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Just tell me if it is a joke that gnus is described this way.

gnus 5.13 built-in Identifying spam (this description is not
reasonable and also not user friendly)

Another issue, Org is described as:

org 9.3 built-in Export Framework for Org Mode

Then if I click on org I can get description about Org mode. It is
definitely confusing, as it is either export framework for Org Mode or
Org mode.



In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 18, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.12, cairo version 1.14.8)
 of 2020-10-14 built on protected.rcdrun.com
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Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> writes:

> Just tell me if it is a joke that gnus is described this way.
>
> gnus 5.13 built-in Identifying spam

The description comes from spam.el:

./spam.el:1:;;; spam.el --- Identifying spam

> Another issue, Org is described as:
>
> org 9.3 built-in Export Framework for Org Mode

This description comes from ox.el

./ox.el:1:;;; ox.el --- Export Framework for Org Mode [...]

> Then if I click on org I can get description about Org mode. It is
> definitely confusing, as it is either export framework for Org Mode or
> Org mode.

This can be seen in `list-packages', or by evaluating
`(assq 'org package--builtins)'.

This is due to `finder-compile-keywords' that creates the file
lisp/finder-inf.el, and it seems like this bug was introduced by commit
851535f587:

  commit 851535f58745dcfbc8798b3a34b4fea852f93a3e
  Author: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>
  Date:   Sat Jul 6 18:42:02 2019 -0400

      * lisp/emacs-lisp/nadvice.el: Make it a package separate from `emacs`.

      * lisp/finder.el (finder-compile-keywords): Grab version from
      package--builtin-versions when available.

It makes "(or (eq base-name package) version)" below that always be
true, and so we use whatever file comes alphabetically last as the name
of a package (above, that happens to be "spam.el" and "ox.el").

Reverting the above commit fixes this issue here.

I'm not sure how best to fix this without breaking something else.
Perhaps Stefan M has an idea?




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>> Just tell me if it is a joke that gnus is described this way.
>> gnus 5.13 built-in Identifying spam
> The description comes from spam.el:
> ./spam.el:1:;;; spam.el --- Identifying spam

But why is it put under the name "gnus"?

>> Another issue, Org is described as:
>> org 9.3 built-in Export Framework for Org Mode
> This description comes from ox.el
> ./ox.el:1:;;; ox.el --- Export Framework for Org Mode [...]

Similarly, why is it put under the name "org"?

>   commit 851535f58745dcfbc8798b3a34b4fea852f93a3e
>   Author: Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>
>   Date:   Sat Jul 6 18:42:02 2019 -0400
>
>       * lisp/emacs-lisp/nadvice.el: Make it a package separate from `emacs`.
>
>       * lisp/finder.el (finder-compile-keywords): Grab version from
>       package--builtin-versions when available.
>
> It makes "(or (eq base-name package) version)" below that always be true,

I don't understand why it does that.

> Reverting the above commit fixes this issue here.

I get the impression that there's some other underlying problem.

> I'm not sure how best to fix this without breaking something else.
> Perhaps Stefan M has an idea?

I don't understand this code enough to give much guidance, I'm afraid.


        Stefan





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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN> writes:

>>> Just tell me if it is a joke that gnus is described this way.
>>> gnus 5.13 built-in Identifying spam
>> The description comes from spam.el:
>> ./spam.el:1:;;; spam.el --- Identifying spam
>
> But why is it put under the name "gnus"?
[...]
> Similarly, why is it put under the name "org"?

See my analysis below.

>>       * lisp/finder.el (finder-compile-keywords): Grab version from
>>       package--builtin-versions when available.
>>
>> It makes "(or (eq base-name package) version)" below that always be true,
>
> I don't understand why it does that.

The reason is that the local variable `version' is now always set for
any file belonging to a built-in package.  From your patch:

	    (setq version (or (ignore-errors (version-to-list version))
                              (alist-get package package--builtin-versions)))

We decide if a file belongs to a package based on if it is in a
directory, so for any file "org/*.el" the local `package' variable will
be the symbol `org'.

A few lines down, we do this:

		  ;; The idea here is that eg calc.el gets to define
		  ;; the description of the calc package.
		  ;; This does not work for eg nxml-mode.el.
		  ((or (eq base-name package) version)
		   (setq desc (cdr entry))
		   (aset desc 0 version)
		   (aset desc 2 summary)))

So, for example, we evaluate (or (eq base-name package) version) for
"ox.el" with the following variables:

    base-name:  'org
    package:    'ox
    version:    (alist-get 'org package--builtin-versions) => (9 3)

So `version' is set for all files "org/*.el", and the package
description will now be set to whatever is used in "ox.el" (since it is
the last file alphabetically).

>> Reverting the above commit fixes this issue here.
>
> I get the impression that there's some other underlying problem.
>
>> I'm not sure how best to fix this without breaking something else.
>> Perhaps Stefan M has an idea?
>
> I don't understand this code enough to give much guidance, I'm afraid.

I also feel a bit stuck...




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> We decide if a file belongs to a package based on if it is in a
> directory, so for any file "org/*.el" the local `package' variable will
> be the symbol `org'.

And here again, I wonder why.  Isn't it the source of our problems?


        Stefan






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