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Esteemed maintainers (and contributors),
Attached is a patch which, as far as I can see, should work. But it does
not. I would like to submit it here for review. Please tell me what I am
doing wrong or what I am failing to do, so that I might clean up this patch
and submit a proper one.
1. The problem this patch is trying to solve:
Aegisub (guix install aegisub), as it currently is, does not give any sound
(at least on foreign distros). The terminal output reads as follows, when a
video file (with audio) is added into the program and an attempt is made at
playing it: (Video is added to aegisub by using 'Video > Open Video...')
```
ALSA lib conf.c:3683:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared library
libasound_module_conf_pulse.so
(/gnu/store/zcjdb23gbhl0pcnvvm8rnlprkfl43cv5-alsa-lib-1.2.2/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_conf_pulse.so:
libasound_module_conf_pulse.so: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory)
ALSA lib pcm.c:2642:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
```
The complaint being that it can't find libasound_module_conf_pulse.so. This
.so comes from the guix package `alsa-plugins:pulseaudio`. The /gnu/store
directory for it is something like
/gnu/store/...-alsa-plugins-1.2.2-pulseaudio/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_conf_pulse.so.
However, the .so file is being looked for inside of the /gnu/store path to
alsa-lib
(/gnu/store/...-alsa-lib-1.2.2/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_conf_pulse.so.
2. The Natural Solution:
Since libasound_module_conf_pulse.so is supplied by
`alsa-plugins:pulseaudio`, and the program is looking for it inside the
path to alsa-lib (supplied by `alsa-lib`), union-build is a logical
solution. This is what the patch implements.
3. Problem:
Despite this patch being applied, it continues to look for the .so file
inside the path to alsa-lib and not the union-alsa. What is more, alsa-lib
is not even in the inputs. Only union-alsa is. And yet, it seems to be
trying to use alsa-lib's /gnu/store path, which, the way I see it, violates
guix's functional package management.
4. It's not guix, it's me:
I'm sure this is some mistake on my part. Hence, I submit the diff here for
review.
P. S: The diff has changed a bit because I got this idea of moving
out/lib/alsa-lib/* into out/lib/ just to see if that makes any difference.
Only to realize a little too late that it doesn't. But I send the diff with
those changes included because I didn't stash the previous (cleaner) one.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Esteemed maintainers (and contributors),</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Attached is a patch which, as far as I can see, should work. B=
ut it does not. I would like to submit it here for review. Please tell me w=
hat I am doing wrong or what I am failing to do, so that I might clean up t=
his patch and submit a proper one.</div><div><br></div><div>1. The problem =
this patch is trying to solve:<br></div><div>Aegisub (guix install aegisub)=
, as it currently is, does not give any sound (at least on foreign distros)=
. The terminal output reads as follows, when a video file (with audio) is a=
dded into the program and an attempt is made at playing it: (Video is added=
to aegisub by using 'Video > Open Video...')<br></div><div>```<=
/div><div>ALSA lib conf.c:3683:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared l=
ibrary libasound_module_conf_pulse.so (/gnu/store/zcjdb23gbhl0pcnvvm8rnlprk=
fl43cv5-alsa-lib-1.2.2/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_conf_pulse.so: libasou=
nd_module_conf_pulse.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or di=
rectory)<br>ALSA lib pcm.c:2642:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default=
</div><div>```</div><div>The complaint being that it can't find libasou=
nd_module_conf_pulse.so. This .so comes from the guix package `alsa-plugins=
:pulseaudio`. The /gnu/store directory for it is something like /gnu/store/=
...-alsa-plugins-1.2.2-pulseaudio/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_conf_pulse.=
so. However, the .so file is being looked for inside of the /gnu/store path=
to alsa-lib (/gnu/store/...-alsa-lib-1.2.2/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_c=
onf_pulse.so.</div><div><br></div><div>2. The Natural Solution:</div><div>S=
ince libasound_module_conf_pulse.so is supplied by `alsa-plugins:pulseaudio=
`, and the program is looking for it inside the path to alsa-lib (supplied =
by `alsa-lib`), union-build is a logical solution. This is what the patch i=
mplements.</div><div><br></div><div>3. Problem:</div><div>Despite this patc=
h being applied, it continues to look for the .so file inside the path to a=
lsa-lib and not the union-alsa. What is more, alsa-lib is not even in the i=
nputs. Only union-alsa is. And yet, it seems to be trying to use alsa-lib&#=
39;s /gnu/store path, which, the way I see it, violates guix's function=
al package management.</div><div><br></div><div>4. It's not guix, it=
9;s me:</div><div>I'm sure this is some mistake on my part. Hence, I su=
bmit the diff here for review.</div><div><br></div><div>P. S: The diff has =
changed a bit because I got this idea of moving out/lib/alsa-lib/* into out=
/lib/ just to see if that makes any difference. Only to realize a little to=
o late that it doesn't. But I send the diff with those changes included=
because I didn't stash the previous (cleaner) one.<br></div></div>
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I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build`s the
union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one will see
that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and
lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).
It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
/gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of /gnu/store/union-alsa-package.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If on=
e `guix build`s the union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-bui=
ld, one will see that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.s=
o and lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).</div><div><br></div><div>It's just that=
aegisub seems to be looking from the /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instea=
d of /gnu/store/union-alsa-package.<br></div></div>
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Another information:
I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that
produce sound well, without any issues. They include:
espeak and kdenlive.
Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks using
(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work out
either.
Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and will be
updating this thread should that resolve this issue.
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri <pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN>
wrote:
> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build`s the
> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one will see
> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and
> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).
>
> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of /gnu/store/union-alsa-package.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Another information:</div><div><br></div><div>I have =
other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that produce sound=
well, without any issues. They include:</div><div>espeak and kdenlive.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Also, I did try making the union-build use copies ins=
tead of symlinks using</div><div>(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursivel=
y) but that didn't work out either.</div><div><br></div><div>Now, I'=
;m going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and will be updatin=
g this thread should that resolve this issue.<br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020=
at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN=
om">pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I forgot to mention,=
but the union-build works. If one `guix build`s the union package, and cd =
into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one will see that things are there as =
it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).</div><div>=
<br></div><div>It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the /gnu=
/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of /gnu/store/union-alsa-package.<br></d=
iv></div>
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Hi Prafulla,
Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <pratheblackdiamond=
@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>Another information:
>
>I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that
>produce sound well, without any issues=2E They include:
>espeak and kdenlive=2E
>
>Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks
>using
>(union-build =2E=2E=2E #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work o=
ut
>either=2E
>
>Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and will
>be
>updating this thread should that resolve this issue=2E
>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
><pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom>
>wrote:
>
>> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works=2E If one `guix build`s
>the
>> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/=2E=2E=2E-union-build, one wi=
ll
>see
>> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*=2Eso and
>> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*=2Eso)=2E
>>
>> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
>> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
>/gnu/store/union-alsa-package=2E
>>
I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored: a=
lsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the director=
y where it's been configured (at build time) to look for=2E
On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound=2Econf, =
which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio=2E Maybe you actually want to conf=
igure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file =2Easoundrc:
pcm_type=2Epule {
lib "/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse=
=2Eso"
}
ctl_type=2Epulse {
lib"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse=2E=
so"
}
pcm=2E!default {
type pulse
}
ctl=2E!default {
type pulse
}
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Hi Prafulla,
Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <pratheblackdiamond=
@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>Another information:
>
>I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that
>produce sound well, without any issues=2E They include:
>espeak and kdenlive=2E
>
>Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks
>using
>(union-build =2E=2E=2E #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work o=
ut
>either=2E
>
>Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and will
>be
>updating this thread should that resolve this issue=2E
>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
><pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom>
>wrote:
>
>> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works=2E If one `guix build`s
>the
>> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/=2E=2E=2E-union-build, one wi=
ll
>see
>> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*=2Eso and
>> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*=2Eso)=2E
>>
>> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
>> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
>/gnu/store/union-alsa-package=2E
>>
I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored: a=
lsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the director=
y where it's been configured (at build time) to look for=2E
On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound=2Econf, =
which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio=2E Maybe you actually want to conf=
igure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file =2Easoundrc:
pcm_type=2Epule {
lib "/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse=
=2Eso"
}
ctl_type=2Epulse {
lib"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse=2E=
so"
}
pcm=2E!default {
type pulse
}
ctl=2E!default {
type pulse
}
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So, there were a few issues with my union. I've fixed them. Attached is the
diff as it stands right now.
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Hello Mr. Lepiller,
Thank you for the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this issue.
Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly
patch). I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in general. So,
that's a silver lining.
Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please keep up the
great work!
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Prafulla,
>
> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
> >Another information:
> >
> >I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that
> >produce sound well, without any issues. They include:
> >espeak and kdenlive.
> >
> >Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks
> >using
> >(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work out
> >either.
> >
> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and will
> >be
> >updating this thread should that resolve this issue.
> >
> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
> ><pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build`s
> >the
> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one will
> >see
> >> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and
> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).
> >>
> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.
> >>
>
> I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored:
> alsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the
> directory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for.
>
> On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound.conf,
> which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe you actually want to
> configure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file .asoundrc:
>
> pcm_type.pule {
> lib "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so=
"
> }
>
> ctl_type.pulse {
> lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so"
> }
>
> pcm.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Mr. Lepiller,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank yo=
u for the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this issue. Perhaps I =
get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly patch). I did=
manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in general. So, that's a=
silver lining.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, your work on guix-android se=
ems so very cool! Please keep up the great work!<br></div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2=
020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@HIDDEN" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">julien@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Hi Prafulla,<br>
<br>
Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail.=
com</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>Another information:<br>
><br>
>I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that<br=
>
>produce sound well, without any issues. They include:<br>
>espeak and kdenlive.<br>
><br>
>Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks<b=
r>
>using<br>
>(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work o=
ut<br>
>either.<br>
><br>
>Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and w=
ill<br>
>be<br>
>updating this thread should that resolve this issue.<br>
><br>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri<br>
><<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">p=
ratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build=
`s<br>
>the<br>
>> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one wil=
l<br>
>see<br>
>> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and<br=
>
>> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).<br>
>><br>
>> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the<br>
>> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of<br>
>/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.<br>
>><br>
<br>
I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored: al=
sa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the d=
irectory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for.<br>
<br>
On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound.conf, whi=
ch references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe you actually want to configure=
that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file .asoundrc:<br>
<br>
pcm_type.pule {<br>
=C2=A0 lib "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_=
pulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl_type.pulse {<br>
=C2=A0 lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_p=
ulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
pcm.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
</blockquote></div>
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Hello Mr. Lepiller,
Thank you for the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this issue.
Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly
patch). I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in general. So,
that's a silver lining.
Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please keep up the
great work!
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Prafulla,
>
> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
> >Another information:
> >
> >I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that
> >produce sound well, without any issues. They include:
> >espeak and kdenlive.
> >
> >Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks
> >using
> >(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work out
> >either.
> >
> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and will
> >be
> >updating this thread should that resolve this issue.
> >
> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
> ><pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build`s
> >the
> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one will
> >see
> >> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and
> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).
> >>
> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.
> >>
>
> I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored:
> alsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the
> directory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for.
