Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
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Full text available.Received: (at 44837) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2021 09:47:09 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 08 05:47:09 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mNuAe-0006sB-Rn for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 05:47:09 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:57860) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1mNuAd-0006mj-Cf for 44837 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 05:47:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ZMo64EqVu5hK3nC9KWVk4dNQ3o+YBeHz43Bbm7PATWc=; b=XpY8dx6Lj8oBfgQISkTwcY6MdQ tEJLrnLDKFzpOBHbyi8up8b+e03bnuhFPsKhkyo3wbLP401R3F+U3gmWwnK2FdbGyB/VX1DpEwjUC 9nc3+q0r6Iy/mBerJND2J8UvQGQliHp04NrbP44/ZiYHASwpJmcaENJ+36YoNB58bJlg=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1mNuAV-0001Qz-2L; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 11:47:01 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#44837: 28.0.50; Local-variables: in middle of file wants to get executed References: <courier.000000005FBCD853.000073BD@HIDDEN> <87360wwerg.fsf@HIDDEN> <X7+hLiSAMUxQoGw5@HIDDEN> <87r1ogs2g1.fsf@HIDDEN> <X7/3E1fnTJ+6W/9i@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 11:46:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <X7/3E1fnTJ+6W/9i@HIDDEN> (Jean Louis's message of "Thu, 26 Nov 2020 21:42:27 +0300") Message-ID: <87a6kn1jsd.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> writes: > When I read email with Mutt and use Emacs, then local variables want > to get executed. Just to ensure that I understand you -- this has nothing to do with reading mail, has it? It's about opening a file containing local variables in Emacs from disk? (I asked before, but the response was [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44837 Cc: 44837 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> writes: > When I read email with Mutt and use Emacs, then local variables want > to get executed. Just to ensure that I understand you -- this has nothing to do with reading mail, has it? It's about opening a file containing local variables in Emacs from disk? (I asked before, but the response was ambiguous.) (That you received the file via mail is pretty immaterial.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#44837; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 44837) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2020 01:01:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 26 20:01:30 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43277 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kiS8g-0005dR-4P for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:01:30 -0500 Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:43215) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bugs@HIDDEN>) id 1kiS8a-0005cq-LB for 44837 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 20:01:25 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.56]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C0007.000000005FC04FE3.00001E84; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 01:01:23 +0000 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 21:42:27 +0300 From: Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#44837: 28.0.50; Local-variables: in middle of file wants to get executed Message-ID: <X7/3E1fnTJ+6W/9i@HIDDEN> References: <courier.000000005FBCD853.000073BD@HIDDEN> <87360wwerg.fsf@HIDDEN> <X7+hLiSAMUxQoGw5@HIDDEN> <87r1ogs2g1.fsf@HIDDEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87r1ogs2g1.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) X-Spam-Score: 1.1 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: * Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> [2020-11-26 15:55]: > Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> writes: > > >> I'm unable to reproduce this bug. How are you reading this mail? > >> rmail? Gnus? Something els [...] Content analysis details: (1.1 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.1 DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 Date: is 6 to 12 hours before Received: date -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44837 Cc: 44837 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) * Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> [2020-11-26 15:55]: > Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> writes: > > >> I'm unable to reproduce this bug. How are you reading this mail? > >> rmail? Gnus? Something else? > > > > By invoking emacsclient > > > > That it is email is not relevant. I would like to say that focus shall > > be on those follow up emails from me on how to improve the dialogue. > > > > Did you get it? > > Nope. Having an Emacs client eval arbitrary code that it's receiving > would be a major security problem. Loading local files is less of a > problem. Please see here: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=44837#8 > So if this has nothing to do with emails, that's nice. I do not think that major problem is email but more fundamental in how is that dialogue displayed. When I read email with Mutt and use Emacs, then local variables want to get executed. My comments are on the above link as I forgot to include you and assumed you would get email automatically. Thank you, Jean
