Received: (at 45688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2021 21:46:04 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 20 16:46:04 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56389 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1l2LIh-0007vU-Qk for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 16:46:04 -0500 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:60561) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1l2LIg-0007oh-FU for 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 16:46:02 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.98.64 Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-98-64.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.98.64]) (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98ADF6000D; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 21:45:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#45688: 28.0.50; New action for display-buffer? Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y2h6133r.fsf@HIDDEN> <8735ze0yp7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83o8i20w1f.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfd5yny9.fsf@HIDDEN> <a25dc85e-cd8e-8164-676e-bb6a0f381c06@HIDDEN> <87o8i03gem.fsf@HIDDEN> <528b7d6b-403a-ffef-b0a0-4a0b6d92bec8@HIDDEN> <87turpvxv0.fsf@HIDDEN> <fe796e77-3248-b3fc-0f1b-35b12761e860@HIDDEN> <fb97d5c9-91eb-b8ce-5639-1a875bf40ae9@HIDDEN> <87turnh6u8.fsf@HIDDEN> <b9059f39-b3af-3ec7-c0ee-d1a493a3a2f5@HIDDEN> <87im83cn02.fsf@HIDDEN> <568151d0-c8fd-1643-56a7-87ff36ce234d@HIDDEN> <8735ywdf0q.fsf@HIDDEN> <c2f05bea-c1e0-d3d5-3517-9664cf9a1bc9@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 23:45:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <c2f05bea-c1e0-d3d5-3517-9664cf9a1bc9@HIDDEN> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 20 Jan 2021 09:09:12 +0100") Message-ID: <87lfcnqo3q.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> I didn't know this trick. But it works only for 'C-x 4 f', >> not for 'C-x 4 1': >> >> with enabled temp-buffer-resize-mode >> 1. C-h f push RET >> 2. C-x o TAB >> 3. C-x 4 1 RET >> >> doesn't re-enlarge the window to its prior size. > > Only 'display-buffer-use-some-window' currently does. What does C-x 4 1 > call? It calls same-window-prefix, i.e. display-buffer-same-window.
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Full text available.Received: (at 45688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2021 17:11:57 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 20 12:11:57 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56169 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1l2H1R-0002Is-2b for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 12:11:57 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:47565) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1l2H1O-0002Ie-HH for 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 12:11:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1611162708; bh=42OVo0wpjMNQlkrLH93rwmVPLo8htUJj3asbKpsE+B8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=F72Azm1ZJHiX4PrU/493aGGupAnbJaQMvnKK0vVZv9g4NsF5Chg/mkokcWEs2AVt9 7Yxl6LVvEKGIXyLjmmXiSZ3U+80XdZv5VY+e4BpRKhk5lhG8sgu7owrpfIEeJnzEGI eAdrrgv7zRlxoGcfhuRihb7ugO4CEYjTrVYSuI9M= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.241]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MEFzx-1lCPVR0709-00AFPf; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 18:11:48 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#45688: 28.0.50; New action for display-buffer? To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y2h6133r.fsf@HIDDEN> <8735ze0yp7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83o8i20w1f.