>
> On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound.conf,
> which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe you actually want to
> configure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file .asoundrc:
>
> pcm_type.pule {
> lib "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so=
"
> }
>
> ctl_type.pulse {
> lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so"
> }
>
> pcm.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Mr. Lepiller,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank yo=
u for the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this issue. Perhaps I =
get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly patch). I did=
manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in general. So, that's a=
silver lining.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, your work on guix-android se=
ems so very cool! Please keep up the great work!<br></div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2=
020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@HIDDEN" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">julien@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Hi Prafulla,<br>
<br>
Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail.=
com</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>Another information:<br>
><br>
>I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that<br=
>
>produce sound well, without any issues. They include:<br>
>espeak and kdenlive.<br>
><br>
>Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks<b=
r>
>using<br>
>(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work o=
ut<br>
>either.<br>
><br>
>Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and w=
ill<br>
>be<br>
>updating this thread should that resolve this issue.<br>
><br>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri<br>
><<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">p=
ratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build=
`s<br>
>the<br>
>> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one wil=
l<br>
>see<br>
>> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and<br=
>
>> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).<br>
>><br>
>> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the<br>
>> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of<br>
>/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.<br>
>><br>
<br>
I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored: al=
sa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the d=
irectory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for.<br>
<br>
On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound.conf, whi=
ch references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe you actually want to configure=
that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file .asoundrc:<br>
<br>
pcm_type.pule {<br>
=C2=A0 lib "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_=
pulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl_type.pulse {<br>
=C2=A0 lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_p=
ulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
pcm.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
</blockquote></div>
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Okay, I think I'm stuck now. lol
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN=
>
wrote:
> Hello Mr. Lepiller,
>
> Thank you for the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this issue.
> Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly
> patch). I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in general. S=
o,
> that's a silver lining.
>
> Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please keep up the
> great work!
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Prafulla,
>>
>> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
>> >Another information:
>> >
>> >I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that
>> >produce sound well, without any issues. They include:
>> >espeak and kdenlive.
>> >
>> >Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks
>> >using
>> >(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work out
>> >either.
>> >
>> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and will
>> >be
>> >updating this thread should that resolve this issue.
>> >
>> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
>> ><pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build`s
>> >the
>> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one will
>> >see
>> >> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and
>> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).
>> >>
>> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
>> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
>> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.
>> >>
>>
>> I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored:
>> alsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the
>> directory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for.
>>
>> On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound.conf,
>> which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe you actually want to
>> configure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file .asoundrc:
>>
>> pcm_type.pule {
>> lib "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.s=
o"
>> }
>>
>> ctl_type.pulse {
>> lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so=
"
>> }
>>
>> pcm.!default {
>> type pulse
>> }
>>
>> ctl.!default {
>> type pulse
>> }
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Okay, I think I'm stuck now. lol</div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN">pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Mr. Lepiller,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for=
the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this issue. Perhaps I get a=
bsolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly patch). I did mana=
ge to learn a bit more about union-builds in general. So, that's a silv=
er lining.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, your work on guix-android seems s=
o very cool! Please keep up the great work!<br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020=
at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@HIDDEN" targe=
t=3D"_blank">julien@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Hi Prafulla,<br>
<br>
Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail.=
com</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>Another information:<br>
><br>
>I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that<br=
>
>produce sound well, without any issues. They include:<br>
>espeak and kdenlive.<br>
><br>
>Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks<b=
r>
>using<br>
>(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work o=
ut<br>
>either.<br>
><br>
>Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and w=
ill<br>
>be<br>
>updating this thread should that resolve this issue.<br>
><br>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri<br>
><<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">p=
ratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build=
`s<br>
>the<br>
>> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one wil=
l<br>
>see<br>
>> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and<br=
>
>> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).<br>
>><br>
>> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the<br>
>> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of<br>
>/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.<br>
>><br>
<br>
I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored: al=
sa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the d=
irectory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for.<br>
<br>
On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound.conf, whi=
ch references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe you actually want to configure=
that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file .asoundrc:<br>
<br>
pcm_type.pule {<br>
=C2=A0 lib "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_=
pulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl_type.pulse {<br>
=C2=A0 lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_p=
ulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
pcm.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>
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Okay, I think I'm stuck now. lol
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN=
>
wrote:
> Hello Mr. Lepiller,
>
> Thank you for the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this issue.
> Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly
> patch). I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in general. S=
o,
> that's a silver lining.
>
> Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please keep up the
> great work!
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Prafulla,
>>
>> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
>> >Another information:
>> >
>> >I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that
>> >produce sound well, without any issues. They include:
>> >espeak and kdenlive.
>> >
>> >Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks
>> >using
>> >(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work out
>> >either.
>> >
>> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and will
>> >be
>> >updating this thread should that resolve this issue.
>> >
>> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
>> ><pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build`s
>> >the
>> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one will
>> >see
>> >> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and
>> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).
>> >>
>> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
>> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
>> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.
>> >>
>>
>> I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored:
>> alsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the
>> directory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for.
>>
>> On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound.conf,
>> which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe you actually want to
>> configure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file .asoundrc:
>>
>> pcm_type.pule {
>> lib "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.s=
o"
>> }
>>
>> ctl_type.pulse {
>> lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so=
"
>> }
>>
>> pcm.!default {
>> type pulse
>> }
>>
>> ctl.!default {
>> type pulse
>> }
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Okay, I think I'm stuck now. lol</div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN">pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Mr. Lepiller,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for=
the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this issue. Perhaps I get a=
bsolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly patch). I did mana=
ge to learn a bit more about union-builds in general. So, that's a silv=
er lining.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, your work on guix-android seems s=
o very cool! Please keep up the great work!<br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020=
at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@HIDDEN" targe=
t=3D"_blank">julien@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Hi Prafulla,<br>
<br>
Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail.=
com</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>Another information:<br>
><br>
>I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that<br=
>
>produce sound well, without any issues. They include:<br>
>espeak and kdenlive.<br>
><br>
>Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks<b=
r>
>using<br>
>(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work o=
ut<br>
>either.<br>
><br>
>Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and w=
ill<br>
>be<br>
>updating this thread should that resolve this issue.<br>
><br>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri<br>
><<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">p=
ratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build=
`s<br>
>the<br>
>> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one wil=
l<br>
>see<br>
>> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and<br=
>
>> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).<br>
>><br>
>> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the<br>
>> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of<br>
>/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.<br>
>><br>
<br>
I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored: al=
sa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the d=
irectory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for.<br>
<br>
On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound.conf, whi=
ch references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe you actually want to configure=
that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file .asoundrc:<br>
<br>
pcm_type.pule {<br>
=C2=A0 lib "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_=
pulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl_type.pulse {<br>
=C2=A0 lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_p=
ulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
pcm.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>
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Hehe, thanks for your interest in guix-android=2E It's not really done yet,=
but I'm very motivated :)=2E It always feels weird when someone on the int=
ernet calls you Mr ^^=2E No need to be so stiff, you can call me "Julien" (=
and I suppose it's the norm to call people by their first name in this kind=
of internet community)=2E
Maybe try to run aegisub with strace -f, you might find out something=2E Y=
ou may have to take a look at alsa's sources to find out how it looks for i=
ts plugins exactly (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or PLUGINDIR)?
Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <pratheblackdiamond=
@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>Okay, I think I'm stuck now=2E lol
>
>
>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri
><pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom>
>wrote:
>
>> Hello Mr=2E Lepiller,
>>
>> Thank you for the tip=2E For the moment, I want to poke around this
>issue=2E
>> Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an
>ugly
>> patch)=2E I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in
>general=2E So,
>> that's a silver lining=2E
>>
>> Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please keep up
>the
>> great work!
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller=2Eeu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Prafulla,
>>>
>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>>> >Another information:
>>> >
>>> >I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix)
>that
>>> >produce sound well, without any issues=2E They include:
>>> >espeak and kdenlive=2E
>>> >
>>> >Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of
>symlinks
>>> >using
>>> >(union-build =2E=2E=2E #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't wo=
rk
>out
>>> >either=2E
>>> >
>>> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and
>will
>>> >be
>>> >updating this thread should that resolve this issue=2E
>>> >
>>> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
>>> ><pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works=2E If one `guix
>build`s
>>> >the
>>> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/=2E=2E=2E-union-build, on=
e
>will
>>> >see
>>> >> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*=2Eso and
>>> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*=2Eso)=2E
>>> >>
>>> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
>>> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
>>> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package=2E
>>> >>
>>>
>>> I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely
>ignored:
>>> alsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the
>>> directory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for=2E
>>>
>>> On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a
>/etc/asound=2Econf,
>>> which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio=2E Maybe you actually want to
>>> configure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file =2Easoundrc:
>>>
>>> pcm_type=2Epule {
>>> lib
>"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse=2Eso"
>>> }
>>>
>>> ctl_type=2Epulse {
>>> =20
>lib"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse=2Es=
o"
>>> }
>>>
>>> pcm=2E!default {
>>> type pulse
>>> }
>>>
>>> ctl=2E!default {
>>> type pulse
>>> }
>>>
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<html><head></head><body>Hehe, thanks for your interest in guix-android=2E =
It's not really done yet, but I'm very motivated :)=2E It always feels weir=
d when someone on the internet calls you Mr ^^=2E No need to be so stiff, y=
ou can call me "Julien" (and I suppose it's the norm to call people by thei=
r first name in this kind of internet community)=2E<br><br>Maybe try to run=
aegisub with strace -f, you might find out something=2E You may have to ta=
ke a look at alsa's sources to find out how it looks for its plugins exactl=
y (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or PLUGINDIR)?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <pratheblac=
kdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 20=
4); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Okay, I think I'm stuck now=2E lol</div><div><br></d=
iv><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <<a href=
=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom">pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom</=
a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0=2E8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Mr=2E Lepiller,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank =
you for the tip=2E For the moment, I want to poke around this issue=2E Perh=
aps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly patch)=
=2E I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in general=2E So, t=
hat's a silver lining=2E</div><div><br></div><div>Also, your work on guix-a=
ndroid seems so very cool! Please keep up the great work!<br></div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, =
Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@lepill=
er=2Eeu" target=3D"_blank">julien@lepiller=2Eeu</a>> wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=2E8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Hi Prafulla,<br>
<br>
Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mail=
to:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gma=
il=2Ecom</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>Another information:<br>
><br>
>I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that<b=
r>
>produce sound well, without any issues=2E They include:<br>
>espeak and kdenlive=2E<br>
><br>
>Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks<=
br>
>using<br>
>(union-build =2E=2E=2E #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't wor=
k out<br>
>either=2E<br>
><br>
>Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and will=
<br>
>be<br>
>updating this thread should that resolve this issue=2E<br>
><br>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri<br>
><<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom" target=3D"_blank=
">pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works=2E If one `guix bu=
ild`s<br>
>the<br>
>> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/=2E=2E=2E-union-build, =
one will<br>
>see<br>
>> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*=2Eso and=
<br>
>> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*=2Eso)=2E<br>
>><br>
>> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the<br>
>> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of<br>
>/gnu/store/union-alsa-package=2E<br>
>><br>
<br>
I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored: a=
lsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the director=
y where it's been configured (at build time) to look for=2E<br>
<br>
On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound=2Econf, =
which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio=2E Maybe you actually want to conf=
igure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file =2Easoundrc:<br>
<br>
pcm_type=2Epule {<br>
lib "/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pu=
lse=2Eso"<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl_type=2Epulse {<br>
lib"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pul=
se=2Eso"<br>
}<br>
<br>
pcm=2E!default {<br>
type pulse<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl=2E!default {<br>
type pulse<br>
}<br>
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</blockquote></div>
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Oh, I come from a culture that does not call seniors by their first names.
(:
Yes! guix-android looks super awesome! I'm glad that you are working on
that. You're awesome.