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#44837; Package emacs.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> writes: >> I'm unable to reproduce this bug. How are you reading this mail? >> rmail? Gnus? Something else? > > By invoking emacsclient > > That it is email is not relevant. I would like to say that focus sha [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44837 Cc: 44837 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> writes: >> I'm unable to reproduce this bug. How are you reading this mail? >> rmail? Gnus? Something else? > > By invoking emacsclient > > That it is email is not relevant. I would like to say that focus shall > be on those follow up emails from me on how to improve the dialogue. > > Did you get it? Nope. Having an Emacs client eval arbitrary code that it's receiving would be a major security problem. Loading local files is less of a problem. So if this has nothing to do with emails, that's nice. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#44837; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 44837) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Nov 2020 12:47:45 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 26 07:47:45 2020 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40039 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kiGgb-0003Yn-Cb for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 07:47:45 -0500 Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:49243) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bugs@HIDDEN>) id 1kiGgY-0003Ue-5N for 44837 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 07:47:44 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.56]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C0006.000000005FBFA3E7.00004F42; Thu, 26 Nov 2020 12:47:35 +0000 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 15:35:58 +0300 From: Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#44837: 28.0.50; Local-variables: in middle of file wants to get executed Message-ID: <X7+hLiSAMUxQoGw5@HIDDEN> References: <courier.000000005FBCD853.000073BD@HIDDEN> <87360wwerg.fsf@HIDDEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87360wwerg.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44837 Cc: 44837 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) * Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> [2020-11-26 14:15]: > Jean Louis <bugs@HIDDEN> writes: > > > How to reproduce: > > > > - make email with the text containing Local-variables as below. > > [...] > > >> #+begin_src org > >> ,* local variables :noexport: > >> # Local Variables: > >> # eval: (org-sbe "startup") > >> # End: > >> #+end_src > >> > >> which will evaluate the named src block "startup" when file is opened. > > I'm unable to reproduce this bug. How are you reading this mail? > rmail? Gnus? Something else? By invoking emacsclient That it is email is not relevant. I would like to say that focus shall be on those follow up emails from me on how to improve the dialogue. Did you get it?
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I am proposing following changes to the dialogue with unsafe
variables:
- to include on minibuffer the option ? to READ MANUAL and lead user
to the section 49.2.4.2 Safety of File Variables where there are
dangerous to data cited
- to make the dialogue window with cursor rather than without any
cursor how it is now, so that user can click on buttons pointing to
the above manual page
- to designate some parts as shown below to be buttons to the manual
page clickable both from console and from X Emacs
- to give user option to permanently mark specific file or directory
variables as unsafe and not to be asked again to accept them over
and over again as that makes unfair choice to user
- if user clicks ? or C-g or tries to escape or anything else but Y or
!, then the dialogue should fail and file get loaded just as
usual. Upon the next opening of the file everything should go as
usual.
- to add section in the tutorial that references that variables should
not be opened as nothing about these issues is written in the
tutorial. One could say that before accepting any variables user
shall read the manual section 49.2.4.2 Safety of File Variables, and
until full understanding is achieved user is advised not to accept
such variables.
From the current template:
==========================
The local variables list in /home/data1/protected/x
contains values that may not be safe (*).
Do you want to apply it? You can type
y -- to apply the local variables list.
n -- to ignore the local variables list.
! -- to apply the local variables list, and permanently mark these
values (*) as safe (in the future, they will be set automatically.)
* eval : (when (and (buffer-file-name) (not (file-directory-p (.......
Proposed hyperlinks to manual page:
===================================
The local variables list in /home/data1/protected/x
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
contains values that may not be safe (*).
^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Do you want to apply it? You can type
y -- to apply the local variables list.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
n -- to ignore the local variables list.
! -- to apply the local variables list, and permanently mark these
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
values (*) as safe (in the future, they will be set automatically.)
* eval : (when (and (buffer-file-name) (not (file-directory-p (.......
^^^^^^
- to give to user option to permanently NOT mark these values to be
accepted, as the choice above is inclined to accept variables and it
makes users error prone to accept unsafe variables, but it does not
give option to permanently mark those as unsafe.
This is more important for dir local variables where user may be
asked many times to accept variables.
Being asked 20 times will make user finally permanently accept
variables.
But user has no visible way to permanently ignore those variables.
- safety for millions of users who do not use Emacs Lisp or who may
not be programmers.
Reasons:
========
- Emacs assumes wrongly that millions of users will know the meanings
of "variable", "value", "apply" variable, "eval" and "safe",
including the meanings of all of the Emacs Lisp that may be shown
after eval: line and that seem not to be user friendly
- to follow the principle of being self-documenting one shall give
hyperlinks or references to documentation, thus giving user the
actual informed choice.
- right now user does not have informed choice and is coerced to
permanently accept variables.
More references:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2020-11/msg00609.html
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2020-11/msg00633.html
Here are references of confused users on Stack-something:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2020-11/msg00655.html
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2020-11/msg00665.html
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