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfd5yny9.fsf@HIDDEN> <a25dc85e-cd8e-8164-676e-bb6a0f381c06@HIDDEN> <87o8i03gem.fsf@HIDDEN> <528b7d6b-403a-ffef-b0a0-4a0b6d92bec8@HIDDEN> <87turpvxv0.fsf@HIDDEN> <fe796e77-3248-b3fc-0f1b-35b12761e860@HIDDEN> <fb97d5c9-91eb-b8ce-5639-1a875bf40ae9@HIDDEN> <87turnh6u8.fsf@HIDDEN> <b9059f39-b3af-3ec7-c0ee-d1a493a3a2f5@HIDDEN> <87im83cn02.fsf@HIDDEN> <568151d0-c8fd-1643-56a7-87ff36ce234d@HIDDEN> <878s8psj2l.fsf@HIDDEN> <ea317e6f-1e3d-e56f-d603-5a192019587d@HIDDEN> <874kjbr2i6.fsf@HIDDEN> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <bf1cdab3-422d-baa5-16e0-2bad76a753b0@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 18:11:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <874kjbr2i6.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:QZQPYtEzUpAQLNhtjYkq9032WV/UgaMeWhhP6nLTT2Xgr3oXI+M sgQHb7pJxLn6ohtuvzcWtmTqrwKzcVZut51B7QzglgT+67HyAbxsHQYmDPkahJBA7sM9KNT SGHEeroGBEgASVNUKEcRWEMm23elCFphTyHtjjCKV3H4xY1VIn5sy5GHvyKhpB6dDwdLsjU 5cXcbtre0SKZ6Kqj9pSKw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:j+EfXk6mgUc=:BdNayiIpfuPJB5np/QWB8v B7KKghMkeICEMoAOhnXZdgHpyc/es/EIvJ4bIJpLuEFqlPx3IRdsJG2nex5roW+1Qdpuy9/34 vlfUqUDQC9c75buJte2EZRLPBJYsIvd/RdRZ/kbVwaAlwApdo6AqyPcJBkT++eRb9YrjcAn93 jn4A7QRxd6fB/eFGYM2IxV16l5Y8g5PIk4sWGeeEvD+eOkenc46l8wQpTkOmcPB2lG3ZXwSNk lmkrBhhlQ6zQzWJCzryiYcGOpBcY8Xj6au8v6Y7FQuE8IWGCf/jkDqME06Fm5OrajTSYtdgIX H5AyYrqfUNizNMurSwq7ppGsT6mmm/PEP6/xdJdeLz1YNJ7A+VnZENTuAGviMpm0V1a2JujPh C0NXaRypkO2D2N68+C/AyobLvAmcVKVaQRIAnSt+Z76p0fZk13SP28Z35kwyI784X0Ly1ZtRL +HFlZ070pJA5iWbP8IL8BWd5CotSsIuBuFyeukJPDeAy+GdlXm6+iVKhToJHr3t93uk1t4i2H bOf/2mPg2O3qVFfJeSVmeDjZaCuz0sY+Rss0hbFYE76FjWLHu/8ZY9T3QhXuqVx0H6ecYlNJS 263No/hws1FUersuvEaccupRSzf9wEu8ieVrWSp7I/TfbM2bhXIVkF6C6kp51QeLExKxbgFPL z1jRHlf/QxbL/lL7HAiEW24Ha7ENmMk8UaNclAfrH7M1F47sC/ucJYr4DIjxsMZ8KD6b7G0xK ipk/Qv1R4bNExbueMmN6BsFxBhg9eEpqVfSW8seBI5N+GYGhWQWODPC9yafMqbc1upr32tvmz UUPV1NfM2HO3W0Ae8wela4dwEbiTIBrtI5iXvTMjmgzQjfpNNnUJXOzU0NfukZwKpXzkWPqYz bOwt4MsCuJSgeUtgHR7g== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> Where and how? If you do that in the minibuffer window alone, you >> should get a result not affected by 'select-window'. Otherwise, all >> bets are off. > > `C-x C-e' :-) With emacs -Q, do C-x 2 twice so you get three windows (since you don't want to count the selected one) at least and do C-x C-e in the selected window with point after the following form: (let ((lru (get-lru-window (next-frame) nil t))) (window-bump-use-time lru) (message "%s .. %s" lru (get-lru-window (next-frame) nil t))) martin
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes: > Where and how? If you do that in the minibuffer window alone, you > should get a result not affected by 'select-window'. Otherwise, all > bets are off. `C-x C-e' :-) Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes: > Where and how? If you do that in the minibuffer window alone, you > should get a result not affected by 'select-window'. Otherwise, all > bets are off. `C-x C-e' :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y2h6133r.fsf@HIDDEN> <8735ze0yp7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83o8i20w1f.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfd5yny9.fsf@HIDDEN> <a25dc85e-cd8e-8164-676e-bb6a0f381c06@HIDDEN> <87o8i03gem.fsf@HIDDEN> <528b7d6b-403a-ffef-b0a0-4a0b6d92bec8@HIDDEN> <87turpvxv0.fsf@HIDDEN> <fe796e77-3248-b3fc-0f1b-35b12761e860@HIDDEN> <fb97d5c9-91eb-b8ce-5639-1a875bf40ae9@HIDDEN> <87turnh6u8.fsf@HIDDEN> <b9059f39-b3af-3ec7-c0ee-d1a493a3a2f5@HIDDEN> <87im83cn02.fsf@HIDDEN> <568151d0-c8fd-1643-56a7-87ff36ce234d@HIDDEN> <878s8psj2l.fsf@HIDDEN> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <ea317e6f-1e3d-e56f-d603-5a192019587d@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 09:08:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <878s8psj2l.