Received: (at 44186) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Oct 2020 09:19:57 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 27 05:19:57 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42889 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kXL93-0006E6-3I for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 05:19:57 -0400 Received: from mailrelay.tugraz.at ([129.27.2.202]:13111) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <leo.prikler@HIDDEN>) id 1kXL91-0006Dx-3I for 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 05:19:56 -0400 Received: from nijino.local (217-149-162-161.nat.highway.telekom.at [217.149.162.161]) by mailrelay.tugraz.at (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CL5kv4qwNz3wWP; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 10:19:51 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tugraz.at; s=mailrelay; t=1603790391; bh=5GzEpsIFeK6t+Vdj/2VsRqBbV6XdmdxB8QvfwP0XpyY=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=iZcyCrdEeYnutKbHq18MntKwBgNeYd4f4O7Dm1t2aikLwj9mZlGDw1Cf46gl1EhHu BPa+ssLoiAGwJ9E1n6M8vJzExf4KFFsuNmV75dGvcuM8V8R22zrLniGAgfm2txsMGx t5itT3HknTWBt7+9AKS1tXIK2qZ4HnuALk0tU3N8= Message-ID: <e4dc1cfef4da3e35e73fc00129b2f1be68fd9e55.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#44186: Recursive mkdir From: Leo Prikler <leo.prikler@HIDDEN> To: divoplade <d@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 10:19:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: <064c08f86112e49533000738aa01f98314d3b08b.camel@HIDDEN> References: <bd53a1745b20615c2c1bb9ada1e57eebfe7c1ef6.camel@HIDDEN> <064c08f86112e49533000738aa01f98314d3b08b.camel@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-TUG-Backscatter-control: bt4lQm5Tva3SBgCuw0EnZw X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.003001 X-Spam-Score-relay: -1.9 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 on 129.27.10.117 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44186 Cc: 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hello, Am Dienstag, den 27.10.2020, 08:01 +0100 schrieb divoplade: > I think I have made my point for the second commit. I intend this > change to be user-centric: it would be better to confuse the > developer > of a guile program than the user of said program. Anyway, this will > not > confuse anyone because creating the directory is not the default > behavior. I am very not pleased with this distinction of "user" and "developer". Even assuming there is some, it would be wiser not to confuse the latter, as then they can assure on their own terms, that the former won't be confused either. When you've reached the point, where "even" the latter can't tell you what exactly will happen, how exactly are you going to ensure the former won't be confused in the event something *does* go wrong? Spoiler warning: Returning #t on error won't actually fix them. > As for the first commit: > > Le lundi 26 octobre 2020 à 22:05 +0100, Leo Prikler a écrit : > > I'd prefer it if you didn't credit me for messing up your code. ;) > > The reason my version works, is because (ice-9 filesystem) has a > > working implementation of file-ancestors, which it uses to create > > all > > ancestors in order. The part you've copied only creates one such > > directory. With the changes you've made, the directory, that does > > get > > created, is the first one in the tree, which does not exist. I'm > > surprised, that this test passes for you, because it does not pass > > for > > me. > > Exactly, it does not pass the test, because I still can't run them. That's one way to see it. For the record, I didn't actually run your test, but instead copied your code as well as a test into a separate file rather than building all of guile. That's an easier way of prototyping. > In which file do I write the code, I feel the ports module is not the > best place. That's because it isn't. The only reason you could be led to putting it there is because of your insistence on the second patch (recall, that it is not at all needed) along with possibly a belief, that the only reason to recursively make a directory is to put files at their root, which is also wrong. As I have been suggesting multiple times already, you could potentially maybe drop your second patch without making much impact on those developers and users, who receive an error when opening a file port without ensuring the parent directory to exist. That would allow you to put mkdir-recursive into the posix module (and test it along with it) even if it isn't strictly POSIX. If that's not your cup of tea and you have more than just mkdir-recursive to add, you might want to put it into a different module. Please also note, that Guile also doesn't particularly need *your* implementation of mkdir-p (or mine for that matter). Ludovic Courtès, who you might remember being a co-maintainer along with Andy Wingo, wrote mkdir-p for GNU Guix, so whether or not it gets included here is much rather a question of whether or not they want to relicense it under the LGPL. > How do you run the tests? When I run "make check", I get 1 of 39 > tests failed, the test-out-of-memory test. It does not even try to > run the ports test. Have a look at test-suite/Makefile.am. Regards, Leo
