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When calling

      (select-frame-set-input-focus some-frame)

the frame is raised, but does not recieve the focus. I have to call 
twice to 'select-frame-set-input-focus' for the frame to get
focused. Docs says "focused if possible", so I am not sure if it some
bug or/and how much does it depend on my window manager used; but
calling it twice consecutively works.

I have attached an example code. To reproduce, emacs -Q, an eval
attached code.

If I missunderstand docs, or am calling it wrongly, dissregard the
rapport plz :-).


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;;; poor-man-menu.el ---                                 -*- lexical-binding: t; -*-

(defun pm-test ()
  (interactive)
  (let ((test (get-buffer "testmenu")))
    (when (not test)
      (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create "testmenu")
        (insert "one")
        (newline)
        (insert "two")
        (newline)
        (insert "three")
        (newline)
        (insert "four"))))
  (pm-show-at-point "testmenu"))

(define-minor-mode pm-minor-mode
  :keymap (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
            map))

(defun pm-quit ()
  (interactive)
  (let ((b (window-buffer)))
        (when b (kill-buffer b)))
  (delete-frame (selected-frame)))

(defun pm-show-at-point (menuname)
  (let ((position (pos-visible-in-window-p nil nil t)))
      (pm-create-menu menuname (nth 0 position) (nth 1 position))))

(defun pm-show-at-cursor (menuname)
  (let ((cursor-pos (mouse-pixel-position)))
        (pm-create-menu menuname (cadr cursor-pos) (cddr cursor-pos))))
    
(defun pm-create-menu (menuname x y)

  (when (not (get-buffer menuname))
    (pm-load-menu menuname))
  
  (with-current-buffer (get-buffer menuname)
    (pm-minor-mode)
    (define-key pm-minor-mode-map (kbd "C-g")   'pm-quit)

    (setq tab-line-format nil)
    (setq mode-line-format nil)
    
    (let ((parent (selected-frame))
          (child-frame (make-frame   '((visible . 0)
                                       (undecorated . 0)
                                       (keep-ratio . t)
                                       (menu-bar-lines . 0)
                                       (tool-bar-lines . 0)
                                       (left-fringe . 0)
                                       (right-fringe . 0)
                                       (line-spacing . 0)
                                       (unsplittable . t)
                                       (minibuffer . nil)
                                       (no-other-frame . t)
                                       (drag-internal-border . t)
                                       (inhibit-double-buffering . t)
                                       (desktop-dont-save . t)))))
      
      (set-frame-parameter child-frame 'parent-frame parent)
      (fit-frame-to-buffer child-frame)
      (set-frame-position child-frame x y)
      ;;(raise-frame child-frame)
      ;; needs two calls to get raised AND focused
      (select-frame-set-input-focus child-frame)
      (select-frame-set-input-focus child-frame))))

(provide 'poor-man-menu)

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In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.23, cairo version 1.17.3)
 of 2020-09-27 built on pascal
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Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@HIDDEN> writes:

> When calling
>
>       (select-frame-set-input-focus some-frame)
>
> the frame is raised, but does not recieve the focus.


[...]

> (define-minor-mode pm-minor-mode
>   :keymap (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
>             map))

This isn't valid (lacks a doc string), but after fixing it, I'm unable
to reproduce the bug?  I think?  At least my frame lost focus, but the
other frame never really appeared in any visible sense.

It did something really weird to my Gnome Shell desktop -- even after
closing the Emacs that opened the frames, Gnome Shell insists that
they're there, but not responding.

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Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:

> Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> When calling
>>
>>       (select-frame-set-input-focus some-frame)
>>
>> the frame is raised, but does not recieve the focus.
>
>
> [...]
>
>> (define-minor-mode pm-minor-mode
>>   :keymap (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)))
>>             map))
>
> This isn't valid (lacks a doc string),
Ah, ok; It was just a quickie to let me close menu without M-x
delete-frame when I test.