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:czJEh6H/T13oEe3jEf6Ud96aSuFOnxRgxf9yNshKHQAr1TfpDAN V1Heu9w0JAEZBifl0RkyqfLwz0j5+5XHMi8cMDqAZZiLYHdHkSUkU9jXUlYASqvIclIP5VN wN7njhblW7vmXd0NZDgnEwYzY2jePsRaZi2my35IUTizmL7gvfxqgqEelx4hp55nMHAD5UK 5vld3lZoGQQkle8j2vIzg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ioAK7Df5YoY=:HCfUT02rmi8mH+L54fp+T0 tFMheekOy+Zp+Cyn8QoVz/W/sNZ8zXo6ugzw1MvHAL9bpr7+M0nq7hqeOv0/MtJVzNdBCXGV4 IEt3jJFTf1R8XkfyeXSj4nSNGiy2nx8SqdPh8zXz7GhvNRZRJCCHUcQExmtZuo0I08Zl5YTV7 TUv2pB+KJTya+JPCulIb8BKFcVh/iKl8zbLSttUUV5eAspomhNMu8+H6uQhkx8SNe/kEXcZJP 0LsB7IFlial94BCOyHVsDPHB3Uhx3uUXMotwaJFtC4IiGrKr0OL0CYROrsSyV4NjMo4nE0xQw b5DI9qUMk0I1HPcYlbrr346kDC7VMszETrI2ET2bIid9EDhaEI7wttDRhBuYld4ByQl7uKVWO FLExxdHuBvHIgtHm3igz65RHWoDg3trNF95a3CairXwhFSzdxnFyYMHaa8p32g8+mJCxty6V7 3DpJ6yrwjuc+/AwFA0T4HNA2luUiCdgvG/ip1fWZTWTTozl81wJ2ss3tOZNIWRskzRB2pKkFi R/009F2FG9qol8zyMDCi4s6/uq0fVA4yJ1BPdwkEFozO09N8yPuGW7jQAQWKiufYYOkwV9GyU q/zT0fa+UwRAXfeBS9aOS7YVfjspnpixCD5rlLBHcIM5S5t+bfGA7kPua0H/cv4yM4zc8rljA bNvjPM6LXPdGrj4jjkJVXeO1GiXhpXlSayj7hbNF3kfIlgKLS+Ff44ZG0vdDt6bkBalFHg0pp J5S1jNmqYrz8DLHBveQ1cbIxjt0QKW6+T+r7R4MRzY6NA5FO38UE+HGXILzTqnJQsuzYVQp2T 6ee6KqUrGt5ksWQqV5pz/BWLHVx7ZIwyZuwYKXP8UhPu9L+RgWiNFVbY0RJizxYTi13G0Vu13 dQJSzd7FCxO0KkgHtw3g== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Well, it's certainly the most common one, but having more than two > windows in a frame isn't unheard of, either. Right. But how reconcile the two approaches? > I think that makes sense... if you have that mode enabled. But if > you're not asking Emacs to resize windows in this way, then having > `display-buffer' resizing windows is somewhat confusing. The one you cited earlier certainly is. The basic idea is that a window that was good for 'display-buffer' once, should be good again. Unless it shrunk in between. >>> In related news, get-lru-window doesn't seem to work reliably? I don't >>> have a reproducer for that, either, but it seems to happen if I have a >>> three window frame, and I call: >>> >>> (setq lru (get-lru-window (selected-frame) nil t)) >>> (window-bump-use-time lru) >>> (get-lru-window (selected-frame) nil t) >>> >>> will then return the same window as `lru'... >> >> How do you "call"? I suppose there's no chance to make another window >> but the selected one the mru one. We would have to look into the inner >> workings of that "call". > > eval the expressions. Where and how? If you do that in the minibuffer window alone, you should get a result not affected by 'select-window'. Otherwise, all bets are off. martin
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> One problem is that other display-buffer actions don't set
> 'display-buffer-previous-window'. It would be nice to do
> this in some low-level function in window.el.
If this is impossible to add this to window.el then a workaround is
to use such advice that helps to visit grep/xref hits in the window
where all previous hits were visited:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(advice-add 'window--display-buffer :around
(lambda (orig-fun &rest args)
(let ((buffer (current-buffer))
(window (apply orig-fun args)))
(with-current-buffer buffer
(setq-local display-buffer-previous-window window))
window))
'((name . window--display-buffer-set-previous-window)))
(defvar-local display-buffer-previous-window nil)
(defun display-buffer-from-grep-p (_buffer-name _action)
(with-current-buffer (window-buffer)
(derived-mode-p 'compilation-mode)))
(add-to-list 'display-buffer-alist
'(display-buffer-from-grep-p
nil (previous-window . display-buffer-previous-window)))
#+end_src
The only problem is that display-buffer-in-previous-window
doesn't support 'previous-window' as a variable, only as a value,
i.e. currently it only supports:
`(previous-window . ,display-buffer-previous-window)
maybe the following patch could be installed to support also
'(previous-window . display-buffer-previous-window)
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diff --git a/lisp/window.el b/lisp/window.el
index 0a37d16273..d6b3d69b3d 100644
--- a/lisp/window.el
+++ b/lisp/window.el
@@ -8239,6 +8239,7 @@ display-buffer-in-previous-window
0)
(display-buffer-reuse-frames 0)
(t (last-nonminibuffer-frame))))
+ (previous-window (cdr (assq 'previous-window alist)))
best-window second-best-window window)
;; Scan windows whether they have shown the buffer recently.