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Full text available.Received: (at 44186) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Oct 2020 07:01:35 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 27 03:01:35 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42564 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kXIz8-0000U5-My for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 03:01:35 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:44001) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <d@HIDDEN>) id 1kXIz6-0000Tq-2U for 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 03:01:33 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 86.202.110.111 Received: from divoplade.home (lfbn-lyo-1-15-111.w86-202.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.202.110.111]) (Authenticated sender: d@HIDDEN) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3CB7960005; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 07:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <064c08f86112e49533000738aa01f98314d3b08b.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#44186: Recursive mkdir From: divoplade <d@HIDDEN> To: Leo Prikler <leo.prikler@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 08:01:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <bd53a1745b20615c2c1bb9ada1e57eebfe7c1ef6.camel@HIDDEN> References: <bd53a1745b20615c2c1bb9ada1e57eebfe7c1ef6.camel@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-5WQk0+X3B5zLqlWQkO+R" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44186 Cc: 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-5WQk0+X3B5zLqlWQkO+R Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I think I have made my point for the second commit. I intend this change to be user-centric: it would be better to confuse the developer of a guile program than the user of said program. Anyway, this will not confuse anyone because creating the directory is not the default behavior. As for the first commit: Le lundi 26 octobre 2020 à 22:05 +0100, Leo Prikler a écrit : > I'd prefer it if you didn't credit me for messing up your code. ;) > The reason my version works, is because (ice-9 filesystem) has a > working implementation of file-ancestors, which it uses to create all > ancestors in order. The part you've copied only creates one such > directory. With the changes you've made, the directory, that does > get > created, is the first one in the tree, which does not exist. I'm > surprised, that this test passes for you, because it does not pass > for > me. Exactly, it does not pass the test, because I still can't run them. That's one of my open questions (the other being: in which file do I write the code, I feel the ports module is not the best place). How do you run the tests? When I run "make check", I get 1 of 39 tests failed, the test-out-of-memory test. It does not even try to run the ports test. So until I can check it, my work can only be understood as "work in progress". 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bug-guile@HIDDEN:bug#44186; Package guile.
Full text available.Received: (at 44186) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2020 21:05:52 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 26 17:05:51 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41644 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kX9gd-0008Js-G3 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 17:05:51 -0400 Received: from mailrelay.tugraz.at ([129.27.2.202]:13807) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <leo.prikler@HIDDEN>) id 1kX9ga-0008Jj-A5 for 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 17:05:49 -0400 Received: from nijino.local (217-149-162-161.nat.highway.telekom.at [217.149.162.161]) by mailrelay.tugraz.at (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CKnRs1GL3z3wXQ; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 22:05:44 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tugraz.at; s=mailrelay; t=1603746345; bh=wc/xW5uBVs2e45ULsoFusFvjqlMfQb8y0b+OweN7w8U=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To; b=u8+reurlC/aq8Tmrj67VaU/okm28nZ2LIiIGNp35GdTDwgHfjaqIH/9MGfTGe9Vcf uC0IoNPA+371mBF889lPs1AN+vKPO3C1T1HjnJTm9YoEGSiW/WZg9O2wKdB601IR2D b8bOe6BJbY2XjyQTR0PwfhyGCWj0ObWKAcOt14mQ= Message-ID: <bd53a1745b20615c2c1bb9ada1e57eebfe7c1ef6.