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27.1; Info about key used to invoke a command

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From: dalanicolai <at> gmail.com
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.1; Info about key used to invoke a command
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:14:33 +0200

This is just a documentation improvement suggestion.

I was looking for a way to retrieve from within a certain command
information about the key-binding that invoked it. Because I thought
it was quite hard to find, I would suggest that adding in the
information about interactive code character 'e' (in Section '21.2.2
Code Characters for interactive') a reference to the 'this-command-
keys` function in section '21.5 Information from the Command Loop'
would be a very welcome improvement.

Something like the text:
To get information about they key-sequence that invoked a certain
command see [link to this-command-keys].

It would be great b.t.w. if detection of key-release events could be
detected by Emacs (GUI) (and maybe pass info about the event similar to
how
interactive character 'e' passes info about events to a command). From
interacive character 'k' it seems that Emacs alreay 'secretly'
differentiates between key up and down events.


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Message #8 received at 44135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: dalanicolai <at> gmail.com
Cc: 44135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44135: 27.1; Info about key used to invoke a command
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 22:39:45 +0100

dalanicolai <at> gmail.com writes:

> I was looking for a way to retrieve from within a certain command
> information about the key-binding that invoked it. Because I thought
> it was quite hard to find, I would suggest that adding in the
> information about interactive code character 'e' (in Section '21.2.2
> Code Characters for interactive') a reference to the 'this-command-
> keys` function in section '21.5 Information from the Command Loop'
> would be a very welcome improvement.

I don't think that's a very logical cross reference to add -- I would
never look at the documentation of the interactive spec if I wondered
what keystrokes had executed a command.  And I think it's documented in
a pretty logical place already, so I'm closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #15 received at 44135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: dalanicolai <dalanicolai <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 44135 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44135: 27.1; Info about key used to invoke a command
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 00:51:39 +0100

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Well as someone new to Emacs, who did not read the full elisp manual yet, I
thought it was somewhat logical because, as far as I am aware, the
interactive spec is the place to look for how to handle mouse (click)
events. I thought it might be non-expert friendly to just guide newcomers
to the right place for the case of keyboard event (as it really is not very
straightforward to find if you do not know what you are looking for). I am
certainly no expert, but I have published a toc-mode package on Melpa, and
hacked a pdf-continuous-scroll package, but I still had never heard of the
command loop. Anyway, I trust you made the right judgement. Thanks of
course for your reply.

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