(catch 'best
@@ -8252,7 +8253,9 @@ display-buffer-in-previous-window
(throw 'best t)))))
;; When ALIST has a `previous-window' entry, that entry may override
;; anything we found so far.
- (when (and (setq window (cdr (assq 'previous-window alist)))
+ (when (and previous-window (boundp previous-window))
+ (setq previous-window (symbol-value previous-window)))
+ (when (and (setq window previous-window)
(window-live-p window)
(or (eq buffer (window-buffer window))
(not (window-dedicated-p window))))
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Full text available.Received: (at 45688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2021 17:59:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 19 12:59:10 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51593 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1l1vHa-0002Wf-07 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2021 12:59:10 -0500 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:52743) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1l1vHV-0002VP-N4 for 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2021 12:59:06 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.98.64 Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-98-64.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.98.64]) (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F34681C0007; Tue, 19 Jan 2021 17:58:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#45688: 28.0.50; New action for display-buffer? Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y2h6133r.fsf@HIDDEN> <8735ze0yp7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83o8i20w1f.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfd5yny9.fsf@HIDDEN> <a25dc85e-cd8e-8164-676e-bb6a0f381c06@HIDDEN> <87o8i03gem.fsf@HIDDEN> <528b7d6b-403a-ffef-b0a0-4a0b6d92bec8@HIDDEN> <87turpvxv0.fsf@HIDDEN> <fe796e77-3248-b3fc-0f1b-35b12761e860@HIDDEN> <fb97d5c9-91eb-b8ce-5639-1a875bf40ae9@HIDDEN> <87turnh6u8.fsf@HIDDEN> <b9059f39-b3af-3ec7-c0ee-d1a493a3a2f5@HIDDEN> <87im83cn02.fsf@HIDDEN> <568151d0-c8fd-1643-56a7-87ff36ce234d@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 19:50:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <568151d0-c8fd-1643-56a7-87ff36ce234d@HIDDEN> (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 12 Jan 2021 10:06:45 +0100") Message-ID: <8735ywdf0q.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > If we don't want to do that, we can try to do some cosmetics in the size > restoring mechanism. Basically, that mechanism is used when you display > a temporary buffer in a two windows layout and you have > 'temp-buffer-resize-mode' enabled. Suppose with emacs -Q you enable > that mode and type C-h f push RET and then C-x 4 f to find some file. > This will re-enlarge the window used for showing the 'push' help to its > prior size so you get what you intend for showing that file. I didn't know this trick. But it works only for 'C-x 4 f', not for 'C-x 4 1': with enabled temp-buffer-resize-mode 1. C-h f push RET 2. C-x o TAB 3. C-x 4 1 RET doesn't re-enlarge the window to its prior size.
