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Hello!

I added the file gnu/packages/j.scm for a package definition for the J
programming language. I have also written expressions for jqt and the
majority of the J addons, but I thought it made sense to start with
only the base language and repl.

Hopefully nothing is too horribly off about this patch!

Joseph

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On irc, lfam recommended noting that J is implemented in C, so there
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pointing to '~/.guix-profile/share/j/addons' but nckx (irc) mentioned
native-search-paths and an environment variable. By default, J doesn't
use one, but that could be changed by modifying the 'profile.ijs'
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Hi Joseph,

Joseph Novakovich <josephnovakovich@HIDDEN> skribis:

> From 798d0e3c2b635cfe3a936937fd3dd3ea1b8c5812 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Joseph Novakovich <josephnovakovich@HIDDEN>
> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:16:16 -0400
> Subject: [PATCH] gnu: add j version 902.
>
> ---
>  gnu/packages/j.scm | 180 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Sorry for the loooong delay!

A few comments=E2=80=94if needed we can make those changes on your behalf, =
let
us know.

Could you add j.scm to =E2=80=98gnu/local.mk=E2=80=99?

> +    (name "j")
> +    (version "902")
> +    (source
> +     (origin
> +       (method git-fetch)
> +       (uri
> +        (git-reference
> +         (url "https://github.com/jsoftware/jsource")
> +         (commit "59324abbc6c9c3709d39096f5a41e0a4ef28e9f6")))

Why this commit?  If there=E2=80=99s a tag, it would be clearer to refer to=
 the
tag (the =E2=80=98commit=E2=80=99 field can name a tag).

> +    (outputs '("out"))

Unnecessary, you can remove it.

> +     `(#:modules
> +       ((guix build gnu-build-system)
> +        (guix build utils))

Likewise.

> +           (lambda* (#:key inputs outputs #:allow-other-keys)
> +             (let ((jplatform "linux")
> +                   (j64x "j64avx2"))
> +               (chdir "make2")
> +               (system
> +                (format #f
> +                        "jplatform=3D~a j64x=3D~a USE_SLEEF=3D1 ./build_=
jconsole.sh"
> +                        jplatform j64x))

Note that we cannot assume AVX2 support (on x86_64, but especially on
non-Intel platforms).  Can you check this doesn=E2=80=99t create binaries t=
hat
require AVX2?

Also, it would be more robust to replace =E2=80=98system=E2=80=99 by someth=
ing like:

  (Seton "jplatform" "linux")
  (setenv "USE_SLEEF" "1")
  =E2=80=A6
  (invoke "./build_jconsole.sh")

since =E2=80=98invoke=E2=80=99 checks the exit code of the given command.

> +           (lambda* (#:key inputs outputs #:allow-other-keys)
> +             (let* ((bin-out (string-append (assoc-ref %outputs "out") "=
/bin"))
> +                    (share-out (string-append (assoc-ref %outputs "out")
> +                                              "/share/j"))
> +                    (jconsole "jlibrary/bin/jconsole")
> +                    (libj.so  "jlibrary/bin/libj.so"))

I=E2=80=99d omit =E2=80=98-out=E2=80=99 from variable names.

> +    (synopsis "APL Dialect")

What about =E2=80=9CDialect of the APL programming language=E2=80=9D for cl=
arity?

> +    (description "J is a programming language that works with arrays,
> +verbs, adverbs, and conjunctions.  For example, +/x sums array x and
> +/:~x sorts it.")

Please use @code markup for code snippets.  Bonus points if you can
expound a bit!

  https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Synopses-and-Descriptions.html

> +    (license gpl3)))

I confirm that this is =E2=80=9Cversion 3 only=E2=80=9D per =E2=80=98licens=
e.txt=E2=80=99.

Could you send an updated patch?

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.




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Joseph,

Thank you for submitting this!

If I don't point this out then someone else will, so...

Joseph Novakovich =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A
> +(define-public j
> +  (package
> +    (name "j")

...single-letter package names are frowned upon, with =E2=80=98r=E2=80=99 b=
eing a=20
grandfathered exception.

I suggest calling this =E2=80=98j-language=E2=80=99 (or =E2=80=98j-toolchai=
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Joseph,

Thank you for submitting this!