(Also, I just realized that you've also got guix-home-manager and so many
more cool repositories! I need to check those out, and soon!)
I did manage to resolve this issue. Kinda'. Here:
https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/aegisu=
b.scm
All I had to do was re-define 'alsa-lib' to point to the /gnu/store path of
alsa-plugins. The /gnu/store path had to be figured out during runtime.
Could you please check how this fares in a GuixSD system? If it goes well,
perhaps I should send a patch in for aegisub. But then again, I wonder if I
should make the changes in alsa-lib itself, but I am not very sure about
that.
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 8:20 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> wrote:
> Hehe, thanks for your interest in guix-android. It's not really done yet,
> but I'm very motivated :). It always feels weird when someone on the
> internet calls you Mr ^^. No need to be so stiff, you can call me "Julien=
"
> (and I suppose it's the norm to call people by their first name in this
> kind of internet community).
>
> Maybe try to run aegisub with strace -f, you might find out something. Yo=
u
> may have to take a look at alsa's sources to find out how it looks for it=
s
> plugins exactly (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or PLUGINDIR)?
>
> Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
>>
>> Okay, I think I'm stuck now. lol
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <
>> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Mr. Lepiller,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this issue=
.
>>> Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly
>>> patch). I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in general.=
So,
>>> that's a silver lining.
>>>
>>> Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please keep up the
>>> great work!
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Prafulla,
>>>>
>>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>>>> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
>>>> >Another information:
>>>> >
>>>> >I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that
>>>> >produce sound well, without any issues. They include:
>>>> >espeak and kdenlive.
>>>> >
>>>> >Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks
>>>> >using
>>>> >(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work out
>>>> >either.
>>>> >
>>>> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and wil=
l
>>>> >be
>>>> >updating this thread should that resolve this issue.
>>>> >
>>>> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
>>>> ><pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN>
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build`=
s
>>>> >the
>>>> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one will
>>>> >see
>>>> >> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and
>>>> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
>>>> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
>>>> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>> I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely
>>>> ignored: alsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but =
in
>>>> the directory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for.
>>>>
>>>> On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound.conf=
,
>>>> which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe you actually want to
>>>> configure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file .asoundrc:
>>>>
>>>> pcm_type.pule {
>>>> lib
>>>> "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so"
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> ctl_type.pulse {
>>>>
>>>> lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so=
"
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> pcm.!default {
>>>> type pulse
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> ctl.!default {
>>>> type pulse
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Oh, I come from a culture that does not call seniors =
by their first names. (:</div><div>Yes! guix-android looks super awesome! I=
'm glad that you are working on that. You're awesome.</div><div>(Al=
so, I just realized that you've also got guix-home-manager and so many =
more cool repositories! I need to check those out, and soon!)<br></div><div=
><br></div><div>I did manage to resolve this issue. Kinda'. Here: <a hr=
ef=3D"https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/=
aegisub.scm">https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/=
master/aegisub.scm</a></div><div><br></div><div>All I had to do was re-defi=
ne 'alsa-lib' to point to the /gnu/store path of alsa-plugins. The =
/gnu/store path had to be figured out during runtime.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Could you please check how this fares in a GuixSD system? If it goes we=
ll, perhaps I should send a patch in for aegisub. But then again, I wonder =
if I should make the changes in alsa-lib itself, but I am not very sure abo=
ut that.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 8:20 PM Julien Lepiller <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:julien@HIDDEN">julien@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hehe, thanks for yo=
ur interest in guix-android. It's not really done yet, but I'm very=
motivated :). It always feels weird when someone on the internet calls you=
Mr ^^. No need to be so stiff, you can call me "Julien" (and I s=
uppose it's the norm to call people by their first name in this kind of=
internet community).<br><br>Maybe try to run aegisub with strace -f, you m=
ight find out something. You may have to take a look at alsa's sources =
to find out how it looks for its plugins exactly (maybe try to grep for PLU=
GIN or PLUGINDIR)?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Le 26 septembre 2020 0=
8:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>> a =C3=A9cr=
it :<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Okay, I think I'm stuck now. lol</div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiam=
ond@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Mr. Lepiller,</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Thank you for the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this issu=
e. Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly =
patch). I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in general. So,=
that's a silver lining.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, your work on gu=
ix-android seems so very cool! Please keep up the great work!<br></div></di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On S=
at, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@le=
piller.eu" target=3D"_blank">julien@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Hi Prafulla,<br>
<br>
Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail.=
com</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>Another information:<br>
><br>
>I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that<br=
>
>produce sound well, without any issues. They include:<br>
>espeak and kdenlive.<br>
><br>
>Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks<b=
r>
>using<br>
>(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work o=
ut<br>
>either.<br>
><br>
>Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and w=
ill<br>
>be<br>
>updating this thread should that resolve this issue.<br>
><br>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri<br>
><<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">p=
ratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build=
`s<br>
>the<br>
>> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one wil=
l<br>
>see<br>
>> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and<br=
>
>> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).<br>
>><br>
>> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the<br>
>> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of<br>
>/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.<br>
>><br>
<br>
I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored: al=
sa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the d=
irectory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for.<br>
<br>
On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound.conf, whi=
ch references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe you actually want to configure=
that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file .asoundrc:<br>
<br>
pcm_type.pule {<br>
=C2=A0 lib "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_=
pulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl_type.pulse {<br>
=C2=A0 lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_p=
ulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
pcm.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
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</blockquote></div>
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Thanks! On the guix system, aegisub already works properly (at least it did=
when I last used it), because the alsa config allows it to find pulseaudio=
=2E
There are three issues with your proposed change:
First using derivation-outputs is a bad idea, and it probably only works b=
ecause alsa-plugin doesn't depend on your modified alsa-lib (you'd get an i=
nfinite loop I think)=2E Since alsa-plugin doesn't depend on this modified =
alsa-lib, you don't need such a convoluted work around=2E When defining the=
conhigure flags, you can simply use (assoc-ref %build-inputs "alsa-plugin"=
) when "alsa-plugin" is defined as an input to the package=2E
Second, setting plugindir at build-time is just asking for the same kind o=
f issues you are trying to fix, only for finding another plugin that might =
be needed=2E
Third, the way you modify the arguments is=E2=80=A6 unconventional :) try =
using substitute-keyword-arguments instead=2E There are plenty of examples =
in the repo=2E
I remember having dealt with this issue before, and pushed a patch some 3 =
years ago: http://issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/31239
Could you look at what happened in the meantime? I think it was reverted i=
n favor of the asound=2Econf file we have in the guix system now=2E You mig=
ht learn something if you find the reason why it was changed=2E
Re my other projects, framagit is going to close next year, so I'll be mig=
rating to my own hosting, currently at git=2Elepiller=2Eeu=2E
Ok for the cultural difference=2E It's probably too soon to call me a "sen=
ior" though, I'm still pretty young: only 3 years older than you :p
Le 26 septembre 2020 16:46:50 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <pratheblackdiamond=
@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>Oh, I come from a culture that does not call seniors by their first
>names=2E
>(:
>Yes! guix-android looks super awesome! I'm glad that you are working on
>that=2E You're awesome=2E
>(Also, I just realized that you've also got guix-home-manager and so
>many
>more cool repositories! I need to check those out, and soon!)
>
>I did manage to resolve this issue=2E Kinda'=2E Here:
>https://github=2Ecom/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/ae=
gisub=2Escm
>
>All I had to do was re-define 'alsa-lib' to point to the /gnu/store
>path of
>alsa-plugins=2E The /gnu/store path had to be figured out during runtime=
=2E
>
>Could you please check how this fares in a GuixSD system? If it goes
>well,
>perhaps I should send a patch in for aegisub=2E But then again, I wonder
>if I
>should make the changes in alsa-lib itself, but I am not very sure
>about
>that=2E
>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 8:20 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller=2Eeu>
>wrote:
>
>> Hehe, thanks for your interest in guix-android=2E It's not really done
>yet,
>> but I'm very motivated :)=2E It always feels weird when someone on the
>> internet calls you Mr ^^=2E No need to be so stiff, you can call me
>"Julien"
>> (and I suppose it's the norm to call people by their first name in
>this
>> kind of internet community)=2E
>>
>> Maybe try to run aegisub with strace -f, you might find out
>something=2E You
>> may have to take a look at alsa's sources to find out how it looks
>for its
>> plugins exactly (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or PLUGINDIR)?
>>
>> Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>>>
>>> Okay, I think I'm stuck now=2E lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <
>>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Mr=2E Lepiller,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the tip=2E For the moment, I want to poke around this
>issue=2E
>>>> Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an
>ugly
>>>> patch)=2E I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in
>general=2E So,
>>>> that's a silver lining=2E
>>>>
>>>> Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please keep up
>the
>>>> great work!