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References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y2h6133r.fsf@HIDDEN> <8735ze0yp7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83o8i20w1f.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfd5yny9.fsf@HIDDEN> <a25dc85e-cd8e-8164-676e-bb6a0f381c06@HIDDEN> <87o8i03gem.fsf@HIDDEN> <528b7d6b-403a-ffef-b0a0-4a0b6d92bec8@HIDDEN> <87turpvxv0.fsf@HIDDEN> <fe796e77-3248-b3fc-0f1b-35b12761e860@HIDDEN> <fb97d5c9-91eb-b8ce-5639-1a875bf40ae9@HIDDEN> <87turnh6u8.fsf@HIDDEN> <b9059f39-b3af-3ec7-c0ee-d1a493a3a2f5@HIDDEN> <87im83cn02.fsf@HIDDEN> <568151d0-c8fd-1643-56a7-87ff36ce234d@HIDDEN> X-Now-Playing: Ultra =?utf-8?Q?Nat=C3=A9's?= _Blue Notes in the Basement_: "Funny (How Things Change)" Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 04:26:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <568151d0-c8fd-1643-56a7-87ff36ce234d@HIDDEN> (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 12 Jan 2021 10:06:45 +0100") Message-ID: <878s8psj2l.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes: > 'display-buffer' still lives in the paradigm of <= 2 windows frames set > up in the past century and probably still the only reasonable one for > TTY frames. For that it supports things like 'even-w [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes: > 'display-buffer' still lives in the paradigm of <=3D 2 windows frames set > up in the past century and probably still the only reasonable one for > TTY frames. For that it supports things like 'even-window-heights' and > a 'split-height-threshold' of 80 with its "If, however, a window is the > only window on its frame, or all the other ones are dedicated, > =E2=80=98split-window-sensibly=E2=80=99 may split it vertically disregard= ing the value > of this variable." exception. Hence a first step to get your rampages > produce more reasonable results might be to ask whether that paradigm is > still a valid one. Well, it's certainly the most common one, but having more than two windows in a frame isn't unheard of, either. > If we don't want to do that, we can try to do some cosmetics in the size > restoring mechanism. Basically, that mechanism is used when you display > a temporary buffer in a two windows layout and you have > 'temp-buffer-resize-mode' enabled. Suppose with emacs -Q you enable > that mode and type C-h f push RET and then C-x 4 f to find some file. > This will re-enlarge the window used for showing the 'push' help to its > prior size so you get what you intend for showing that file. I think that makes sense... if you have that mode enabled. But if you're not asking Emacs to resize windows in this way, then having `display-buffer' resizing windows is somewhat confusing. > If we want 'display-buffer-use-some-window' to not do such size > restorations, we can just add a 'do-no-restore-size' alist entry and an > appropriate check like > > (when (and (not (cdr (assq 'do-no-restore-size alist))) > (listp quad) > (integerp (nth 3 quad)) > (> (nth 3 quad) (window-total-height window))) > > 'display-buffer-use-least-recent-window' (and/or the application/user) > could then set that entry at their like. Makes sense. >> In related news, get-lru-window doesn't seem to work reliably? I don't >> have a reproducer for that, either, but it seems to happen if I have a >> three window frame, and I call: >> >> (setq lru (get-lru-window (selected-frame) nil t)) >> (window-bump-use-time lru) >> (get-lru-window (selected-frame) nil t) >> >> will then return the same window as `lru'... > > How do you "call"? I suppose there's no chance to make another window > but the selected one the mru one. We would have to look into the inner > workings of that "call". eval the expressions. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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>> We're asking too much from 'display-buffer' here. It can't second-guess
>> a user's intentions in particular with the interpretation of grep and
>> xref hits. I see three basic patterns here:
>
> I'm wondering whether there should be a separate
> `display-buffer-command' that's bound to `C-x 4 C-o' with its own
> display rules. :-) That is, when the user is using this command
> explicitly, then it's not obvious that the user wants the same rules as
> with the "automatic" display-buffer stuff (popping from *grep* buffers
> and the like).
Currently I'm using windmove-display-* group of commands to
instruct display-buffer where I want to display the buffer, e.g.:
's-<down> C-o' to open a grep/xref hit in the bottom window,
's-<left> C-o' to open a grep/xref hit in the left window, etc.
It's quite tedious to type that prefix before every key that
visits a grep hit. What is still missing is some kind of DWIM
to make display-buffer smarter.
Here is what seems to work to visit grep/xref hits in the same window
where all previous hits were visited:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(defun display-buffer-from-grep-p (_buffer-name _action)
(with-current-buffer (window-buffer)
(derived-mode-p 'compilation-mode)))
(push '(display-buffer-from-grep-p display-buffer-reuse-previous-window)
display-buffer-alist)
(defvar-local display-buffer-previous-window nil)
(defun display-buffer-reuse-previous-window (buffer alist)
"Display BUFFER in the same window that was already used as destination."
(let ((window display-buffer-previous-window))
(if (window-live-p window)
(window--display-buffer buffer window 'reuse alist)
(setq window (display-buffer-use-some-window
buffer (cons (cons 'inhibit-same-window t) alist)))
(setq-local display-buffer-previous-window window)
window)))
#+end_src
One problem is that other display-buffer actions don't set
'display-buffer-previous-window'. It would be nice to do
this in some low-level function in window.el.
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> This fixes the reproducer, but not the case of actually jumping around=
> manually -- `M-x display-buffer' sometimes chooses to resize the
> windows. :-/
Have you ever read the Elisp manual where it says
=E2=80=98display-buffer=E2=80=99 is not overly well suited for disp=
laying several
buffers in sequence and making sure that all these buffers are
shown orderly in the resulting window configuration. Again, the
standard action functions =E2=80=98display-buffer-pop-up-window=E2=80=
=99 and
=E2=80=98display-buffer-use-some-window=E2=80=99 are not very suite=
d for this
purpose due to their somewhat chaotic nature in more complex
configurations.