If I don't point this out then someone else will, so...

Joseph Novakovich =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A
> +(define-public j
> +  (package
> +    (name "j")

...single-letter package names are frowned upon, with =E2=80=98r=E2=80=99 b=
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grandfathered exception.

I suggest calling this =E2=80=98j-language=E2=80=99 (or =E2=80=98j-toolchai=
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Hi Joseph,

Did you have a chance to look into it?

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.

Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@HIDDEN> skribis:

> Hi Joseph,
>
> Joseph Novakovich <josephnovakovich@HIDDEN> skribis:
>
>> From 798d0e3c2b635cfe3a936937fd3dd3ea1b8c5812 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> From: Joseph Novakovich <josephnovakovich@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:16:16 -0400
>> Subject: [PATCH] gnu: add j version 902.
>>
>> ---
>>  gnu/packages/j.scm | 180 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Sorry for the loooong delay!
>
> A few comments=E2=80=94if needed we can make those changes on your behalf=
, let
> us know.
>
> Could you add j.scm to =E2=80=98gnu/local.mk=E2=80=99?
>
>> +    (name "j")
>> +    (version "902")
>> +    (source
>> +     (origin
>> +       (method git-fetch)
>> +       (uri
>> +        (git-reference
>> +         (url "https://github.com/jsoftware/jsource")
>> +         (commit "59324abbc6c9c3709d39096f5a41e0a4ef28e9f6")))
>
> Why this commit?  If there=E2=80=99s a tag, it would be clearer to refer =
to the
> tag (the =E2=80=98commit=E2=80=99 field can name a tag).
>
>> +    (outputs '("out"))
>
> Unnecessary, you can remove it.
>
>> +     `(#:modules
>> +       ((guix build gnu-build-system)
>> +        (guix build utils))
>
> Likewise.
>
>> +           (lambda* (#:key inputs outputs #:allow-other-keys)
>> +             (let ((jplatform "linux")
>> +                   (j64x "j64avx2"))
>> +               (chdir "make2")
>> +               (system
>> +                (format #f
>> +                        "jplatform=3D~a j64x=3D~a USE_SLEEF=3D1 ./build=
_jconsole.sh"
>> +                        jplatform j64x))
>
> Note that we cannot assume AVX2 support (on x86_64, but especially on
> non-Intel platforms).  Can you check this doesn=E2=80=99t create binaries=
 that
> require AVX2?
>
> Also, it would be more robust to replace =E2=80=98system=E2=80=99 by some=
thing like:
>
>   (Seton "jplatform" "linux")
>   (setenv "USE_SLEEF" "1")
>   =E2=80=A6
>   (invoke "./build_jconsole.sh")
>
> since =E2=80=98invoke=E2=80=99 checks the exit code of the given command.
>
>> +           (lambda* (#:key inputs outputs #:allow-other-keys)
>> +             (let* ((bin-out (string-append (assoc-ref %outputs "out") =
"/bin"))
>> +                    (share-out (string-append (assoc-ref %outputs "out")
>> +                                              "/share/j"))
>> +                    (jconsole "jlibrary/bin/jconsole")
>> +                    (libj.so  "jlibrary/bin/libj.so"))
>
> I=E2=80=99d omit =E2=80=98-out=E2=80=99 from variable names.
>
>> +    (synopsis "APL Dialect")
>
> What about =E2=80=9CDialect of the APL programming language=E2=80=9D for =
clarity?
>
>> +    (description "J is a programming language that works with arrays,
>> +verbs, adverbs, and conjunctions.  For example, +/x sums array x and
>> +/:~x sorts it.")
>
> Please use @code markup for code snippets.  Bonus points if you can
> expound a bit!
>
>   https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Synopses-and-Descriptions.html
>
>> +    (license gpl3)))
>
> I confirm that this is =E2=80=9Cversion 3 only=E2=80=9D per =E2=80=98lice=
nse.txt=E2=80=99.
>
> Could you send an updated patch?
>
> Thanks,
> Ludo=E2=80=99.




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Has there been any further progress on including J?

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merge 48463 43080
thanks

> Has there been any further progress on including J?
Yes, but that further progress got stalled as well, sadly.  Trying to
resume...






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