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller
><julien@lepiller=2Eeu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Prafulla,
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>>>>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>>>>> >Another information:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix)
>that
>>>>> >produce sound well, without any issues=2E They include:
>>>>> >espeak and kdenlive=2E
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of
>symlinks
>>>>> >using
>>>>> >(union-build =2E=2E=2E #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't =
work
>out
>>>>> >either=2E
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and
>will
>>>>> >be
>>>>> >updating this thread should that resolve this issue=2E
>>>>> >
>>>>> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
>>>>> ><pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom>
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works=2E If one `guix
>build`s
>>>>> >the
>>>>> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/=2E=2E=2E-union-build, =
one
>will
>>>>> >see
>>>>> >> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*=2Eso and
>>>>> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*=2Eso)=2E
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
>>>>> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
>>>>> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package=2E
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely
>>>>> ignored: alsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins,
>but in
>>>>> the directory where it's been configured (at build time) to look
>for=2E
>>>>>
>>>>> On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a
>/etc/asound=2Econf,
>>>>> which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio=2E Maybe you actually want
>to
>>>>> configure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file =2Easoundrc:
>>>>>
>>>>> pcm_type=2Epule {
>>>>> lib
>>>>>
>"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse=2Eso"
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> ctl_type=2Epulse {
>>>>>
>>>>>
>lib"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse=2Es=
o"
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> pcm=2E!default {
>>>>> type pulse
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> ctl=2E!default {
>>>>> type pulse
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>
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<html><head></head><body>Thanks! On the guix system, aegisub already works =
properly (at least it did when I last used it), because the alsa config all=
ows it to find pulseaudio=2E<br><br>There are three issues with your propos=
ed change:<br><br>First using derivation-outputs is a bad idea, and it prob=
ably only works because alsa-plugin doesn't depend on your modified alsa-li=
b (you'd get an infinite loop I think)=2E Since alsa-plugin doesn't depend =
on this modified alsa-lib, you don't need such a convoluted work around=2E =
When defining the conhigure flags, you can simply use (assoc-ref %build-inp=
uts "alsa-plugin") when "alsa-plugin" is defined as an input to the package=
=2E<br><br>Second, setting plugindir at build-time is just asking for the s=
ame kind of issues you are trying to fix, only for finding another plugin t=
hat might be needed=2E<br><br>Third, the way you modify the arguments is=E2=
=80=A6 unconventional :) try using substitute-keyword-arguments instead=2E =
There are plenty of examples in the repo=2E<br><br>I remember having dealt =
with this issue before, and pushed a patch some 3 years ago: <a href=3D"htt=
p://issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/31239">http://issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/31239=
</a><br><br>Could you look at what happened in the meantime? I think it was=
reverted in favor of the asound=2Econf file we have in the guix system now=
=2E You might learn something if you find the reason why it was changed=2E<=
br><br>Re my other projects, framagit is going to close next year, so I'll =
be migrating to my own hosting, currently at git=2Elepiller=2Eeu=2E<br><br>=
Ok for the cultural difference=2E It's probably too soon to call me a "seni=
or" though, I'm still pretty young: only 3 years older than you :p<br><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">Le 26 septembre 2020 16:46:50 GMT-04:00, Prafulla=
Giri <pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :<blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px so=
lid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Oh, I come from a culture that does not call seniors=
by their first names=2E (:</div><div>Yes! guix-android looks super awesome=
! I'm glad that you are working on that=2E You're awesome=2E</div><div>(Als=
o, I just realized that you've also got guix-home-manager and so many more =
cool repositories! I need to check those out, and soon!)<br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>I did manage to resolve this issue=2E Kinda'=2E Here: <a href=3D=
"https://github=2Ecom/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/aeg=
isub=2Escm">https://github=2Ecom/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob=
/master/aegisub=2Escm</a></div><div><br></div><div>All I had to do was re-d=
efine 'alsa-lib' to point to the /gnu/store path of alsa-plugins=2E The /gn=
u/store path had to be figured out during runtime=2E</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Could you please check how this fares in a GuixSD system? If it goes wel=
l, perhaps I should send a patch in for aegisub=2E But then again, I wonder=
if I should make the changes in alsa-lib itself, but I am not very sure ab=
out that=2E<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 8:20 PM Julien Lepiller <<a=
href=3D"mailto:julien@lepiller=2Eeu">julien@lepiller=2Eeu</a>> wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=2E8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hehe, than=
ks for your interest in guix-android=2E It's not really done yet, but I'm v=
ery motivated :)=2E It always feels weird when someone on the internet call=
s you Mr ^^=2E No need to be so stiff, you can call me "Julien" (and I supp=
ose it's the norm to call people by their first name in this kind of intern=
et community)=2E<br><br>Maybe try to run aegisub with strace -f, you might =
find out something=2E You may have to take a look at alsa's sources to find=
out how it looks for its plugins exactly (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or =
PLUGINDIR)?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34=
GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2E=
com" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom</a>> a =C3=A9crit =
:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Okay, I think I'm stuck now=2E lol</div><div><br></d=
iv><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <<a href=
=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdia=
mond@gmail=2Ecom</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=2E8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Mr=2E Lepiller,</div><div><br=
></div><div>Thank you for the tip=2E For the moment, I want to poke around =
this issue=2E Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - a=
nd an ugly patch)=2E I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in=
general=2E So, that's a silver lining=2E</div><div><br></div><div>Also, yo=
ur work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please keep up the great work!<=
br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:julien@lepiller=2Eeu" target=3D"_blank">julien@lepiller=2Eeu</a>> wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
0=2E8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Hi Prafulla,<br>
<br>
Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mail=
to:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gma=
il=2Ecom</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>Another information:<br>
><br>
>I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that<b=
r>
>produce sound well, without any issues=2E They include:<br>
>espeak and kdenlive=2E<br>
><br>
>Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks<=
br>
>using<br>
>(union-build =2E=2E=2E #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't wor=
k out<br>
>either=2E<br>
><br>
>Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and will=
<br>
>be<br>
>updating this thread should that resolve this issue=2E<br>
><br>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri<br>
><<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom" target=3D"_blank=
">pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works=2E If one `guix bu=
ild`s<br>
>the<br>
>> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/=2E=2E=2E-union-build, =
one will<br>
>see<br>
>> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*=2Eso and=
<br>
>> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*=2Eso)=2E<br>
>><br>
>> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the<br>
>> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of<br>
>/gnu/store/union-alsa-package=2E<br>
>><br>
<br>
I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored: a=
lsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the director=
y where it's been configured (at build time) to look for=2E<br>
<br>
On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound=2Econf, =
which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio=2E Maybe you actually want to conf=
igure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file =2Easoundrc:<br>
<br>
pcm_type=2Epule {<br>
lib "/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pu=
lse=2Eso"<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl_type=2Epulse {<br>
lib"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pul=
se=2Eso"<br>
}<br>
<br>
pcm=2E!default {<br>
type pulse<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl=2E!default {<br>
type pulse<br>
}<br>
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First and foremost: wow. A post-doc at just three years older than me.
*cries in high-school drop-out* Super awesome!
I have cleaned up my package definition as per your review:
https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/aegisu=
b.scm
I will look into the matter then. Might take me a while, but I'll try.
It's sad that framagit is closing. I think they were doing a great job with
peertube and all...
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 3:00 AM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> wrote:
> Thanks! On the guix system, aegisub already works properly (at least it
> did when I last used it), because the alsa config allows it to find
> pulseaudio.
>
> There are three issues with your proposed change:
>
> First using derivation-outputs is a bad idea, and it probably only works
> because alsa-plugin doesn't depend on your modified alsa-lib (you'd get a=
n
> infinite loop I think). Since alsa-plugin doesn't depend on this modified
> alsa-lib, you don't need such a convoluted work around. When defining the
> conhigure flags, you can simply use (assoc-ref %build-inputs "alsa-plugin=
")
> when "alsa-plugin" is defined as an input to the package.
>
> Second, setting plugindir at build-time is just asking for the same kind
> of issues you are trying to fix, only for finding another plugin that mig=
ht
> be needed.
>
> Third, the way you modify the arguments is=E2=80=A6 unconventional :) try=
using
> substitute-keyword-arguments instead. There are plenty of examples in the
> repo.
>
> I remember having dealt with this issue before, and pushed a patch some 3
> years ago: http://issues.guix.gnu.org/31239
>
> Could you look at what happened in the meantime? I think it was reverted
> in favor of the asound.conf file we have in the guix system now. You migh=
t
> learn something if you find the reason why it was changed.
>
> Re my other projects, framagit is going to close next year, so I'll be
> migrating to my own hosting, currently at git.lepiller.eu.
>
> Ok for the cultural difference. It's probably too soon to call me a
> "senior" though, I'm still pretty young: only 3 years older than you :p
>
> Le 26 septembre 2020 16:46:50 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
>>
>> Oh, I come from a culture that does not call seniors by their first
>> names. (:
>> Yes! guix-android looks super awesome! I'm glad that you are working on
>> that. You're awesome.
>> (Also, I just realized that you've also got guix-home-manager and so man=
y
>> more cool repositories! I need to check those out, and soon!)
>>
>> I did manage to resolve this issue. Kinda'. Here:
>> https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/aeg=
isub.scm
>>
>> All I had to do was re-define 'alsa-lib' to point to the /gnu/store path
>> of alsa-plugins. The /gnu/store path had to be figured out during runtim=
e.
>>
>> Could you please check how this fares in a GuixSD system? If it goes
>> well, perhaps I should send a patch in for aegisub. But then again, I
>> wonder if I should make the changes in alsa-lib itself, but I am not ver=
y
>> sure about that.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 8:20 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hehe, thanks for your interest in guix-android. It's not really done
>>> yet, but I'm very motivated :). It always feels weird when someone on t=
he
>>> internet calls you Mr ^^. No need to be so stiff, you can call me "Juli=
en"
>>> (and I suppose it's the norm to call people by their first name in this
>>> kind of internet community).
>>>
>>> Maybe try to run aegisub with strace -f, you might find out something.
>>> You may have to take a look at alsa's sources to find out how it looks =
for
>>> its plugins exactly (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or PLUGINDIR)?
>>>
>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>>> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
>>>>
>>>> Okay, I think I'm stuck now. lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <
>>>> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Mr. Lepiller,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this
>>>>> issue. Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - an=
d an
>>>>> ugly patch). I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in
>>>>> general. So, that's a silver lining.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please keep up th=
e
>>>>> great work!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Prafulla,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>>>>>> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
>>>>>> >Another information:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) tha=
t
>>>>>> >produce sound well, without any issues. They include:
>>>>>> >espeak and kdenlive.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlin=
ks
>>>>>> >using
>>>>>> >(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work o=
ut
>>>>>> >either.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> >be
>>>>>> >updating this thread should that resolve this issue.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
>>>>>> ><pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN>
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix
>>>>>> build`s
>>>>>> >the
>>>>>> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one wi=
ll
>>>>>> >see
>>>>>> >> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and
>>>>>> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
>>>>>> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
>>>>>> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely
>>>>>> ignored: alsa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, bu=
t in
>>>>>> the directory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for=
.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a
>>>>>> /etc/asound.conf, which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe yo=
u
>>>>>> actually want to configure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new fil=
e
>>>>>> .asoundrc:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pcm_type.pule {
>>>>>> lib
>>>>>> "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so"
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ctl_type.pulse {
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.=
so"
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pcm.!default {
>>>>>> type pulse
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ctl.!default {
>>>>>> type pulse
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>First and foremost: wow. A post-doc at just three yea=
rs older than me. *cries in high-school drop-out* Super awesome!</div><div>=
<br></div><div>I have cleaned up my package definition as per your review: =
<a href=3D"https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/ma=
ster/aegisub.scm">https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/=
blob/master/aegisub.scm</a></div><div><br></div><div>I will look into the m=
atter then. Might take me a while, but I'll try.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>It's sad that framagit is closing. I think they were doing a great j=
ob with peertube and all...<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 3:00 AM Julien=
Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@HIDDEN">julien@HIDDEN</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>=
Thanks! On the guix system, aegisub already works properly (at least it did=
when I last used it), because the alsa config allows it to find pulseaudio=
.<br><br>There are three issues with your proposed change:<br><br>First usi=
ng derivation-outputs is a bad idea, and it probably only works because als=
a-plugin doesn't depend on your modified alsa-lib (you'd get an inf=
inite loop I think). Since alsa-plugin doesn't depend on this modified =
alsa-lib, you don't need such a convoluted work around. When defining t=
he conhigure flags, you can simply use (assoc-ref %build-inputs "alsa-=
plugin") when "alsa-plugin" is defined as an input to the pa=
ckage.<br><br>Second, setting plugindir at build-time is just asking for th=
e same kind of issues you are trying to fix, only for finding another plugi=
n that might be needed.<br><br>Third, the way you modify the arguments is=
=E2=80=A6 unconventional :) try using substitute-keyword-arguments instead.=
There are plenty of examples in the repo.<br><br>I remember having dealt w=
ith this issue before, and pushed a patch some 3 years ago: <a href=3D"http=
://issues.guix.gnu.org/31239" target=3D"_blank">http://issues.guix.gnu.org/=
31239</a><br><br>Could you look at what happened in the meantime? I think i=
t was reverted in favor of the asound.conf file we have in the guix system =
now. You might learn something if you find the reason why it was changed.<b=
r><br>Re my other projects, framagit is going to close next year, so I'=
ll be migrating to my own hosting, currently at <a href=3D"http://git.lepil=
ler.eu" target=3D"_blank">git.lepiller.eu</a>.<br><br>Ok for the cultural d=
ifference. It's probably too soon to call me a "senior" thoug=
h, I'm still pretty young: only 3 years older than you :p<br><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">Le 26 septembre 2020 16:46:50 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri=
<<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">prat=
heblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Oh, I come from a culture that does not call seniors =
by their first names. (:</div><div>Yes! guix-android looks super awesome! I=
'm glad that you are working on that. You're awesome.</div><div>(Al=
so, I just realized that you've also got guix-home-manager and so many =
more cool repositories! I need to check those out, and soon!)<br></div><div=
><br></div><div>I did manage to resolve this issue. Kinda'. Here: <a hr=
ef=3D"https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/=
aegisub.scm" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/g=
uix-packages/blob/master/aegisub.scm</a></div><div><br></div><div>All I had=
to do was re-define 'alsa-lib' to point to the /gnu/store path of =
alsa-plugins. The /gnu/store path had to be figured out during runtime.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Could you please check how this fares in a GuixSD sys=
tem? If it goes well, perhaps I should send a patch in for aegisub. But the=
n again, I wonder if I should make the changes in alsa-lib itself, but I am=
not very sure about that.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 8:20 PM Julien =
Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">julien=
@lepiller.eu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div>Hehe, thanks for your interest in guix-android. It's n=
ot really done yet, but I'm very motivated :). It always feels weird wh=
en someone on the internet calls you Mr ^^. No need to be so stiff, you can=
call me "Julien" (and I suppose it's the norm to call people=
by their first name in this kind of internet community).<br><br>Maybe try =
to run aegisub with strace -f, you might find out something. You may have t=
o take a look at alsa's sources to find out how it looks for its plugin=
s exactly (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or PLUGINDIR)?<br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a=
href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pratheblack=
diamond@HIDDEN</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Okay, I think I'm stuck now. lol</div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiam=
ond@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Mr. Lepiller,</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Thank you for the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this issu=
e. Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack - and an ugly =
patch). I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds in general. So,=
that's a silver lining.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, your work on gu=
ix-android seems so very cool! Please keep up the great work!<br></div></di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On S=
at, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@le=
piller.eu" target=3D"_blank">julien@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Hi Prafulla,<br>
<br>
Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail.=
com</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>Another information:<br>
><br>
>I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix) that<br=
>
>produce sound well, without any issues. They include:<br>
>espeak and kdenlive.<br>
><br>
>Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of symlinks<b=
r>
>using<br>
>(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't work o=
ut<br>
>either.<br>
><br>
>Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules, and w=
ill<br>
>be<br>
>updating this thread should that resolve this issue.<br>
><br>
>On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri<br>
><<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">p=
ratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix build=
`s<br>
>the<br>
>> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build, one wil=
l<br>
>see<br>
>> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so and<br=
>
>> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).<br>
>><br>
>> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the<br>
>> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of<br>
>/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.<br>
>><br>
<br>
I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely ignored: al=
sa doesn't look in it's current directory for plugins, but in the d=
irectory where it's been configured (at build time) to look for.<br>
<br>
On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a /etc/asound.conf, whi=
ch references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio. Maybe you actually want to configure=
that? Maybe try to copy this to a new file .asoundrc:<br>
<br>
pcm_type.pule {<br>
=C2=A0 lib "/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_=
pulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl_type.pulse {<br>
=C2=A0 lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_p=
ulse.so"<br>
}<br>
<br>
pcm.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
<br>
ctl.!default {<br>
=C2=A0 type pulse<br>
}<br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div>
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Le 27 septembre 2020 01:56:31 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <pratheblackdiamond=
@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>First and foremost: wow=2E A post-doc at just three years older than me=
=2E
>*cries in high-school drop-out* Super awesome!
