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26.3; project-find-regexp broken in Emacs 26.3

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From: philipk <at> posteo.net (Philip K.)
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 26.3; project-find-regexp broken in Emacs 26.3
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:42:39 +0200

Hi,

after loading project.el into Emacs 26.3, I noticed that
project-find-regexp doesn't work, because the xref--show-xrefs function
has changed it's parameter interpretation. While project.el assumes it
accepts a function, 26.3's Xref assumes it will recieve a list
("xrefs"). There command then fails with a somewhat cryptic error
message, that probably doesn't make sense for Elisp programmers.

I managed to fix this by installing a newer Xref version from ELPA, but
I think this situation should be handled more gracefully. Is there a
reason that project.el doesn't depend on the newer Xref version?


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Message #8 received at 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
To: "Philip K." <philipk <at> posteo.net>, 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: Re: bug#42765: 26.3; project-find-regexp broken in Emacs 26.3
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 04:17:21 +0300

Hi Philip!

On 08.08.2020 19:42, Philip K. wrote:

> after loading project.el into Emacs 26.3, I noticed that
> project-find-regexp doesn't work, because the xref--show-xrefs function
> has changed it's parameter interpretation. While project.el assumes it
> accepts a function, 26.3's Xref assumes it will recieve a list
> ("xrefs"). There command then fails with a somewhat cryptic error
> message, that probably doesn't make sense for Elisp programmers.

Thank you very much for testing this.

> I managed to fix this by installing a newer Xref version from ELPA, but
> I think this situation should be handled more gracefully. Is there a
> reason that project.el doesn't depend on the newer Xref version?

Unfortunately, that would make project.el and xref recursively depend on 
each other. And apparently that would be a problem: 
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-05/msg01615.html

I'm not sure what's the best way to fix this.

Message #11 received at 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: philipk <at> posteo.net (Philip K.)
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Cc: 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joaotavora <at> gmail.com, monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA
Subject: Re: bug#42765: 26.3; project-find-regexp broken in Emacs 26.3
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:46:36 +0200

Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru> writes:

>> I managed to fix this by installing a newer Xref version from ELPA, but
>> I think this situation should be handled more gracefully. Is there a
>> reason that project.el doesn't depend on the newer Xref version?
>
> Unfortunately, that would make project.el and xref recursively depend on 
> each other. And apparently that would be a problem: 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-05/msg01615.html
>
> I'm not sure what's the best way to fix this.

Couldln't Xref be replaced with some other listing interface, like
what occur uses?

Message #14 received at 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
To: "Philip K." <philipk <at> posteo.net>
Cc: 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, joaotavora <at> gmail.com, monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA
Subject: Re: bug#42765: 26.3; project-find-regexp broken in Emacs 26.3
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 13:48:45 +0300

On 10.08.2020 13:46, Philip K. wrote:
> Couldln't Xref be replaced with some other listing interface, like
> what occur uses?

In theory -- yes.

Though Occur would need to be adapted for this to be possible, and I 
probably would enjoy the result less.

Message #17 received at 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Cc: 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, "Philip K." <philipk <at> posteo.net>,
 Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: bug#42765: 26.3; project-find-regexp broken in Emacs 26.3
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 18:58:50 +0100

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 2:17 AM Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru> wrote:
>
> Hi Philip!
>
> On 08.08.2020 19:42, Philip K. wrote:
>
> > after loading project.el into Emacs 26.3, I noticed that
> > project-find-regexp doesn't work, because the xref--show-xrefs function
> > has changed it's parameter interpretation. While project.el assumes it
> > accepts a function, 26.3's Xref assumes it will recieve a list
> > ("xrefs"). There command then fails with a somewhat cryptic error
> > message, that probably doesn't make sense for Elisp programmers.
>
> Thank you very much for testing this.
>
> > I managed to fix this by installing a newer Xref version from ELPA, but
> > I think this situation should be handled more gracefully. Is there a
> > reason that project.el doesn't depend on the newer Xref version?
>
> Unfortunately, that would make project.el and xref recursively depend on
> each other. And apparently that would be a problem:
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-05/msg01615.html
>
> I'm not sure what's the best way to fix this.

Cyclic dependencies are bad in any packaging system. If two packages
depend on each other as a cycle, they are for packaging purposes "the same
package".  So Stefan's suggestion to make a multi-file-package seems
sensible.

The other common way to solve this is to split one of the packages, breaking
the cycle.  Or maybe creating a third "interface" package and adding an
indirection
(not sure if that's what Philip is suggesting).

So there seem to be escape hatches here, the best one is found by looking
exactly at what breaks, what are the external interfaces of each package,
why
and where they _need_ to depend on each other. I'm afraid I don't have time
to do this right  now.

João

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Message #20 received at 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
To: "Philip K." <philipk <at> posteo.net>, 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: Re: bug#42765: 26.3; project-find-regexp broken in Emacs 26.3
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 17:26:37 +0300

On 08.08.2020 19:42, Philip K. wrote:
> I managed to fix this by installing a newer Xref version from ELPA, but
> I think this situation should be handled more gracefully. Is there a
> reason that project.el doesn't depend on the newer Xref version?

I have pushed a fix for, hopefully. Commit 319463920c.

It inverts the dependencies, making xref only depend on project.el 
implicitly, by requiring Emacs >= 26.3, and making it work with the 
older API. And making project depend on the latest xref.

Hopefully this reversal won't create any problems when upgrading.

Message #23 received at 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Cc: 42765 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, "Philip K." <philipk <at> posteo.net>,
 João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: bug#42765: 26.3; project-find-regexp broken in Emacs 26.3
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 05:50:54 -0700

Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru> writes:

> On 08.08.2020 19:42, Philip K. wrote:
>> I managed to fix this by installing a newer Xref version from ELPA, but
>> I think this situation should be handled more gracefully. Is there a
>> reason that project.el doesn't depend on the newer Xref version?
>
> I have pushed a fix for, hopefully. Commit 319463920c.
>
> It inverts the dependencies, making xref only depend on project.el implicitly,
> by requiring Emacs >= 26.3, and making it work with the older API. And making
> project depend on the latest xref.
>
> Hopefully this reversal won't create any problems when upgrading.

So is there anything more to do here, or should this bug be closed?

Message #28 received at 42765-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: "Philip K." <philipk <at> posteo.net>, 42765-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 João Távora <joaotavora <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: bug#42765: 26.3; project-find-regexp broken in Emacs 26.3
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 20:24:24 +0300

On 01.10.2020 15:50, Stefan Kangas wrote:
> Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru> writes:
> 
>> On 08.08.2020 19:42, Philip K. wrote:
>>> I managed to fix this by installing a newer Xref version from ELPA, but
>>> I think this situation should be handled more gracefully. Is there a
>>> reason that project.el doesn't depend on the newer Xref version?
>>
>> I have pushed a fix for, hopefully. Commit 319463920c.
>>
>> It inverts the dependencies, making xref only depend on project.el implicitly,
>> by requiring Emacs >= 26.3, and making it work with the older API. And making
>> project depend on the latest xref.
>>
>> Hopefully this reversal won't create any problems when upgrading.
> 
> So is there anything more to do here, or should this bug be closed?

No further reports, so let's close it, thanks.

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