Maybe you bumped into this with your experiments, in particular when
trying to reuse a window that you've already used before.
'display-buffer' still lives in the paradigm of <=3D 2 windows frames set=
up in the past century and probably still the only reasonable one for
TTY frames. For that it supports things like 'even-window-heights' and
a 'split-height-threshold' of 80 with its "If, however, a window is the
only window on its frame, or all the other ones are dedicated,
=E2=80=98split-window-sensibly=E2=80=99 may split it vertically disregard=
ing the value
of this variable." exception. Hence a first step to get your rampages
produce more reasonable results might be to ask whether that paradigm is
still a valid one.
If we don't want to do that, we can try to do some cosmetics in the size
restoring mechanism. Basically, that mechanism is used when you display
a temporary buffer in a two windows layout and you have
'temp-buffer-resize-mode' enabled. Suppose with emacs -Q you enable
that mode and type C-h f push RET and then C-x 4 f to find some file.
This will re-enlarge the window used for showing the 'push' help to its
prior size so you get what you intend for showing that file.
If we want 'display-buffer-use-some-window' to not do such size
restorations, we can just add a 'do-no-restore-size' alist entry and an
appropriate check like
(when (and (not (cdr (assq 'do-no-restore-size alist)))
(listp quad)
(integerp (nth 3 quad))
(> (nth 3 quad) (window-total-height window)))
'display-buffer-use-least-recent-window' (and/or the application/user)
could then set that entry at their like.
> In related news, get-lru-window doesn't seem to work reliably? I don'=
t
> have a reproducer for that, either, but it seems to happen if I have a=
> three window frame, and I call:
>
> (setq lru (get-lru-window (selected-frame) nil t))
> (window-bump-use-time lru)
> (get-lru-window (selected-frame) nil t)
>
> will then return the same window as `lru'...
How do you "call"? I suppose there's no chance to make another window
but the selected one the mru one. We would have to look into the inner
workings of that "call".
martin
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martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes:
>> Here's a reproducer from emacs -Q:
>>
>> (progn
>> (setq display-buffer-alist '((".*"
>> display-buffer-use-least-recent-window)))
>> (pop-to-buffer "file1")
>> (pop-to-buffer "file2")
>> (split-window-below)
>> (pop-to-buffer "file3"))
>>
>> I end up with the following, and file3 in an oddly large window.
>
> So you have been splicing in a 'split-window-below' between those calls.
> Why didn't you tell me before?
I wasn't -- I was jumping around between windows manually, but that's
the reproducer I came up with.
> 'split-window-below' copies the
> 'quit-restore' parameter to the new window and that's what you get.
>
> Let's try to clean up the height value when copying the 'quit-restore'
> parameter as attached.
This fixes the reproducer, but not the case of actually jumping around
manually -- `M-x display-buffer' sometimes chooses to resize the
windows. :-/
In related news, get-lru-window doesn't seem to work reliably? I don't
have a reproducer for that, either, but it seems to happen if I have a
three window frame, and I call:
(setq lru (get-lru-window (selected-frame) nil t))
(window-bump-use-time lru)
(get-lru-window (selected-frame) nil t)
will then return the same window as `lru'...
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> Let's try to clean up the height value when copying the 'quit-restore'
> parameter as attached.
Just found a related bug in the code. When 'display-buffer' makes a new
window on the left or right, it sets that value to the window's width
which doesn't make any sense. The current code can handle only height
values as for 'shrink-window-if-larger-than-buffer' or the default
'fit-window-to-buffer'. So please use the patch attached here.
martin
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diff --git a/lisp/window.el b/lisp/window.el
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+++ b/lisp/window.el
@@ -5543,10 +5543,12 @@ split-window-below
Otherwise, the window starts are chosen so as to minimize the
amount of redisplay; this is convenient on slow terminals."
(interactive "P")
- (let ((old-window (selected-window))
- (old-point (window-point))
- (size (and size (prefix-numeric-value size)))
- moved-by-window-height moved new-window bottom)
+ (let* ((old-window (selected-window))
+ (old-point (window-point))
+ (size (and size (prefix-numeric-value size)))
+ (quit-restore (window-parameter old-window 'quit-restore))
+ (quad (nth 1 quit-restore))
+ moved-by-window-height moved new-window bottom)
(when (and size (< size 0) (< (- size) window-min-height))
;; `split-window' would not signal an error here.