>
>I have cleaned up my package definition as per your review:
>https://github=2Ecom/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/ae=
gisub=2Escm
>
>I will look into the matter then=2E Might take me a while, but I'll try=
=2E
>
>It's sad that framagit is closing=2E I think they were doing a great job
>with
>peertube and all=2E=2E=2E
Well, it's framasoft, they started so many services that they can't handle=
the load anymore=2E So they've started closing them little by little last =
year=2E Some of them will stay, and others will disappear=2E They never wan=
ted to centralize the web around them, so it's understandable=2E Instead, t=
hey propose other alternatives, they've started the chaton initiative (wher=
e other structures propose the same kind of services, at a smaller scale), =
etc=2E
They're still developping peertube, don't worry about that=2E But they're =
not going to host a public instance=2E Remember they're about 10 volunteers=
and one employee :)
>
>On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 3:00 AM Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller=2Eeu>
>wrote:
>
>> Thanks! On the guix system, aegisub already works properly (at least
>it
>> did when I last used it), because the alsa config allows it to find
>> pulseaudio=2E
>>
>> There are three issues with your proposed change:
>>
>> First using derivation-outputs is a bad idea, and it probably only
>works
>> because alsa-plugin doesn't depend on your modified alsa-lib (you'd
>get an
>> infinite loop I think)=2E Since alsa-plugin doesn't depend on this
>modified
>> alsa-lib, you don't need such a convoluted work around=2E When defining
>the
>> conhigure flags, you can simply use (assoc-ref %build-inputs
>"alsa-plugin")
>> when "alsa-plugin" is defined as an input to the package=2E
>>
>> Second, setting plugindir at build-time is just asking for the same
>kind
>> of issues you are trying to fix, only for finding another plugin that
>might
>> be needed=2E
>>
>> Third, the way you modify the arguments is=E2=80=A6 unconventional :) t=
ry
>using
>> substitute-keyword-arguments instead=2E There are plenty of examples in
>the
>> repo=2E
>>
>> I remember having dealt with this issue before, and pushed a patch
>some 3
>> years ago: http://issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/31239
>>
>> Could you look at what happened in the meantime? I think it was
>reverted
>> in favor of the asound=2Econf file we have in the guix system now=2E Yo=
u
>might
>> learn something if you find the reason why it was changed=2E
>>
>> Re my other projects, framagit is going to close next year, so I'll
>be
>> migrating to my own hosting, currently at git=2Elepiller=2Eeu=2E
>>
>> Ok for the cultural difference=2E It's probably too soon to call me a
>> "senior" though, I'm still pretty young: only 3 years older than you
>:p
>>
>> Le 26 septembre 2020 16:46:50 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>>>
>>> Oh, I come from a culture that does not call seniors by their first
>>> names=2E (:
>>> Yes! guix-android looks super awesome! I'm glad that you are working
>on
>>> that=2E You're awesome=2E
>>> (Also, I just realized that you've also got guix-home-manager and so
>many
>>> more cool repositories! I need to check those out, and soon!)
>>>
>>> I did manage to resolve this issue=2E Kinda'=2E Here:
>>>
>https://github=2Ecom/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/ae=
gisub=2Escm
>>>
>>> All I had to do was re-define 'alsa-lib' to point to the /gnu/store
>path
>>> of alsa-plugins=2E The /gnu/store path had to be figured out during
>runtime=2E
>>>
>>> Could you please check how this fares in a GuixSD system? If it goes
>>> well, perhaps I should send a patch in for aegisub=2E But then again,
>I
>>> wonder if I should make the changes in alsa-lib itself, but I am not
>very
>>> sure about that=2E
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 8:20 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller=2Eeu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hehe, thanks for your interest in guix-android=2E It's not really
>done
>>>> yet, but I'm very motivated :)=2E It always feels weird when someone
>on the
>>>> internet calls you Mr ^^=2E No need to be so stiff, you can call me
>"Julien"
>>>> (and I suppose it's the norm to call people by their first name in
>this
>>>> kind of internet community)=2E
>>>>
>>>> Maybe try to run aegisub with strace -f, you might find out
>something=2E
>>>> You may have to take a look at alsa's sources to find out how it
>looks for
>>>> its plugins exactly (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or PLUGINDIR)?
>>>>
>>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>>>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, I think I'm stuck now=2E lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <
>>>>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Mr=2E Lepiller,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the tip=2E For the moment, I want to poke around this
>>>>>> issue=2E Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack
>- and an
>>>>>> ugly patch)=2E I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds
>in
>>>>>> general=2E So, that's a silver lining=2E
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please keep
>up the
>>>>>> great work!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller
><julien@lepiller=2Eeu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Prafulla,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>>>>>>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>>>>>>> >Another information:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix)
>that
>>>>>>> >produce sound well, without any issues=2E They include:
>>>>>>> >espeak and kdenlive=2E
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of
>symlinks
>>>>>>> >using
>>>>>>> >(union-build =2E=2E=2E #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn'=
t
>work out
>>>>>>> >either=2E
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules,
>and
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> >be
>>>>>>> >updating this thread should that resolve this issue=2E
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
>>>>>>> ><pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom>
>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works=2E If one `guix
>>>>>>> build`s
>>>>>>> >the
>>>>>>> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/=2E=2E=2E-union-build=
,
>one will
>>>>>>> >see
>>>>>>> >> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*=2Eso
>and
>>>>>>> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*=2Eso)=2E
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
>>>>>>> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
>>>>>>> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package=2E
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely
>>>>>>> ignored: alsa doesn't look in it's current directory for
>plugins, but in
>>>>>>> the directory where it's been configured (at build time) to look
>for=2E
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a
>>>>>>> /etc/asound=2Econf, which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio=2E
>Maybe you
>>>>>>> actually want to configure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new
>file
>>>>>>> =2Easoundrc:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pcm_type=2Epule {
>>>>>>> lib
>>>>>>>
>"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse=2Eso"
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ctl_type=2Epulse {
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>lib"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse=2Es=
o"
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pcm=2E!default {
>>>>>>> type pulse
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ctl=2E!default {
>>>>>>> type pulse
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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I see...
Hmm.... I didn't know they were just 11 people.
Anyways, here is something that an ALSA developer told me... I couldn't
make much of it. But Perhaps you could?
The current alsa-lib code uses the RTLD_DI_ORIGIN glibc extension to
> determine the libasound.so path at runtime. The hardcoded path is used on=
ly
> if this mechanism does not work
>
Perhaps you'd like to see our conversation over at GitHub:
https://github.com/alsa-project/alsa-lib/issues/82
You're far more qualified to do this than I am.
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 4:55 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN> wrote:
>
>
> Le 27 septembre 2020 01:56:31 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
> >First and foremost: wow. A post-doc at just three years older than me.
> >*cries in high-school drop-out* Super awesome!
> >
> >I have cleaned up my package definition as per your review:
> >
> https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/aegi=
sub.scm
> >
> >I will look into the matter then. Might take me a while, but I'll try.
> >
> >It's sad that framagit is closing. I think they were doing a great job
> >with
> >peertube and all...
>
> Well, it's framasoft, they started so many services that they can't handl=
e
> the load anymore. So they've started closing them little by little last
> year. Some of them will stay, and others will disappear. They never wante=
d
> to centralize the web around them, so it's understandable. Instead, they
> propose other alternatives, they've started the chaton initiative (where
> other structures propose the same kind of services, at a smaller scale),
> etc.
>
> They're still developping peertube, don't worry about that. But they're
> not going to host a public instance. Remember they're about 10 volunteers
> and one employee :)
>
> >
> >On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 3:00 AM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks! On the guix system, aegisub already works properly (at least
> >it
> >> did when I last used it), because the alsa config allows it to find
> >> pulseaudio.
> >>
> >> There are three issues with your proposed change:
> >>
> >> First using derivation-outputs is a bad idea, and it probably only
> >works
> >> because alsa-plugin doesn't depend on your modified alsa-lib (you'd
> >get an
> >> infinite loop I think). Since alsa-plugin doesn't depend on this
> >modified
> >> alsa-lib, you don't need such a convoluted work around. When defining
> >the
> >> conhigure flags, you can simply use (assoc-ref %build-inputs
> >"alsa-plugin")
> >> when "alsa-plugin" is defined as an input to the package.
> >>
> >> Second, setting plugindir at build-time is just asking for the same
> >kind
> >> of issues you are trying to fix, only for finding another plugin that
> >might
> >> be needed.
> >>
> >> Third, the way you modify the arguments is=E2=80=A6 unconventional :) =
try
> >using
> >> substitute-keyword-arguments instead. There are plenty of examples in
> >the
> >> repo.