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: bug#44186: Recursive mkdir From: Leo Prikler <leo.prikler@HIDDEN> To: d@HIDDEN Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 22:05:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: c32611441c32d92d6d6462e4a2db53f2846747e6.camel@HIDDEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TUG-Backscatter-control: bt4lQm5Tva3SBgCuw0EnZw X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.003001 X-Spam-Score-relay: -1.9 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 on 129.27.10.116 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44186 Cc: 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hello, divoplade, > So, after a bit of bikeshedding on #guile, it turns out that the > controversy moved to the second commit. Not quite, the second commit just needlessly complicates a patch, that should not be that complicated in the first place. When posting a patch to the mailing list, you should do your best to ensure, that all of your code works as intended (alas, I am getting ahead of myself here a bit). It is easier to prove this for *just* mkdir-p/mkdir-recursive rather than having to test all your wrappers as well. You have been pretty adamant, that you need those wrappers, but they can easily be written in whichever library actually ends up using them as well, so you're just creating more work for yourself for little gain. That's the point I was trying to make in the IRC. > Here is the justification for it. > > When a program user wants to save data to a file, if the place where > to > save the file does not exist yet, there will be an error: "cannot > create file or directory". That's puzzling to the user, because, yes, > the user wants to create that file. If the error is a little more > precise, it will be something in the line of "Please create directory > blah/blah/blah before invoking this program". > > So, the user will wonder why the program was not able to create > blah/blah/blah itself, create it, and re-run the program. This is > more > work for the user, work that could have been easily handled by the > program. That would be a nice story in a vacuum, but in practice few systems work like that. Python errors in a similar way to Guile, but with a nicer message. So does plain Node JS. On the part of Node with all of its single package modules, even there the equivalent to your versions of open-output-file is one package[1] removed from the built-in fs module. > Good behaving programs should (recursively) create the directory > before > trying to write to a file specified by the user. That include log > files > for a daemon, for instance. Emacs org-mode babel tangling uses a > :mkdirp t for a similar reason. In order to simplify the development > of > such programs, and in order to avoid bugs where the developer forgot > to > call (mkdir-recursive (dirname output-file)) before (open-output- > file, > call-with-output-file or with-output-to-file, while still keeping > compatibility of the other programs, I propose to add a keyword > argument to these functions. The programming of such procedures would not get simpler by inlining mkdir-p into open-file. Instead, programs written that way would be harder to understand, as the implicit creation of such directories outside of functions that explicitly exist for this implicit creation will cause (some) confusion as to whether or not implicit creation of directories can/will take place and whether that is actually wanted in this context and erroring is not an acceptable alternative. The addition of mkdir-p/mkdir-recursive/make-directories alone would already enable a writer of org-mode tangle to write whichever helper they need for their (in my opinion rather specific) use case in 2 lines. > I also simplified the mkdir-recursive function, to be closer to > https://gitlab.com/leoprikler/guile-filesystem/-/blob/master/ice-9/filesystem.scm > . I'd prefer it if you didn't credit me for messing up your code. ;) The reason my version works, is because (ice-9 filesystem) has a working implementation of file-ancestors, which it uses to create all ancestors in order. The part you've copied only creates one such directory. With the changes you've made, the directory, that does get created, is the first one in the tree, which does not exist. I'm surprised, that this test passes for you, because it does not pass for me. On a somewhat related note, I am getting closer to a 0.1.0 release of (ice-9 filesystem), which I'll then pitch to the Guix mailing lists. Being an outside module, that means you can use it with Guile versions earlier than 3.0.5, which at least in my eyes sounds like a better solution to your problem of not being able to implement org-babel in Guile. Regards, Leo [1] https://www.npmjs.com/package/fse
bug-guile@HIDDEN:bug#44186; Package guile.