(error "Size of new window too small"))
@@ -5574,10 +5576,18 @@ split-window-below
(<=3D (window-start new-window) old-point)
(set-window-point new-window old-point)
(select-window new-window))))
- ;; Always copy quit-restore parameter in interactive use.
- (let ((quit-restore (window-parameter old-window 'quit-restore)))
- (when quit-restore
- (set-window-parameter new-window 'quit-restore quit-restore)))
+
+ (when quit-restore
+ (when (and (listp quad) (integerp (nth 3 quad)))
+ ;; nth 3 of quad is the old-window height of OLD-WINDOW. This
+ ;; value is meaningless in NEW-WINDOW so set it to the present
+ ;; height of NEW-WINDOW.
+ (setq quit-restore (copy-tree quit-restore))
+ (rplaca (cdddr (nth 1 quit-restore))
+ (window-total-height new-window)))
+
+ (set-window-parameter new-window 'quit-restore quit-restore))
+
new-window))
(defalias 'split-window-vertically 'split-window-below)
@@ -6440,9 +6450,7 @@ display-buffer-record-window
;; Preserve window-point-insertion-type (Bug#12855).
(copy-marker
(window-point window) window-point-insertion-type)
- (if (window-combined-p window)
- (window-total-height window)
- (window-total-width window)))
+ (window-total-height window))
(selected-window) buffer)))))
((eq type 'window)
;; WINDOW has been created on an existing frame.
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> I put some messaging in that code, and it is indeed that bit that does
> the resizing.
>
> Here's a reproducer from emacs -Q:
>
> (progn
> (setq display-buffer-alist '((".*" display-buffer-use-least-recent-window)))
> (pop-to-buffer "file1")
> (pop-to-buffer "file2")
> (split-window-below)
> (pop-to-buffer "file3"))
>
> I end up with the following, and file3 in an oddly large window.
So you have been splicing in a 'split-window-below' between those calls.
Why didn't you tell me before? 'split-window-below' copies the
'quit-restore' parameter to the new window and that's what you get.
Let's try to clean up the height value when copying the 'quit-restore'
parameter as attached.
martin
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+++ b/lisp/window.el
@@ -5528,6 +5528,24 @@ split-window-keep-point
:type 'boolean
:group 'windows)
+(defun window--split-window-quit-restore (old-window new-window)
+ "Copy 'quit-restore' parameter to new window after splitting.
+OLD-WINDOW is the window that was split, NEW-WINDOW is the new
+window. This cleans up any height value that could be used to
+restore the old height of NEW-WINDOW in a later invocation of
+`display-buffer'."
+ (let* ((quit-restore (window-parameter old-window 'quit-restore))
+ (quad (nth 1 quit-restore)))
+ (when quit-restore
+ (when (and (listp quad) (integerp (nth 3 quad)))
+ ;; nth 3 of quad is the old-window height of OLD-WINDOW. This
+ ;; value is meaningless in NEW-WINDOW so set it to the present
+ ;; height of NEW-WINDOW.
+ (setq quit-restore (copy-tree quit-restore))
+ (rplaca (cdddr (nth 1 quit-restore)) (window-total-height new-win=
dow)))
+
+ (set-window-parameter new-window 'quit-restore quit-restore))))
+
(defun split-window-below (&optional size)
"Split the selected window into two windows, one above the other.
The selected window is above. The newly split-off window is
@@ -5575,9 +5593,7 @@ split-window-below
(set-window-point new-window old-point)
(select-window new-window))))
;; Always copy quit-restore parameter in interactive use.
- (let ((quit-restore (window-parameter old-window 'quit-restore)))
- (when quit-restore
- (set-window-parameter new-window 'quit-restore quit-restore)))
+ (window--split-window-quit-restore old-window new-window)
new-window))
(defalias 'split-window-vertically 'split-window-below)
@@ -5604,9 +5620,7 @@ split-window-right
(error "Size of new window too small"))
(setq new-window (split-window nil size t))
;; Always copy quit-restore parameter in interactive use.
- (let ((quit-restore (window-parameter old-window 'quit-restore)))
- (when quit-restore
- (set-window-parameter new-window 'quit-restore quit-restore)))
+ (window--split-window-quit-restore old-window new-window)
new-window))
(defalias 'split-window-horizontally 'split-window-right)
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Content preview: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes: > Sorry, no. Please
assert first that the backsizing gets done inside the > following chunk:
> > (when (and (listp quad) > (integerp (nth 3 quad)) > (> (nth 3 quad)
(window-total-height window))) > (c [...]