> >>
> >> I remember having dealt with this issue before, and pushed a patch
> >some 3
> >> years ago: http://issues.guix.gnu.org/31239
> >>
> >> Could you look at what happened in the meantime? I think it was
> >reverted
> >> in favor of the asound.conf file we have in the guix system now. You
> >might
> >> learn something if you find the reason why it was changed.
> >>
> >> Re my other projects, framagit is going to close next year, so I'll
> >be
> >> migrating to my own hosting, currently at git.lepiller.eu.
> >>
> >> Ok for the cultural difference. It's probably too soon to call me a
> >> "senior" though, I'm still pretty young: only 3 years older than you
> >:p
> >>
> >> Le 26 septembre 2020 16:46:50 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
> >> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
> >>>
> >>> Oh, I come from a culture that does not call seniors by their first
> >>> names. (:
> >>> Yes! guix-android looks super awesome! I'm glad that you are working
> >on
> >>> that. You're awesome.
> >>> (Also, I just realized that you've also got guix-home-manager and so
> >many
> >>> more cool repositories! I need to check those out, and soon!)
> >>>
> >>> I did manage to resolve this issue. Kinda'. Here:
> >>>
> >
> https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/aegi=
sub.scm
> >>>
> >>> All I had to do was re-define 'alsa-lib' to point to the /gnu/store
> >path
> >>> of alsa-plugins. The /gnu/store path had to be figured out during
> >runtime.
> >>>
> >>> Could you please check how this fares in a GuixSD system? If it goes
> >>> well, perhaps I should send a patch in for aegisub. But then again,
> >I
> >>> wonder if I should make the changes in alsa-lib itself, but I am not
> >very
> >>> sure about that.
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 8:20 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@HIDDEN>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hehe, thanks for your interest in guix-android. It's not really
> >done
> >>>> yet, but I'm very motivated :). It always feels weird when someone
> >on the
> >>>> internet calls you Mr ^^. No need to be so stiff, you can call me
> >"Julien"
> >>>> (and I suppose it's the norm to call people by their first name in
> >this
> >>>> kind of internet community).
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe try to run aegisub with strace -f, you might find out
> >something.
> >>>> You may have to take a look at alsa's sources to find out how it
> >looks for
> >>>> its plugins exactly (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or PLUGINDIR)?
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
> >>>> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Okay, I think I'm stuck now. lol
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <
> >>>>> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello Mr. Lepiller,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you for the tip. For the moment, I want to poke around this
> >>>>>> issue. Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good hack
> >- and an
> >>>>>> ugly patch). I did manage to learn a bit more about union-builds
> >in
> >>>>>> general. So, that's a silver lining.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please keep
> >up the
> >>>>>> great work!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller
> ><julien@HIDDEN>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Prafulla,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
> >>>>>>> pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN> a =C3=A9crit :
> >>>>>>> >Another information:
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via guix)
> >that
> >>>>>>> >produce sound well, without any issues. They include:
> >>>>>>> >espeak and kdenlive.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of
> >symlinks
> >>>>>>> >using
> >>>>>>> >(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursively) but that didn't
> >work out
> >>>>>>> >either.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config rules,
> >and
> >>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>> >be
> >>>>>>> >updating this thread should that resolve this issue.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
> >>>>>>> ><pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN>
> >>>>>>> >wrote:
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works. If one `guix
> >>>>>>> build`s
> >>>>>>> >the
> >>>>>>> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/...-union-build,
> >one will
> >>>>>>> >see
> >>>>>>> >> that things are there as it should be (lib/normal-alsa-*.so
> >and
> >>>>>>> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
> >>>>>>> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
> >>>>>>> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think the issue with the union-build is that it is completely
> >>>>>>> ignored: alsa doesn't look in it's current directory for
> >plugins, but in
> >>>>>>> the directory where it's been configured (at build time) to look
> >for.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a
> >>>>>>> /etc/asound.conf, which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio.
> >Maybe you
> >>>>>>> actually want to configure that? Maybe try to copy this to a new
> >file
> >>>>>>> .asoundrc:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> pcm_type.pule {
> >>>>>>> lib
> >>>>>>>
> >"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so"
> >>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ctl_type.pulse {
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so"
> >>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> pcm.!default {
> >>>>>>> type pulse
> >>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ctl.!default {
> >>>>>>> type pulse
> >>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I see...</div><div><br></div><div>Hmm.... I didn'=
t know they were just 11 people.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyways, here is =
something that an ALSA developer told me... I couldn't make much of it.=
But Perhaps you could?</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div>The current alsa-lib code uses the RTLD_DI_ORIGIN g=
libc extension to=20
determine the libasound.so path at runtime. The hardcoded path is used=20
only if this mechanism does not work</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=
Perhaps you'd like to see our conversation over at GitHub: <a href=3D"h=
ttps://github.com/alsa-project/alsa-lib/issues/82">https://github.com/alsa-=
project/alsa-lib/issues/82</a></div><div><br></div><div>You're far more=
qualified to do this than I am.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 4:55 PM J=
ulien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@HIDDEN">julien@HIDDEN=
</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<br>
<br>
Le 27 septembre 2020 01:56:31 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail.=
com</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>First and foremost: wow. A post-doc at just three years older than me.<=
br>
>*cries in high-school drop-out* Super awesome!<br>
><br>
>I have cleaned up my package definition as per your review:<br>
><a href=3D"https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blo=
b/master/aegisub.scm" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.c=
om/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/aegisub.scm</a><br>
><br>
>I will look into the matter then. Might take me a while, but I'll t=
ry.<br>
><br>
>It's sad that framagit is closing. I think they were doing a great =
job<br>
>with<br>
>peertube and all...<br>
<br>
Well, it's framasoft, they started so many services that they can't=
handle the load anymore. So they've started closing them little by lit=
tle last year. Some of them will stay, and others will disappear. They neve=
r wanted to centralize the web around them, so it's understandable. Ins=
tead, they propose other alternatives, they've started the chaton initi=
ative (where other structures propose the same kind of services, at a small=
er scale), etc.<br>
<br>
They're still developping peertube, don't worry about that. But the=
y're not going to host a public instance. Remember they're about 10=
volunteers and one employee :)<br>
<br>
><br>
>On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 3:00 AM Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:j=
ulien@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">julien@HIDDEN</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Thanks! On the guix system, aegisub already works properly (at lea=
st<br>
>it<br>
>> did when I last used it), because the alsa config allows it to fin=
d<br>
>> pulseaudio.<br>
>><br>
>> There are three issues with your proposed change:<br>
>><br>
>> First using derivation-outputs is a bad idea, and it probably only=
<br>
>works<br>
>> because alsa-plugin doesn't depend on your modified alsa-lib (=
you'd<br>
>get an<br>
>> infinite loop I think). Since alsa-plugin doesn't depend on th=
is<br>
>modified<br>
>> alsa-lib, you don't need such a convoluted work around. When d=
efining<br>
>the<br>
>> conhigure flags, you can simply use (assoc-ref %build-inputs<br>
>"alsa-plugin")<br>
>> when "alsa-plugin" is defined as an input to the package=
.<br>
>><br>
>> Second, setting plugindir at build-time is just asking for the sam=
e<br>
>kind<br>
>> of issues you are trying to fix, only for finding another plugin t=
hat<br>
>might<br>
>> be needed.<br>
>><br>
>> Third, the way you modify the arguments is=E2=80=A6 unconventional=
:) try<br>
>using<br>
>> substitute-keyword-arguments instead. There are plenty of examples=
in<br>
>the<br>
>> repo.<br>
>><br>
>> I remember having dealt with this issue before, and pushed a patch=
<br>
>some 3<br>
>> years ago: <a href=3D"http://issues.guix.gnu.org/31239" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://issues.guix.gnu.org/31239</a><br>
>><br>
>> Could you look at what happened in the meantime? I think it was<br=
>
>reverted<br>
>> in favor of the asound.conf file we have in the guix system now. Y=
ou<br>
>might<br>
>> learn something if you find the reason why it was changed.<br>
>><br>
>> Re my other projects, framagit is going to close next year, so I&#=
39;ll<br>
>be<br>
>> migrating to my own hosting, currently at <a href=3D"http://git.le=
piller.eu" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">git.lepiller.eu</a>.<br>
>><br>
>> Ok for the cultural difference. It's probably too soon to call=
me a<br>
>> "senior" though, I'm still pretty young: only 3 year=
s older than you<br>
>:p<br>
>><br>
>> Le 26 septembre 2020 16:46:50 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<br>
>> <a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">=
pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>>><br>
>>> Oh, I come from a culture that does not call seniors by their =
first<br>
>>> names. (:<br>
>>> Yes! guix-android looks super awesome! I'm glad that you a=
re working<br>
>on<br>
>>> that. You're awesome.<br>
>>> (Also, I just realized that you've also got guix-home-mana=
ger and so<br>
>many<br>
>>> more cool repositories! I need to check those out, and soon!)<=
br>
>>><br>
>>> I did manage to resolve this issue. Kinda'. Here:<br>
>>><br>
><a href=3D"https://github.com/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blo=
b/master/aegisub.scm" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.c=
om/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/aegisub.scm</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> All I had to do was re-define 'alsa-lib' to point to t=
he /gnu/store<br>
>path<br>
>>> of alsa-plugins. The /gnu/store path had to be figured out dur=
ing<br>
>runtime.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Could you please check how this fares in a GuixSD system? If i=
t goes<br>
>>> well, perhaps I should send a patch in for aegisub. But then a=
gain,<br>
>I<br>
>>> wonder if I should make the changes in alsa-lib itself, but I =
am not<br>
>very<br>
>>> sure about that.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 8:20 PM Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D=
"mailto:julien@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">julien@HIDDEN</a>><br=
>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Hehe, thanks for your interest in guix-android. It's n=
ot really<br>
>done<br>
>>>> yet, but I'm very motivated :). It always feels weird =
when someone<br>
>on the<br>
>>>> internet calls you Mr ^^. No need to be so stiff, you can =
call me<br>
>"Julien"<br>
>>>> (and I suppose it's the norm to call people by their f=
irst name in<br>
>this<br>
>>>> kind of internet community).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Maybe try to run aegisub with strace -f, you might find ou=
t<br>
>something.<br>
>>>> You may have to take a look at alsa's sources to find =
out how it<br>
>looks for<br>
>>>> its plugins exactly (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or PLUGI=
NDIR)?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <=
;<br>
>>>> <a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=3D"=
_blank">pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Okay, I think I'm stuck now. lol<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <<br>
>>>>> <a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN" target=
=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Hello Mr. Lepiller,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Thank you for the tip. For the moment, I want to p=
oke around this<br>
>>>>>> issue. Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or fi=
nd a good hack<br>
>- and an<br>
>>>>>> ugly patch). I did manage to learn a bit more abou=
t union-builds<br>
>in<br>
>>>>>> general. So, that's a silver lining.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool=
! Please keep<br>
>up the<br>
>>>>>> great work!<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller<br=
>
><<a href=3D"mailto:julien@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">julien@lepi=
ller.eu</a>><br>
>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Hi Prafulla,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafu=
lla Giri <<br>
>>>>>>> <a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN=
" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>>>>>>> >Another information:<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> >I have other programs on my foreign system=
(installed via guix)<br>
>that<br>
>>>>>>> >produce sound well, without any issues. Th=
ey include:<br>
>>>>>>> >espeak and kdenlive.<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> >Also, I did try making the union-build use=
copies instead of<br>
>symlinks<br>
>>>>>>> >using<br>
>>>>>>> >(union-build ... #:symlink copy-recursivel=
y) but that didn't<br>
>work out<br>
>>>>>>> >either.<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixin=
g the pkg-config rules,<br>
>and<br>
>>>>>>> will<br>
>>>>>>> >be<br>
>>>>>>> >updating this thread should that resolve t=
his issue.<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla =
Giri<br>
>>>>>>> ><<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@HIDDEN</a>><br>
>>>>>>> >wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-bu=
ild works. If one `guix<br>
>>>>>>> build`s<br>
>>>>>>> >the<br>
>>>>>>> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/s=
tore/...-union-build,<br>
>one will<br>
>>>>>>> >see<br>
>>>>>>> >> that things are there as it should be=
(lib/normal-alsa-*.so<br>
>and<br>
>>>>>>> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*.so).<br>
>>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> It's just that aegisub seems to b=
e looking from the<br>
>>>>>>> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instea=
d of<br>
>>>>>>> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package.<br>
>>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I think the issue with the union-build is that=
it is completely<br>
>>>>>>> ignored: alsa doesn't look in it's cur=
rent directory for<br>
>plugins, but in<br>
>>>>>>> the directory where it's been configured (=
at build time) to look<br>
>for.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On the Guix System, there is a service that cr=
eates a<br>
>>>>>>> /etc/asound.conf, which references alsa-plugin=
s:pulseaudio.<br>
>Maybe you<br>
>>>>>>> actually want to configure that? Maybe try to =
copy this to a new<br>
>file<br>
>>>>>>> .asoundrc:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> pcm_type.pule {<br>
>>>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0lib<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.s=
o"<br>
>>>>>>> }<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> ctl_type.pulse {<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>lib"/home/foo/.guix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_puls=
e.so"<br>
>>>>>>> }<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> pcm.!default {<br>
>>>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0type pulse<br>
>>>>>>> }<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> ctl.!default {<br>
>>>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0type pulse<br>
>>>>>>> }<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
</blockquote></div>
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Ok, I tgink that means alsa-lib looks for plugins in its rpach, fails to do=
so, tgen fallls back to its hard-coded path, and fails again=2E So if we s=
et the rpath correctly (which we cannot do in a package because it would in=
troduce a cyclic dependency), it can load its plugin=2E
Could you try to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH like so:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=3D<alsa-plugin's pulseaudio output>/lib aegisub
Le 28 septembre 2020 10:43:02 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <pratheblackdiamond=
@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>I see=2E=2E=2E
>
>Hmm=2E=2E=2E=2E I didn't know they were just 11 people=2E
>
>Anyways, here is something that an ALSA developer told me=2E=2E=2E I coul=
dn't
>make much of it=2E But Perhaps you could?