Full text available.Received: (at 44186) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Oct 2020 10:44:58 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 25 06:44:58 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35814 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kWdWD-0003o4-P3 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 06:44:58 -0400 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:21779) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <d@HIDDEN>) id 1kWdWA-0003nm-O2 for 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 06:44:56 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 86.202.110.111 Received: from divoplade.home (lfbn-lyo-1-15-111.w86-202.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.202.110.111]) (Authenticated sender: d@HIDDEN) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 65542240004; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 10:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <c32611441c32d92d6d6462e4a2db53f2846747e6.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#44186: Recursive mkdir From: divoplade <d@HIDDEN> To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@HIDDEN>, Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 11:44:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <21ba80c2c90d76f475128290a469d3be48c329a4.camel@HIDDEN> References: <6ff632f5c1e378647cecc7177b7018fb8a0ee6d4.camel@HIDDEN> <86sga420pw.fsf@HIDDEN> <21802e695ea4472c8aba0a686e6bf025890c64d6.camel@HIDDEN> <CAJ3okZ3pvC=vyO6u-VT9Q9tM5voso=6A1kfJt3mP3z7jSY150A@HIDDEN> <20201023233214.GA13637@LionPure> <1a7ae91ae083eecc3ab1043e8ed571bfe972c3a4.camel@HIDDEN> <20201025041350.GA14747@LionPure> <87h7qi3g1a.fsf@HIDDEN> <21ba80c2c90d76f475128290a469d3be48c329a4.camel@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-WnrkOMI+tlu6fauQ535N" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44186 Cc: 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, zimoun <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-WnrkOMI+tlu6fauQ535N Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So, after a bit of bikeshedding on #guile, it turns out that the controversy moved to the second commit. Here is the justification for it. When a program user wants to save data to a file, if the place where to save the file does not exist yet, there will be an error: "cannot create file or directory". That's puzzling to the user, because, yes, the user wants to create that file. If the error is a little more precise, it will be something in the line of "Please create directory blah/blah/blah before invoking this program". So, the user will wonder why the program was not able to create blah/blah/blah itself, create it, and re-run the program. This is more work for the user, work that could have been easily handled by the program. Good behaving programs should (recursively) create the directory before trying to write to a file specified by the user. That include log files for a daemon, for instance. Emacs org-mode babel tangling uses a :mkdirp t for a similar reason. In order to simplify the development of such programs, and in order to avoid bugs where the developer forgot to call (mkdir-recursive (dirname output-file)) before (open-output-file, call-with-output-file or with-output-to-file, while still keeping compatibility of the other programs, I propose to add a keyword argument to these functions. There are also worries that this keyword will not be of much use and will clutter the implementation. I am willing to bet that this keyword will be more used than, for instance, #:guess-encoding, which is available in all the corresponding input functions. 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bug-guile@HIDDEN:bug#44186; Package guile.
Full text available.Received: (at 44186) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Oct 2020 09:07:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 25 05:07:29 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35751 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kWbzs-0007YG-PO for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 05:07:29 -0400 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:38605) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <d@HIDDEN>) id 1kWbzp-0007Xy-9o for 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 05:07:26 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 86.202.110.111 Received: from divoplade.home (lfbn-lyo-1-15-111.w86-202.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.202.110.111]) (Authenticated sender: d@HIDDEN) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7750240009; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <21ba80c2c90d76f475128290a469d3be48c329a4.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#44186: Recursive mkdir From: divoplade <d@HIDDEN> To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@HIDDEN>, Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 10:07:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h7qi3g1a.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <6ff632f5c1e378647cecc7177b7018fb8a0ee6d4.camel@HIDDEN> <86sga420pw.fsf@HIDDEN> <21802e695ea4472c8aba0a686e6bf025890c64d6.camel@HIDDEN> <CAJ3okZ3pvC=vyO6u-VT9Q9tM5voso=6A1kfJt3mP3z7jSY150A@HIDDEN> <20201023233214.GA13637@LionPure> <1a7ae91ae083eecc3ab1043e8ed571bfe972c3a4.camel@HIDDEN> <20201025041350.GA14747@LionPure> <87h7qi3g1a.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-IOAqfLlpdrCkrFRNzdsX" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44186 Cc: 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, zimoun <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-IOAqfLlpdrCkrFRNzdsX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello! Le dimanche 25 octobre 2020 à 08:45 +0100, Ricardo Wurmus a écrit : > > > To be clear, you would rather have that function as guile code > > > rather > > > than extending the C function? I'm OK with that, but in which > > > file > > > should I put that function? My instinct was to put the code near > > > the > > > mkdir function, and that happened to be in a C file, so I went C. > > We should all be writing fewer lines of C code and more Scheme :) OK, but where do I put the function? There is a posix.scm, but this function is not posix, and posix.scm does not seem to export functions. By default I will put it in ports.scm, because it is useful for open- output-directory. Also, I still cannot run the ports tests! How do I do it? Also test- out-of-memory fails, but it also fails on master. Attached, the new version for you to read! 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bug-guile@HIDDEN:bug#44186; Package guile.