> but after fixing it, I'm unable
> to reproduce the bug?  I think?  At least my frame lost focus, but the
> other frame never really appeared in any visible sense. Can
it be it just ended somewhere outside the screen?

Did you run via the "test" function (pm-test)? It should take pixel
coordinate of the point and try to place the frame at those coords.

> It did something really weird to my Gnome Shell desktop -- even after
> closing the Emacs that opened the frames, Gnome Shell insists that
> they're there, but not responding.
That sounds really weird. The code does notthing special; it just
creates a child frame, and tries to display a buffer in it.

On my machine (I use Compiz as WM), it displays properly, either at
point or cursor. It is just that focus does not get transfered as
advertised (as I understand it).

Thanks for looking at it.

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Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@HIDDEN> writes:

> Can it be it just ended somewhere outside the screen?

It's possible.

> Did you run via the "test" function (pm-test)? It should take pixel
> coordinate of the point and try to place the frame at those coords.

Yes, I did M-x pm-test.

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Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:

> Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@HIDDEN> writes:
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>> Can it be it just ended somewhere outside the screen?
>
> It's possible.

I usually click somewhere in the middle of the screen in Emacs when I
test :-). The code is just a rough scatch, I was just playing with an
idea to see if it could work. You can also try to change the test
function to pm-show-at-cursor, and just have the cursor somewhere in the
window. 

>> Did you run via the "test" function (pm-test)? It should take pixel
>> coordinate of the point and try to place the frame at those coords.
>
> Yes, I did M-x pm-test.
I can't tell, if it has something to do with Gnome shell; I don't have
it installed myself; but than it is probably a bug? Emacs should display
and kill child frames correctly regardless of the window manager.

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 > When calling
 >
 >        (select-frame-set-input-focus some-frame)
 >
 > the frame is raised, but does not recieve the focus. I have to call
 > twice to 'select-frame-set-input-focus' for the frame to get
 > focused. Docs says "focused if possible", so I am not sure if it some
 > bug or/and how much does it depend on my window manager used; but
 > calling it twice consecutively works.
 >
 > I have attached an example code. To reproduce, emacs -Q, an eval
 > attached code.

These two settings don't make much sense

           (child-frame (make-frame   '((visible . 0)
                                        (undecorated . 0)

For the moment let's stick to the simpler

(defvar child-frame nil)

(defun make-child-frame ()
   (interactive)
   (setq child-frame
	(make-frame `((parent-frame . ,(selected-frame))
		      (left . 10)
		      (top . 10)
		      (width . 20)
		      (height . 10))))
   (select-frame-set-input-focus child-frame))

(defun delete-child-frame ()
   (interactive)
   (delete-frame child-frame))

If you call 'make-child-frame', does the child frame get selected?

If not, we have to try some workaround, maybe a (sit-for 0) before the
'select-frame-set-input-focus' call.

martin

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 > It did something really weird to my Gnome Shell desktop -- even after
 > closing the Emacs that opened the frames, Gnome Shell insists that
 > they're there, but not responding.

Maybe the child frame 1-to-1 covers its parent.  Either way Gnome Shell
(mutter) doesn't like child frames.

martin

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Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@HIDDEN> writes:

> I can't tell, if it has something to do with Gnome shell; I don't have
> it installed myself; but than it is probably a bug? Emacs should display
> and kill child frames correctly regardless of the window manager.

Indeed.  After closing the other windows here, I saw that the frames
were sitting in the background, but with no way to interact with them.
(Even after the Emacs process was long gone.)  This has to be a bug in
Gnome Shell, but it means that I can't debug the reported error here, so
somebody else will have to look at it.

-- 
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 > Indeed.  After closing the other windows

"windows"?

 > here, I saw that the frames
 > were sitting in the background, but with no way to interact with them.
 > (Even after the Emacs process was long gone.)  This has to be a bug in
 > Gnome Shell, but it means that I can't debug the reported error here, so
 > somebody else will have to look at it.