>
>The current alsa-lib code uses the RTLD_DI_ORIGIN glibc extension to
>> determine the libasound=2Eso path at runtime=2E The hardcoded path is
>used only
>> if this mechanism does not work
>>
>
>Perhaps you'd like to see our conversation over at GitHub:
>https://github=2Ecom/alsa-project/alsa-lib/issues/82
>
>You're far more qualified to do this than I am=2E
>
>On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 4:55 PM Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller=2Eeu>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Le 27 septembre 2020 01:56:31 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>> >First and foremost: wow=2E A post-doc at just three years older than
>me=2E
>> >*cries in high-school drop-out* Super awesome!
>> >
>> >I have cleaned up my package definition as per your review:
>> >
>>
>https://github=2Ecom/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/ae=
gisub=2Escm
>> >
>> >I will look into the matter then=2E Might take me a while, but I'll
>try=2E
>> >
>> >It's sad that framagit is closing=2E I think they were doing a great
>job
>> >with
>> >peertube and all=2E=2E=2E
>>
>> Well, it's framasoft, they started so many services that they can't
>handle
>> the load anymore=2E So they've started closing them little by little
>last
>> year=2E Some of them will stay, and others will disappear=2E They never
>wanted
>> to centralize the web around them, so it's understandable=2E Instead,
>they
>> propose other alternatives, they've started the chaton initiative
>(where
>> other structures propose the same kind of services, at a smaller
>scale),
>> etc=2E
>>
>> They're still developping peertube, don't worry about that=2E But
>they're
>> not going to host a public instance=2E Remember they're about 10
>volunteers
>> and one employee :)
>>
>> >
>> >On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 3:00 AM Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller=2Eeu>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks! On the guix system, aegisub already works properly (at
>least
>> >it
>> >> did when I last used it), because the alsa config allows it to
>find
>> >> pulseaudio=2E
>> >>
>> >> There are three issues with your proposed change:
>> >>
>> >> First using derivation-outputs is a bad idea, and it probably only
>> >works
>> >> because alsa-plugin doesn't depend on your modified alsa-lib
>(you'd
>> >get an
>> >> infinite loop I think)=2E Since alsa-plugin doesn't depend on this
>> >modified
>> >> alsa-lib, you don't need such a convoluted work around=2E When
>defining
>> >the
>> >> conhigure flags, you can simply use (assoc-ref %build-inputs
>> >"alsa-plugin")
>> >> when "alsa-plugin" is defined as an input to the package=2E
>> >>
>> >> Second, setting plugindir at build-time is just asking for the
>same
>> >kind
>> >> of issues you are trying to fix, only for finding another plugin
>that
>> >might
>> >> be needed=2E
>> >>
>> >> Third, the way you modify the arguments is=E2=80=A6 unconventional :=
) try
>> >using
>> >> substitute-keyword-arguments instead=2E There are plenty of examples
>in
>> >the
>> >> repo=2E
>> >>
>> >> I remember having dealt with this issue before, and pushed a patch
>> >some 3
>> >> years ago: http://issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/31239
>> >>
>> >> Could you look at what happened in the meantime? I think it was
>> >reverted
>> >> in favor of the asound=2Econf file we have in the guix system now=2E
>You
>> >might
>> >> learn something if you find the reason why it was changed=2E
>> >>
>> >> Re my other projects, framagit is going to close next year, so
>I'll
>> >be
>> >> migrating to my own hosting, currently at git=2Elepiller=2Eeu=2E
>> >>
>> >> Ok for the cultural difference=2E It's probably too soon to call me
>a
>> >> "senior" though, I'm still pretty young: only 3 years older than
>you
>> >:p
>> >>
>> >> Le 26 septembre 2020 16:46:50 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>> >> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>> >>>
>> >>> Oh, I come from a culture that does not call seniors by their
>first
>> >>> names=2E (:
>> >>> Yes! guix-android looks super awesome! I'm glad that you are
>working
>> >on
>> >>> that=2E You're awesome=2E
>> >>> (Also, I just realized that you've also got guix-home-manager and
>so
>> >many
>> >>> more cool repositories! I need to check those out, and soon!)
>> >>>
>> >>> I did manage to resolve this issue=2E Kinda'=2E Here:
>> >>>
>> >
>>
>https://github=2Ecom/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/ae=
gisub=2Escm
>> >>>
>> >>> All I had to do was re-define 'alsa-lib' to point to the
>/gnu/store
>> >path
>> >>> of alsa-plugins=2E The /gnu/store path had to be figured out during
>> >runtime=2E
>> >>>
>> >>> Could you please check how this fares in a GuixSD system? If it
>goes
>> >>> well, perhaps I should send a patch in for aegisub=2E But then
>again,
>> >I
>> >>> wonder if I should make the changes in alsa-lib itself, but I am
>not
>> >very
>> >>> sure about that=2E
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 8:20 PM Julien Lepiller
><julien@lepiller=2Eeu>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hehe, thanks for your interest in guix-android=2E It's not really
>> >done
>> >>>> yet, but I'm very motivated :)=2E It always feels weird when
>someone
>> >on the
>> >>>> internet calls you Mr ^^=2E No need to be so stiff, you can call
>me
>> >"Julien"
>> >>>> (and I suppose it's the norm to call people by their first name
>in
>> >this
>> >>>> kind of internet community)=2E
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Maybe try to run aegisub with strace -f, you might find out
>> >something=2E
>> >>>> You may have to take a look at alsa's sources to find out how it
>> >looks for
>> >>>> its plugins exactly (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or PLUGINDIR)?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>> >>>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Okay, I think I'm stuck now=2E lol
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <
>> >>>>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hello Mr=2E Lepiller,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thank you for the tip=2E For the moment, I want to poke around
>this
>> >>>>>> issue=2E Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or find a good
>hack
>> >- and an
>> >>>>>> ugly patch)=2E I did manage to learn a bit more about
>union-builds
>> >in
>> >>>>>> general=2E So, that's a silver lining=2E
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Also, your work on guix-android seems so very cool! Please
>keep
>> >up the
>> >>>>>> great work!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller
>> ><julien@lepiller=2Eeu>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hi Prafulla,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <
>> >>>>>>> pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :
>> >>>>>>> >Another information:
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >I have other programs on my foreign system (installed via
>guix)
>> >that
>> >>>>>>> >produce sound well, without any issues=2E They include:
>> >>>>>>> >espeak and kdenlive=2E
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >Also, I did try making the union-build use copies instead of
>> >symlinks
>> >>>>>>> >using
>> >>>>>>> >(union-build =2E=2E=2E #:symlink copy-recursively) but that di=
dn't
>> >work out
>> >>>>>>> >either=2E
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing the pkg-config
>rules,
>> >and
>> >>>>>>> will
>> >>>>>>> >be
>> >>>>>>> >updating this thread should that resolve this issue=2E
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla Giri
>> >>>>>>> ><pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom>
>> >>>>>>> >wrote:
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-build works=2E If one
>`guix
>> >>>>>>> build`s
>> >>>>>>> >the
>> >>>>>>> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/store/=2E=2E=2E-union-bu=
ild,
>> >one will
>> >>>>>>> >see
>> >>>>>>> >> that things are there as it should be
>(lib/normal-alsa-*=2Eso
>> >and
>> >>>>>>> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*=2Eso)=2E
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be looking from the
>> >>>>>>> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir instead of
>> >>>>>>> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package=2E
>> >>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I think the issue with the union-build is that it is
>completely
>> >>>>>>> ignored: alsa doesn't look in it's current directory for
>> >plugins, but in
>> >>>>>>> the directory where it's been configured (at build time) to
>look
>> >for=2E
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On the Guix System, there is a service that creates a
>> >>>>>>> /etc/asound=2Econf, which references alsa-plugins:pulseaudio=2E
>> >Maybe you
>> >>>>>>> actually want to configure that? Maybe try to copy this to a
>new
>> >file
>> >>>>>>> =2Easoundrc:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> pcm_type=2Epule {
>> >>>>>>> lib
>> >>>>>>>
>> >"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse=2Es=
o"
>> >>>>>>> }
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ctl_type=2Epulse {
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>>
>>lib"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse=2E=
so"
>> >>>>>>> }
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> pcm=2E!default {
>> >>>>>>> type pulse
>> >>>>>>> }
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ctl=2E!default {
>> >>>>>>> type pulse
>> >>>>>>> }
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>>
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<html><head></head><body>Ok, I tgink that means alsa-lib looks for plugins =
in its rpach, fails to do so, tgen fallls back to its hard-coded path, and =
fails again=2E So if we set the rpath correctly (which we cannot do in a pa=
ckage because it would introduce a cyclic dependency), it can load its plug=
in=2E<br><br>Could you try to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH like so:<br><br>LD_LIBRAR=
Y_PATH=3D<alsa-plugin's pulseaudio output>/lib aegisub<br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">Le 28 septembre 2020 10:43:02 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri =
<pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom> a =C3=A9crit :<blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rg=
b(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I see=2E=2E=2E</div><div><br></div><div>Hmm=2E=2E=2E=
=2E I didn't know they were just 11 people=2E</div><div><br></div><div>Anyw=
ays, here is something that an ALSA developer told me=2E=2E=2E I couldn't m=
ake much of it=2E But Perhaps you could?</div><div><br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=2E8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>The current alsa-lib code uses t=
he RTLD_DI_ORIGIN glibc extension to=20
determine the libasound=2Eso path at runtime=2E The hardcoded path is used=
=20
only if this mechanism does not work</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div=
>Perhaps you'd like to see our conversation over at GitHub: <a href=3D"http=
s://github=2Ecom/alsa-project/alsa-lib/issues/82">https://github=2Ecom/alsa=
-project/alsa-lib/issues/82</a></div><div><br></div><div>You're far more qu=
