Received: (at 44454) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Nov 2020 13:57:46 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 10 08:57:46 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36799 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kcU9a-0007Gr-3R for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 08:57:46 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53558) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1kcU9Y-0007Ga-Tx for 44454 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 08:57:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Z0xil7zfQyq9fTspQaJ52oZRatq5SS2nwZJJwsr+W9k=; b=DkomMBQm7QcNtkNjoeFzA8wIBx QMadrfO/H06nfjKyc+pidH79P2kAz0naB7qVCd18VP9+1p7XnJq1x9MzIrcz+QDcUdZJ4jrxjDBOD 6teEvLpRRwBAuq6lidTdQ8FXtcfX3+kWcL8AK1pbrLHzPZ81Xqc8VRkJdAtR/JBiw8Cw=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1kcU9Q-0002ua-BR; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:57:38 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#44454: 26.3; Enhancement request: let :help in menus take a FORM arg, i.e., be eval'd References: <93a9e82b-3799-492f-9632-dfe61db9a7dd@default> <87v9eejz7m.fsf@HIDDEN> <ea9fd587-4403-41b1-9d5e-ee7e89fc0269@default> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEX0zt4+Fxy+LUT/ ///9z/9xAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+QLCg04D9aUEHgAAAGISURBVCjPdZHBattAEIZH ghSkUyj1oT2FUpd2n8Lk1psI+gd5T25Apdqn2AZ88akH75LqpIbISPOUnZWd9tSBhfl2Zn52/yHK 8IU7YEclEV2hxX2NirzCG4WH58/Vjeb0Glc4HE3YJVijaObmCalLZ2aWYw6fWVI1sGMJw4qJ8q7l X1FGwBEdM7C431oXKup8y4IZe6fQ5HoXQ0MilHEBiG0tiVFIoxF1qmgTnERtNULkRIMVUkWWCAoD lSLzdxMCRDwZBWcV3ECqIQ8/XZgK+3yGsWNv7DGBz+F4ChYKLD5wSGeTYHpr47BSf8j0Iu8ChoAN JemDjM4n55JaqRADbhNM61Ps70KyR58XELtLmy+wdaeM0SQw6gXva9hFYA3LsQIvsOoqDhXSc6T8 9rFqsVsqUxn7x4jboFB6E/iecbev0xr0z45Rz8uCTDG6U1juNYq2xPa8Ux2rD/3XXbY5w7X0PzbX S569em/kyV9myg/9+HjJ1eGpaF6A1OWbv2A8/YtP9D94iT/nZLdobfnZ0AAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpj cmVhdGUAMjAyMC0xMS0xMFQxMzo1NjoxNSswMDowMPuhaCsAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIw MjAtMTEtMTBUMTM6NTY6MTUrMDA6MDCK/NCXAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Machinedrum's _Cached_: "Jigga Why? (Beat 5)" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:57:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <ea9fd587-4403-41b1-9d5e-ee7e89fc0269@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:26:25 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87o8k5iab4.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > I have exactly this situation in my `Info' submenu > `Toggle/Cycle'. For the toggle commands there, the > toggle checkmark suffices to let you know the current > (and hence the next) state/value. Fo [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44454 Cc: 44454 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> writes: > I have exactly this situation in my `Info' submenu > `Toggle/Cycle'. For the toggle commands there, the > toggle checkmark suffices to let you know the current > (and hence the next) state/value. For cycle commands > there's no way to know, except by actually cycling. Makes sense to me. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#44454; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 44454) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Nov 2020 16:26:36 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 09 11:26:36 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35368 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kcA04-0002e2-AO for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2020 11:26:36 -0500 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:45236) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1kcA02-0002do-JA for 44454 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2020 11:26:35 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0A9GNigM004161; Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:26:28 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=lTYoO5jh3wkCZuVa7zepv3cX3HMnkC0qLRfZ798bn2o=; b=yvhGCEj+okb+CcbmqsmzDwz9MLMo3DLflPiw1jm7g2j4uYn0D1UjU+AhfvKjiWyxHUOu TaAtjodn8STW3lg/esSTQVJlEyKNZ6L1lNVZzYrTwQP/l1Lmw+VYacgHzAjZf3D4ec2+ wM1AbU2vUYps25J7w0KpKXO2f4HLgCAD/z1opnf4Ar7rMQkdkgIQJFx8wI0hi44qiG8P WUKtVz/yFuOdStdVN0ZcS68ELMuRe8B5rSGdmRx5BB6TGtMgw/BqM+/otuRv3w/1jjon B9LuctT37SLaewNoAdnWtQCDGuDJ+rBUrHiTpVvuSRos/W/998x0ngc9KqgkU5u42Bj4 RA== Received: from userp3020.oracle.com (userp3020.oracle.com [156.151.31.79]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34nkhkpuqs-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 09 Nov 2020 16:26:28 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0A9GL1Uq105995; Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:26:27 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34p5bqqgvq-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 09 Nov 2020 16:26:27 +0000 Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 0A9GQQq5017407; Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:26:26 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <ea9fd587-4403-41b1-9d5e-ee7e89fc0269@default> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 08:26:25 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#44454: 26.3; Enhancement request: let :help in menus take a FORM arg, i.e., be eval'd References: <93a9e82b-3799-492f-9632-dfe61db9a7dd@default> <87v9eejz7m.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87v9eejz7m.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5071.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9800 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011090113 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9800 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 lowpriorityscore=0 spamscore=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 clxscore=1011 bulkscore=0 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011090113 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44454 Cc: 44454 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > :visible and :enable have to allow forms as values. What's the use case > for forms for :help elements? Same purpose as :visible and :enable: To be able to change the help echo depending on the current context. The command for the menu item can have different behaviors, depending on the context. The help echo could let you know about this. For example, the help echo for a command that cycles some setting/value could let you know what the current value is or what the next one will be if you choose that menu item - let you know what will happen. Just as :visible and :enable let you know whether a command is currently available, so could :help let you know what its behavior will be. I have exactly this situation in my `Info' submenu `Toggle/Cycle'. For the toggle commands there, the toggle checkmark suffices to let you know the current (and hence the next) state/value. For cycle commands there's no way to know, except by actually cycling. ___ (Dare I ask if there's some reason that :help cannot or shouldn't accept a FORM to evaluate? Will I be denounced again for including a question "Why not?"? You have the "why" above. But I'd anyway like to know what it is, if there's a good answer to "why not?".)
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#44454; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#44454; Package emacs.
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Wed, 04 Nov 2020 21:36:20 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0A4LAX0B091902 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:34:19 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34hw0kj5de-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 21:34:19 +0000 Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0A4LYIMp017802 for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 21:34:18 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <93a9e82b-3799-492f-9632-dfe61db9a7dd@default> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 13:34:17 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 26.3; Enhancement request: let :help in menus take a FORM arg, i.e., be eval'd X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5056.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9795 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=1 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011040154 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9795 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=1 clxscore=1015 mlxlogscore=999 impostorscore=0 malwarescore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 adultscore=0 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011040154 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=141.146.126.79; envelope-from=drew.adams@HIDDEN; helo=aserp2130.oracle.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/04 16:36:20 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Enhancement request: In extended menu items and the easy-menu stuff, the value of :help must be a literal string. Consider perhaps letting it be a FORM, i.e., have it be evaluated, like :visible and :enable. It would be backward compatible. If you use a sexp now the result is that you just don't get any help echo. In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-08-29 Repository revision: 96dd0196c28bc36779584e47fffcca433c9309cd Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.18362 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3''
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