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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Oh, `image-save'! No, that can't be deprecated. > > Maybe we should remove the key binding from `image-mode' though? > Or is it useful in `image-mode' [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44172 Cc: 49347 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 44172 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes: > >> Oh, `image-save'! No, that can't be deprecated. > > Maybe we should remove the key binding from `image-mode' though? > Or is it useful in `image-mode' buffers? It's not very useful in `image-mode' buffers, but it's nice for consistency, perhaps? I think whenever you see an image in Emacs, you should be able to interact with it that way. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Content preview: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes: >>> In the short-term, I think `image-mode' should stop pretending it can >>> edit images by making `image-save' into an obsolete alias for >>> `write-file'. >> >> Yup. > > Oops, this doesn't actually [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44172 Cc: 44172 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes: >>> In the short-term, I think `image-mode' should stop pretending it can >>> edit images by making `image-save' into an obsolete alias for >>> `write-file'. >> >> Yup. > > Oops, this doesn't actually work though, does it? For example, > `image-save' is also what gives us a command to save images in eww. Oh, `image-save'! No, that can't be deprecated. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> writes: > In the short-term, I think `image-mode' should stop pretending it can > edit images by making `image-save' into an obsolete alias for > `write-file'. Yup. 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Yup. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Alan Third <alan@HIDDEN> writes: > Are you talking about using an image spec that we use to display > images, which can already include rotation and resizing? Yes. 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Yes. > That would be difficult because the stored image data doesn't have > those transformations applied, unless you're using imagemagick. We'd > have to draw it to a buffer (either on-screen or off) and then read > back that data. But it's the untransformed data that we'd want here, so that sounds great to me. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > Doesn't svg.el come close enough? Not really -- if you have an image you've cropped, you can certainly write it out as .svg, but it'd be huge. Then PPM would be preferable. But neither are much good, in general. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44172 Cc: 44172 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > Doesn't svg.el come close enough? Not really -- if you have an image you've cropped, you can certainly write it out as .svg, but it'd be huge. Then PPM would be preferable. But neither are much good, in general. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: There's been some discussion off-list about adding simple image manipulation functions to Emacs, and there's really only three transforms that are in scope for Emacs: Cropping, rotating and resizing. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@HIDDEN; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) There's been some discussion off-list about adding simple image manipulation functions to Emacs, and there's really only three transforms that are in scope for Emacs: Cropping, rotating and resizing. Now, there are packages out there that allow doing this, but they rely on external programs to actually do the image wrangling. I wondered what it would take to make it possible to do this in-Emacs, and I think we basically have all the needed stuff -- we just need to hook it up and make it available. 1) Making image data available to Emacs Lisp. This is something that I've often wanted for other reasons -- I want to know how an SVG was rendered, for instance (especially when doing font-based stuff), and there's no way to actually tell. So I think Emacs should have a function like (export-image-data IMAGE &rest SPECS) that will just take the image cache data for IMAGE (or the frame specified by SPECS, if multi-frame) and dump the RGB(A) data into the current buffer (which should be unibyte, for efficiency), and return a plist of width/height/bytes-per-pixel/rgb(a) ordering. This is basically the PPM binary format, but without the heading. This allows us to do easy transforms like cropping and rotating from Lisp, too. 2) Create image files. But mogrifying images is all well and good, but if we can't save the data, it's not much use. Of course we could just save the data as PPM, but that's not very helpful. So Emacs needs to be able to write image files... which sounds like a big thing, but it isn't really: As long as we can save .jpeg and .png files, that's fine. Fortunately, Emacs links with libpng and libjpeg already, so adding a (encode-image-data TYPE) function is less work than it would seem. In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 124, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.23, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2020-10-22 built on xo Repository revision: 954a4decfcc8e41084789516773b22d0adc11d91 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12008000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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