alified to do this than I am=2E<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 4:55 PM Ju=
lien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:julien@lepiller=2Eeu">julien@lepiller=
=2Eeu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0=2E8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><br>
<br>
Le 27 septembre 2020 01:56:31 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<a href=3D"mail=
to:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gma=
il=2Ecom</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>First and foremost: wow=2E A post-doc at just three years older than m=
e=2E<br>
>*cries in high-school drop-out* Super awesome!<br>
><br>
>I have cleaned up my package definition as per your review:<br>
><a href=3D"https://github=2Ecom/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/=
blob/master/aegisub=2Escm" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://git=
hub=2Ecom/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/aegisub=2Escm</=
a><br>
><br>
>I will look into the matter then=2E Might take me a while, but I'll tr=
y=2E<br>
><br>
>It's sad that framagit is closing=2E I think they were doing a great j=
ob<br>
>with<br>
>peertube and all=2E=2E=2E<br>
<br>
Well, it's framasoft, they started so many services that they can't handle=
the load anymore=2E So they've started closing them little by little last =
year=2E Some of them will stay, and others will disappear=2E They never wan=
ted to centralize the web around them, so it's understandable=2E Instead, t=
hey propose other alternatives, they've started the chaton initiative (wher=
e other structures propose the same kind of services, at a smaller scale), =
etc=2E<br>
<br>
They're still developping peertube, don't worry about that=2E But they're =
not going to host a public instance=2E Remember they're about 10 volunteers=
and one employee :)<br>
<br>
><br>
>On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 3:00 AM Julien Lepiller <<a href=3D"mailto:=
julien@lepiller=2Eeu" target=3D"_blank">julien@lepiller=2Eeu</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Thanks! On the guix system, aegisub already works properly (at le=
ast<br>
>it<br>
>> did when I last used it), because the alsa config allows it to fi=
nd<br>
>> pulseaudio=2E<br>
>><br>
>> There are three issues with your proposed change:<br>
>><br>
>> First using derivation-outputs is a bad idea, and it probably onl=
y<br>
>works<br>
>> because alsa-plugin doesn't depend on your modified alsa-lib (you=
'd<br>
>get an<br>
>> infinite loop I think)=2E Since alsa-plugin doesn't depend on thi=
s<br>
>modified<br>
>> alsa-lib, you don't need such a convoluted work around=2E When de=
fining<br>
>the<br>
>> conhigure flags, you can simply use (assoc-ref %build-inputs<br>
>"alsa-plugin")<br>
>> when "alsa-plugin" is defined as an input to the package=2E<br>
>><br>
>> Second, setting plugindir at build-time is just asking for the sa=
me<br>
>kind<br>
>> of issues you are trying to fix, only for finding another plugin =
that<br>
>might<br>
>> be needed=2E<br>
>><br>
>> Third, the way you modify the arguments is=E2=80=A6 unconventiona=
l :) try<br>
>using<br>
>> substitute-keyword-arguments instead=2E There are plenty of examp=
les in<br>
>the<br>
>> repo=2E<br>
>><br>
>> I remember having dealt with this issue before, and pushed a patc=
h<br>
>some 3<br>
>> years ago: <a href=3D"http://issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/31239" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/31239</a=
><br>
>><br>
>> Could you look at what happened in the meantime? I think it was<b=
r>
>reverted<br>
>> in favor of the asound=2Econf file we have in the guix system now=
=2E You<br>
>might<br>
>> learn something if you find the reason why it was changed=2E<br>
>><br>
>> Re my other projects, framagit is going to close next year, so I'=
ll<br>
>be<br>
>> migrating to my own hosting, currently at <a href=3D"http://git=
=2Elepiller=2Eeu" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">git=2Elepiller=2Eeu<=
/a>=2E<br>
>><br>
>> Ok for the cultural difference=2E It's probably too soon to call =
me a<br>
>> "senior" though, I'm still pretty young: only 3 years older than =
you<br>
>:p<br>
>><br>
>> Le 26 septembre 2020 16:46:50 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri <<br>
>> <a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom" target=3D"_blan=
k">pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>>><br>
>>> Oh, I come from a culture that does not call seniors by their=
first<br>
>>> names=2E (:<br>
>>> Yes! guix-android looks super awesome! I'm glad that you are =
working<br>
>on<br>
>>> that=2E You're awesome=2E<br>
>>> (Also, I just realized that you've also got guix-home-manager=
and so<br>
>many<br>
>>> more cool repositories! I need to check those out, and soon!)=
<br>
>>><br>
>>> I did manage to resolve this issue=2E Kinda'=2E Here:<br>
>>><br>
><a href=3D"https://github=2Ecom/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/=
blob/master/aegisub=2Escm" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://git=
hub=2Ecom/peanutbutterandcrackers/guix-packages/blob/master/aegisub=2Escm</=
a><br>
>>><br>
>>> All I had to do was re-define 'alsa-lib' to point to the /gnu=
/store<br>
>path<br>
>>> of alsa-plugins=2E The /gnu/store path had to be figured out =
during<br>
>runtime=2E<br>
>>><br>
>>> Could you please check how this fares in a GuixSD system? If =
it goes<br>
>>> well, perhaps I should send a patch in for aegisub=2E But the=
n again,<br>
>I<br>
>>> wonder if I should make the changes in alsa-lib itself, but I=
am not<br>
>very<br>
>>> sure about that=2E<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 8:20 PM Julien Lepiller <<a href=
=3D"mailto:julien@lepiller=2Eeu" target=3D"_blank">julien@lepiller=2Eeu</a>=
><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Hehe, thanks for your interest in guix-android=2E It's no=
t really<br>
>done<br>
>>>> yet, but I'm very motivated :)=2E It always feels weird w=
hen someone<br>
>on the<br>
>>>> internet calls you Mr ^^=2E No need to be so stiff, you c=
an call me<br>
>"Julien"<br>
>>>> (and I suppose it's the norm to call people by their firs=
t name in<br>
>this<br>
>>>> kind of internet community)=2E<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Maybe try to run aegisub with strace -f, you might find o=
ut<br>
>something=2E<br>
>>>> You may have to take a look at alsa's sources to find out=
how it<br>
>looks for<br>
>>>> its plugins exactly (maybe try to grep for PLUGIN or PLUG=
INDIR)?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 08:07:34 GMT-04:00, Prafulla Giri &l=
t;<br>
>>>> <a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom" target=
=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom</a>> a =C3=A9crit :<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Okay, I think I'm stuck now=2E lol<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:42 PM Prafulla Giri <<br=
>
>>>>> <a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom" tar=
get=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Hello Mr=2E Lepiller,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Thank you for the tip=2E For the moment, I want t=
o poke around this<br>
>>>>>> issue=2E Perhaps I get absolutely tired of it (or=
find a good hack<br>
>- and an<br>
>>>>>> ugly patch)=2E I did manage to learn a bit more a=
bout union-builds<br>
>in<br>
>>>>>> general=2E So, that's a silver lining=2E<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Also, your work on guix-android seems so very coo=
l! Please keep<br>
>up the<br>
>>>>>> great work!<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 3:28 PM Julien Lepiller<b=
r>
><<a href=3D"mailto:julien@lepiller=2Eeu" target=3D"_blank">julien@l=
epiller=2Eeu</a>><br>
>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Hi Prafulla,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Le 26 septembre 2020 03:31:38 GMT-04:00, Praf=
ulla Giri <<br>
>>>>>>> <a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2E=
com" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom</a>> a =C3=A9crit =
:<br>
>>>>>>> >Another information:<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> >I have other programs on my foreign syste=
m (installed via guix)<br>
>that<br>
>>>>>>> >produce sound well, without any issues=2E=
They include:<br>
>>>>>>> >espeak and kdenlive=2E<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> >Also, I did try making the union-build us=
e copies instead of<br>
>symlinks<br>
>>>>>>> >using<br>
>>>>>>> >(union-build =2E=2E=2E #:symlink copy-rec=
ursively) but that didn't<br>
>work out<br>
>>>>>>> >either=2E<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> >Now, I'm going to take a look at fixing t=
he pkg-config rules,<br>
>and<br>
>>>>>>> will<br>
>>>>>>> >be<br>
>>>>>>> >updating this thread should that resolve =
this issue=2E<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 12:21 PM Prafulla=
Giri<br>
>>>>>>> ><<a href=3D"mailto:pratheblackdiamond@=
gmail=2Ecom" target=3D"_blank">pratheblackdiamond@gmail=2Ecom</a>><br>
>>>>>>> >wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> >> I forgot to mention, but the union-b=
uild works=2E If one `guix<br>
>>>>>>> build`s<br>
>>>>>>> >the<br>
>>>>>>> >> union package, and cd into the /gnu/=
store/=2E=2E=2E-union-build,<br>
>one will<br>
>>>>>>> >see<br>
>>>>>>> >> that things are there as it should b=
e (lib/normal-alsa-*=2Eso<br>
>and<br>
>>>>>>> >> lib/alsa-lib/*pulse*=2Eso)=2E<br>
>>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> It's just that aegisub seems to be l=
ooking from the<br>
>>>>>>> >> /gnu/store/normal-alsa-lib-dir inste=
ad of<br>
>>>>>>> >/gnu/store/union-alsa-package=2E<br>
>>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I think the issue with the union-build is tha=
t it is completely<br>
>>>>>>> ignored: alsa doesn't look in it's current di=
rectory for<br>
>plugins, but in<br>
>>>>>>> the directory where it's been configured (at =
build time) to look<br>
>for=2E<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On the Guix System, there is a service that c=
reates a<br>
>>>>>>> /etc/asound=2Econf, which references alsa-plu=
gins:pulseaudio=2E<br>
>Maybe you<br>
>>>>>>> actually want to configure that? Maybe try to=
copy this to a new<br>
>file<br>
>>>>>>> =2Easoundrc:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> pcm_type=2Epule {<br>
>>>>>>> lib<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse=2Es=
o"<br>
>>>>>>> }<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> ctl_type=2Epulse {<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>lib"/home/foo/=2Eguix-profile/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse=
=2Eso"<br>
>>>>>>> }<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> pcm=2E!default {<br>
>>>>>>> type pulse<br>
>>>>>>> }<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> ctl=2E!default {<br>
>>>>>>> type pulse<br>
>>>>>>> }<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
</blockquote></div>
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Is this a duplicate of #40832, "alsa-lib cannot find its plugins"?
https://bugs.gnu.org/40832
The patch I submitted in that bug ticket does work. I haven't found the
energy to perform a final review of the C code.
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