Have you tried with the simpler scenario I posted?

In either case, with xfwm here the child frame gets selected as
expected.

martin

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martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Indeed.  After closing the other windows
>
> "windows"?

Yes, like the Firefox window.  :-)

>> here, I saw that the frames
>> were sitting in the background, but with no way to interact with them.
>> (Even after the Emacs process was long gone.)  This has to be a bug in
>> Gnome Shell, but it means that I can't debug the reported error here, so
>> somebody else will have to look at it.
>
> Have you tried with the simpler scenario I posted?

Nope.

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martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes:

>> Indeed.  After closing the other windows
>
> "windows"?
>
>> here, I saw that the frames
>> were sitting in the background, but with no way to interact with them.
>> (Even after the Emacs process was long gone.)  This has to be a bug in
>> Gnome Shell, but it means that I can't debug the reported error here, so
>> somebody else will have to look at it.
>
> Have you tried with the simpler scenario I posted?
>
> In either case, with xfwm here the child frame gets selected as
> expected.
>
> martin

I can't say why, but today this works fine with my "normal emacs"; with
all packages loaded and running as server/client.

When I start with emacs -Q then it does not work; it needs two calls to
select-frame-set-input-focus.

I thought it might have something to do with focus and how WM raises
windows and gives focus; normally I have focus follow mouse but not auto
raising enabled. I have disabled auto-focus (need click into window to
give focus) but I see no difference in behaviour.

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 > I can't say why, but today this works fine with my "normal emacs"; with
 > all packages loaded and running as server/client.
 >
 > When I start with emacs -Q then it does not work; it needs two calls to
 > select-frame-set-input-focus.

That is, you can interleave normal and -Q sessions and in the normal
session "this works" and in the -Q session it doesn't?  Then I'm afraid
that you have to bisect the things you do in your normal session to find
out what makes "this work".

 > I thought it might have something to do with focus and how WM raises
 > windows and gives focus; normally I have focus follow mouse but not auto
 > raising enabled. I have disabled auto-focus (need click into window to
 > give focus) but I see no difference in behaviour.

By design, auto-focus should only affect mouse movements.  One recurring
problem is, however, whether the WM should auto-move the mouse pointer
to a freshly displayed window in order to make sure that if the mouse
pointer was located on another window, that window would not regain
focus immediately due to your auto-focus settings.  Note that that
window _should_ retain focus when you specified 'no-focus-on-map' for
the new frame but IIUC you did not do that.

martin

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martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes:

>> I can't say why, but today this works fine with my "normal emacs"; with
>> all packages loaded and running as server/client.
>>
>> When I start with emacs -Q then it does not work; it needs two calls to
>> select-frame-set-input-focus.
>
> That is, you can interleave normal and -Q sessions and in the normal
> session "this works" and in the -Q session it doesn't?  Then I'm afraid
> that you have to bisect the things you do in your normal session to find
> out what makes "this work".
I just did; seems it has something with server/client to do.

It works in emacsclient; not when running as ordinary process. Tryed
both as emacs -Q, and with my init file.

>> I thought it might have something to do with focus and how WM raises
>> windows and gives focus; normally I have focus follow mouse but not auto
>> raising enabled. I have disabled auto-focus (need click into window to
>> give focus) but I see no difference in behaviour.
>
> By design, auto-focus should only affect mouse movements.  One recurring
> problem is, however, whether the WM should auto-move the mouse pointer
> to a freshly displayed window in order to make sure that if the mouse
> pointer was located on another window, that window would not regain
> focus immediately due to your auto-focus settings.  Note that that
> window _should_ retain focus when you specified 'no-focus-on-map' for
> the new frame but IIUC you did not do that.
In Compiz; the newly created window does get focus, but the mouse is not
moved; if mouse is noved then focus switches again; but this did not
spooked. It seems that it has something to do if it is emacs or
emacsclient.

I don't know how emacsclient works; maybe it just does not pass all
requests to the server correctly?

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