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bug-guile@HIDDEN:bug#44186; Package guile.
Full text available.Received: (at 44186) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Oct 2020 04:14:07 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 25 00:14:07 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35587 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kWXPz-0006KS-Ep for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 00:14:07 -0400 Received: from imta-37.everyone.net ([216.200.145.37]:47844 helo=imta-38.everyone.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bokr@HIDDEN>) id 1kWXPw-0006KI-8X for 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 00:14:05 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 09P48eZD021220; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 21:14:03 -0700 X-Eon-Originating-Account: lxIZI5taveL1L0P42vEY_6JXoxe3CU_AHdc_--ScGmg X-Eon-Dm: m0116953.ppops.net Received: by m0116953.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 5a81c5ee) id m0116953.5f8a0276.9ad5e; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 21:14:00 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMHrIJflPuIf4yaDwIAAAAD,be32293ee8e7769daf761c1a80a749c3 X-Eip: vJ9giD9QENz6dWi1QJrEsJTHwT2GbNBED835tvKLUug Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 05:13:50 +0100 From: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> To: divoplade <d@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#44186: Recursive mkdir Message-ID: <20201025041350.GA14747@LionPure> References: <6ff632f5c1e378647cecc7177b7018fb8a0ee6d4.camel@HIDDEN> <86sga420pw.fsf@HIDDEN> <21802e695ea4472c8aba0a686e6bf025890c64d6.camel@HIDDEN> <CAJ3okZ3pvC=vyO6u-VT9Q9tM5voso=6A1kfJt3mP3z7jSY150A@HIDDEN> <20201023233214.GA13637@LionPure> <1a7ae91ae083eecc3ab1043e8ed571bfe972c3a4.camel@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1a7ae91ae083eecc3ab1043e8ed571bfe972c3a4.camel@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.235, 18.0.737 definitions=2020-10-25_01:2020-10-23, 2020-10-25 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1034 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxlogscore=884 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2010250029 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44186 Cc: 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, zimoun <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) Hi divoplade, On +2020-10-24 08:17:47 +0200, divoplade wrote: > Hello, > > Le samedi 24 octobre 2020 à 01:32 +0200, Bengt Richter a écrit : > > An alternate solution could be programmed using ffi, as documented in > > [1], n'est-ce pas? > To be clear, you would rather have that function as guile code rather > than extending the C function? I'm OK with that, but in which file > should I put that function? My instinct was to put the code near the > mkdir function, and that happened to be in a C file, so I went C. > Seems logical, and probably where I'd go, but please be careful! Don't make a C version of this hack: ┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ (define (my-mkdir-p path . ignore) (system (string-append "mkdir -p " path))) │ └───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ You can then write (my-mkdir-p "foo-dir/bar-dir") and it'll do the job. But it's definitely safer to skip the hack and write ┌─────────────────────────────────────┐ │ (system "mkdir -p foo-dir/bar-dir") │ └─────────────────────────────────────┘ and not give anything a chance to inject something bad via unsanitized parameters. E.g., ┌─────────────────────────────────────┐ │ (my-mkdir-p "here/below;tree here") │ │ here │ │ └── below │ └─────────────────────────────────────┘ It does the intended, so no suspicous change in that part, and my-mkdir-p looks innocent enough. (Did you notice the danger? ;) Well, introducing something like this, but more subtle, could be the first move by a mole working for <insert favorite bogeyman organization> to compromise or disrupt/discredit GNU FLOSS competition. Is that unhappy thought too paranoid? I hope so, but I'm not convinced ;/ > > What would guix best-practice guidance say about that? > I'm not sure to follow, now this is a guile matter, guix has nothing to > do about it. I'm sorry I messed a few things up with the mailing lists > (I should have listened to them, "don't cross the streams"). Could you > elaborate? > Sorry, you are right: it does become a guile matter, but... ... it also becomes part of guix if it's part of the guile version a guix version depends on, so thereby it becomes a guix quality/security item to be careful about. So I was wondering whether guix architects have preferences for where and how a function should be implemented, all things considered. > Best regards, > > divoplade > -- Regards, Bengt Richter
bug-guile@HIDDEN:bug#44186; Package guile.
Full text available.Received: (at 44186) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2020 06:17:58 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 24 02:17:58 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58881 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kWCsI-0005AR-6H for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 02:17:58 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:46659) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <d@HIDDEN>) id 1kWCsF-0005A8-0c for 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 02:17:57 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 86.202.110.111 Received: from divoplade.home (lfbn-lyo-1-15-111.w86-202.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.202.110.111]) (Authenticated sender: d@HIDDEN) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0E69C60006; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 06:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1a7ae91ae083eecc3ab1043e8ed571bfe972c3a4.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#44186: Recursive mkdir From: divoplade <d@HIDDEN> To: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN>, zimoun <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 08:17:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20201023233214.GA13637@LionPure> References: <6ff632f5c1e378647cecc7177b7018fb8a0ee6d4.camel@HIDDEN> <86sga420pw.fsf@HIDDEN> <21802e695ea4472c8aba0a686e6bf025890c64d6.camel@HIDDEN> <CAJ3okZ3pvC=vyO6u-VT9Q9tM5voso=6A1kfJt3mP3z7jSY150A@HIDDEN> <20201023233214.GA13637@LionPure> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44186 Cc: 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, Le samedi 24 octobre 2020 à 01:32 +0200, Bengt Richter a écrit : > An alternate solution could be programmed using ffi, as documented in > [1], n'est-ce pas? To be clear, you would rather have that function as guile code rather than extending the C function? I'm OK with that, but in which file should I put that function? My instinct was to put the code near the mkdir function, and that happened to be in a C file, so I went C. > What would guix best-practice guidance say about that? I'm not sure to follow, now this is a guile matter, guix has nothing to do about it. I'm sorry I messed a few things up with the mailing lists (I should have listened to them, "don't cross the streams"). Could you elaborate? Best regards, divoplade
bug-guile@HIDDEN:bug#44186; Package guile.
