I have called "M-x cd" in that
buffer.

With both Emacs 27.2 and Emacs 29 (from git master) I've got the same
backtrace as reported by the OP. So I guess we have to dig somewhere
else.

> - Jim

Thanks for your investigation, and best regards, Michael.

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