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26.3; refill-mode doesn't allow me to add text at the end of a paragraph

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Package: emacs; Reported by: David Klein <dklein0@HIDDEN>; dated Tue, 8 Dec 2020 08:25:02 UTC; Maintainer for emacs is bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.

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For example, set a flag when user inserts a space character after a
non-space character. If he subsequently inserts a non space character,
insert a single space into the buffer.

Did you try it out in an emacs buffer? Really, give it a shot. The current
behavior is so counterintuitive as to make it useless.

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 19:25 Eli Zaretskii, <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:

> > From: David Klein <dklein0@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 19:13:33 +0200
> > Cc: 45116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >
> > If I typed in the text
> >
> > "The quick brown
> >
> > jumped
> >
> > over
> > "
> >
> > and then went up to the end of the first line and type the characters
> > '[space]' 'H' 'e' 'l' 'l' 'o'
> >
> > I get
> >
> > "The quick brownHello"
> >
> > instead of
> >
> > "The quick brown Hello"
> >
> > i.e. zero spaces instead of one. Only excess whitespace should be removed
> > and the first space isn't excess.
>
> What logic would you suggest to implement to decide that this space is
> it not excess?
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">For example, set a flag when user inserts a space charact=
er after a non-space character. If he subsequently inserts a non space char=
acter, insert a single space into the buffer.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Did you try it out in an emacs buffer? Really, give it a sh=
ot. The current behavior is so counterintuitive as to make it useless.=C2=
=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 19:25 Eli Zaretskii, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eli=
z@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">&gt; From: David Klein &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dklein0@HIDDEN" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">dklein0@HIDDEN</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 19:13:33 +0200<br>
&gt; Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:45116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">45116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; If I typed in the text<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &quot;The quick brown<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; jumped<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; over<br>
&gt; &quot;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; and then went up to the end of the first line and type the characters<=
br>
&gt; &#39;[space]&#39; &#39;H&#39; &#39;e&#39; &#39;l&#39; &#39;l&#39; &#39=
;o&#39;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I get<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &quot;The quick brownHello&quot;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; instead of<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &quot;The quick brown Hello&quot;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; i.e. zero spaces instead of one. Only excess whitespace should be remo=
ved<br>
&gt; and the first space isn&#39;t excess.<br>
<br>
What logic would you suggest to implement to decide that this space is<br>
it not excess?<br>
</blockquote></div>

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Apologies. I didn't make myself sufficiently clear.

If I typed in the text

"The quick brown

jumped

over
"

and then went up to the end of the first line and type the characters
'[space]' 'H' 'e' 'l' 'l' 'o'

I get

"The quick brownHello"

instead of

"The quick brown Hello"

i.e. zero spaces instead of one. Only excess whitespace should be removed
and the first space isn't excess.



On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 5:21 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> wrote:

> > From: David Klein <dklein0@HIDDEN>
> > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 10:16:40 +0200
> >
> > runemacs.exe -Q
> > (setq auto-mode-alist
> >       (cons '("\\.latex$" . latex-mode) auto-mode-alist))^X^E
> > (add-hook 'latex-mode-hook 'refill-mode)^X^E
> > ^X^F junk.latex
> > Type in a few random lines interspersed with empty lines
> > Go back to the end of a line that is followed by an empty line and type
> > a space (or several). No space gets inserted. Non whitespace inserts
> correctly.
>
> Isn't that expected,, given that the doc string of this mode says:
>
>                                              When enabled, the
>   current paragraph is refilled as you edit.  Self-inserting
>   characters only cause refilling if they would cause
>   auto-filling.
>
> "Refilled as you edit means excess whitespace is removed, no?
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Apologies. I didn&#39;t make myself sufficiently clear.<di=
v><br></div><div>If I typed in the text=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>&quo=
t;The quick brown</div><div><br></div><div>jumped=C2=A0</div><div><br></div=
><div>over</div><div>&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>and then went up to th=
e end of the first line and type the characters &#39;[space]&#39; &#39;H&#3=
9; &#39;e&#39; &#39;l&#39; &#39;l&#39; &#39;o&#39;</div><div><br></div><div=
>I get</div><div><div><br></div><div>&quot;The quick brownHello&quot;</div>=
<div><br></div><div>instead of=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><div>&quot;Th=
e quick brown Hello&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>i.e. zero spaces instead=
 of one. Only excess whitespace should be removed and the first space isn&#=
39;t excess.</div><div></div></div><div><br></div><div></div></div><div><br=
></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 5:21 PM Eli Zaretskii &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:e=
liz@HIDDEN">eliz@HIDDEN</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex">&gt; From: David Klein &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dklei=
n0@HIDDEN" target=3D"_blank">dklein0@HIDDEN</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 10:16:40 +0200<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; runemacs.exe -Q<br>
&gt; (setq auto-mode-alist<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(cons &#39;(&quot;\\.latex$&quot; . latex-mo=
de) auto-mode-alist))^X^E<br>
&gt; (add-hook &#39;latex-mode-hook &#39;refill-mode)^X^E<br>
&gt; ^X^F junk.latex<br>
&gt; Type in a few random lines interspersed with empty lines<br>
&gt; Go back to the end of a line that is followed by an empty line and typ=
e<br>
&gt; a space (or several). No space gets inserted. Non whitespace inserts c=
orrectly.<br>
<br>
Isn&#39;t that expected,, given that the doc string of this mode says:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0When enabled, the<br>
=C2=A0 current paragraph is refilled as you edit.=C2=A0 Self-inserting<br>
=C2=A0 characters only cause refilling if they would cause<br>
=C2=A0 auto-filling.<br>
<br>
&quot;Refilled as you edit means excess whitespace is removed, no?<br>
</blockquote></div>

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> From: David Klein <dklein0@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 19:13:33 +0200
> Cc: 45116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> If I typed in the text
> 
> "The quick brown
> 
> jumped
> 
> over
> "
> 
> and then went up to the end of the first line and type the characters
> '[space]' 'H' 'e' 'l' 'l' 'o'
> 
> I get
> 
> "The quick brownHello"
> 
> instead of
> 
> "The quick brown Hello"
> 
> i.e. zero spaces instead of one. Only excess whitespace should be removed
> and the first space isn't excess.

What logic would you suggest to implement to decide that this space is
it not excess?




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 refill-mode doesn't allow me to add text at the end of a paragraph
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> From: David Klein <dklein0@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 10:16:40 +0200
> 
> runemacs.exe -Q
> (setq auto-mode-alist
>       (cons '("\\.latex$" . latex-mode) auto-mode-alist))^X^E
> (add-hook 'latex-mode-hook 'refill-mode)^X^E
> ^X^F junk.latex
> Type in a few random lines interspersed with empty lines
> Go back to the end of a line that is followed by an empty line and type
> a space (or several). No space gets inserted. Non whitespace inserts correctly.

Isn't that expected,, given that the doc string of this mode says:

                                             When enabled, the
  current paragraph is refilled as you edit.  Self-inserting
  characters only cause refilling if they would cause
  auto-filling.

"Refilled as you edit means excess whitespace is removed, no?




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runemacs.exe -Q
(setq auto-mode-alist
      (cons '("\\.latex$" . latex-mode) auto-mode-alist))^X^E
(add-hook 'latex-mode-hook 'refill-mode)^X^E
^X^F junk.latex
Type in a few random lines interspersed with empty lines
Go back to the end of a line that is followed by an empty line and type
a space (or several). No space gets inserted. Non whitespace inserts
correctly.



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 of 2019-08-29 built on CIRROCUMULUS
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