Full text available.Received: (at 44186) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2020 23:32:29 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 23 19:32:29 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58698 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kW6Xt-0003NS-Hv for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:32:29 -0400 Received: from imta-37.everyone.net ([216.200.145.37]:59362 helo=imta-38.everyone.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bokr@HIDDEN>) id 1kW6Xr-0003NH-6y for 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:32:28 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 09NNTYet029374; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 16:32:25 -0700 X-Eon-Originating-Account: z2Uan9TA2l8Yaxb_XyxGKIf-lyb9Z2Cf9qBQIRYUxCA X-Eon-Dm: m0116787.ppops.net Received: by m0116787.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 53b92f5c) id m0116787.5f8a0270.652a1; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 16:32:24 -0700 X-Eon-Sig: AQMHrIJfk2gI84UdugIAAAAD,3e56e0616ee91cc503261fc4af190179 X-Eip: lxa3gQSEJfrtrQSH_FeM7KePhl7MwLyEzrfFPWHHiLg Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 01:32:14 +0200 From: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#44186: Recursive mkdir Message-ID: <20201023233214.GA13637@LionPure> References: <6ff632f5c1e378647cecc7177b7018fb8a0ee6d4.camel@HIDDEN> <86sga420pw.fsf@HIDDEN> <21802e695ea4472c8aba0a686e6bf025890c64d6.camel@HIDDEN> <CAJ3okZ3pvC=vyO6u-VT9Q9tM5voso=6A1kfJt3mP3z7jSY150A@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <CAJ3okZ3pvC=vyO6u-VT9Q9tM5voso=6A1kfJt3mP3z7jSY150A@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.235, 18.0.737 definitions=2020-10-23_18:2020-10-23, 2020-10-23 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=913 adultscore=0 priorityscore=1501 bulkscore=0 impostorscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1034 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2010230144 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44186 Cc: 44186 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, divoplade <d@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) Hi, On +2020-10-24 00:07:19 +0200, zimoun wrote: > Dear, > > On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 00:00, divoplade <d@HIDDEN> wrote: > > > I have slightly modified the mkdir function so that it takes a third > > argument to try to create the intermediate directories when calling > > mkdir, in effect acting as "mkdir -p". > > > > However, I could not make the test suite run the ports test, on which I > > added the test for the new behavior. Is it expected? How do I run it? > > > > In the mean time, here is the WIP version of the patch. > > [...] > > > > Otherwise, why is it not possible to send a patch to Guile? > > The discussion started here: > > <http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/44130> > > All the best, > simon > > > An alternate solution could be programmed using ffi, as documented in [1], n'est-ce pas? What would guix best-practice guidance say about that? [1] info guile ffi -- Regards, Bengt Richter
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Dear,
On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 00:00, divoplade <d@HIDDEN> wrote:
> I have slightly modified the mkdir function so that it takes a third
> argument to try to create the intermediate directories when calling
> mkdir, in effect acting as "mkdir -p".
>
> However, I could not make the test suite run the ports test, on which I
> added the test for the new behavior. Is it expected? How do I run it?
>
> In the mean time, here is the WIP version of the patch.
[...]
> > Otherwise, why is it not possible to send a patch to Guile?
The discussion started here:
<http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/44130>
All the best,
simon
bug-guile@HIDDEN:bug#44186; Package guile.
Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2020 22:00:22 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 23 18:00:22 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58618 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kW56j-0000xS-BY for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 18:00:21 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:58222) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <d@HIDDEN>) id 1kW56h-0000xE-2i for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 18:00:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <d@HIDDEN>) id 1kW56g-0002Zl-Pt for bug-guile@HIDDEN; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 18:00:18 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:35201) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <d@HIDDEN>) id 1kW56c-0000gG-9f for bug-guile@HIDDEN; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 18:00:18 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 86.202.110.111 Received: from divoplade.home (lfbn-lyo-1-15-111.w86-202.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.202.110.111]) (Authenticated sender: d@HIDDEN) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B023C0010; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 22:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <21802e695ea4472c8aba0a686e6bf025890c64d6.camel@HIDDEN> Subject: Recursive mkdir From: divoplade <d@HIDDEN> To: bug-guile@HIDDEN Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 00:00:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86sga420pw.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <6ff632f5c1e378647cecc7177b7018fb8a0ee6d4.camel@HIDDEN> <86sga420pw.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-2n+Yr1PhVjhl1iTa+iXe" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.198; envelope-from=d@HIDDEN; helo=relay6-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/23 18:00:10 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@HIDDEN>, 44130 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) --=-2n+Yr1PhVjhl1iTa+iXe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear guile, I have slightly modified the mkdir function so that it takes a third argument to try to create the intermediate directories when calling mkdir, in effect acting as "mkdir -p". 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