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martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes:
> Sorry, no. Please assert first that the backsizing gets done inside the
> following chunk:
>
> (when (and (listp quad)
> (integerp (nth 3 quad))
> (> (nth 3 quad) (window-total-height window)))
> (condition-case nil
> (window-resize window (- (nth 3 quad) (window-total-height window)))
> (error nil)))
>
> Then we can try to find out who created that quad before and why.
I put some messaging in that code, and it is indeed that bit that does
the resizing.
Here's a reproducer from emacs -Q:
(progn
(setq display-buffer-alist '((".*" display-buffer-use-least-recent-window)))
(pop-to-buffer "file1")
(pop-to-buffer "file2")
(split-window-below)
(pop-to-buffer "file3"))
I end up with the following, and file3 in an oddly large window.
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Then we can try to find out who created that quad before and why.
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>> This
>>
>> + (when-let ((window (display-buffer-use-some-window
>> + buffer (cons (cons 'inhibit-same-window t) alist))))
>> + (window-bump-use-time window)))
>>
>> alone will bump the use time for a _reused_ window only. A freshly
>> popped up window will continue to be the first candidate for reuse and
>> only then enter the cycle of windows to reuse.
>
> How do we bump the use to for a new window, then?
By bumping the time stamp of _any_ window 'display-buffer' uses for
displaying a buffer (just like XEmacs does).
>> XEmacs treats _all_ windows it creates or uses equal in this regard
>> including those on other frames.
>
> Oh, other frames, too... I think we'll leave that as an exercise for
> the reader.
Then when you switch from one frame to another, any problems you've
found on the previous frame will immediately reemerge on the new frame.
>>> The only oddity is that it'll resize windows to their previous sizes --
>>> is there any way to inhibit that?
>>
>> How comes that window gets ever resized in the first place?
>
> I have no idea, but it's totally repeatable -- the window that's
> switched to becomes the largest window, and it's rather distracting.
Please put some silly function on 'window-size-change-functions' and
make it produce a backtrace.
martin
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A freshly > popped up window will continue to be the first candidate for reuse and > only then enter the cycle of windows to reuse. How do we bump the use to for a new window, then? > XEmacs treats _all_ windows it creates or uses equal in this regard > including those on other frames. Oh, other frames, too... I think we'll leave that as an exercise for the reader. >> The only oddity is that it'll resize windows to their previous sizes -- >> is there any way to inhibit that? > > How comes that window gets ever resized in the first place? I have no idea, but it's totally repeatable -- the window that's switched to becomes the largest window, and it's rather distracting. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN>, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y2h6133r.fsf@HIDDEN> <8735ze0yp7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83o8i20w1f.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfd5yny9.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ft3cpoy9.fsf@HIDDEN> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <6859d73c-da77-af77-481f-3046d5195d53@HIDDEN> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 09:31:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87ft3cpoy9.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:2Ej5oNb+xTJCj/KLJ+oxU+hISItxYJG7BPggOTo7MobjHmp8f6I iEY3SmuZZYEHy8K6p/fE4HW2xnC9Qvh1X4TxgHwo1+Yw0WlctnCeEcQAb/ixOw2iC+MXLZ0 KaMgRtCmz6VHDd5fBXQEwDCpOxlagGehcC/npVJA5977H643R6YU3lpA0KiQ8oEyUfRFkUw 4MYrSIrJyU4/+vAvxgoGg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:d2BlsWh5wBk=:f9OV8dK3lWLxDynRnXvIei RTFK+d85CekkoFZjiGiyMBPbxUriGqmc6Q42XDizAlKs9oCMXhQ9/mQGJP28A7jnAoWQL+HCz zSvkPKlZ+f2pTItjyPYyDkAkzm2dO8/p9ldUB01sGn/oXquIm9mJWaLFfgnt+CrNFvQufMD/r 6va89sfuasKTFzX3swVeirl6bcQCp3CcwuDKeq0ficrvjfngn9+jEbz5XCNoVfUmhnFtSG35S BIHJOEU7Qvj3GZXkfFAMR0Ms/rMOtF7+zSU76OnNVPyPo0/1HEzx+xDoHWqmyVOsF57rgw2TY 3+u24zu2hf6GBhkp/+hPB8BvOxnSEnE0LnNDR/XkXMN+JwuLXoIH9QqahaHpg4JyIK67I43RL Ri3j2m02lsC0RYKZooP5Fjy+QZ+Mw74NZKOd8dBqZAOItQo1DaW1mnNZT/xOPEn2OSLXcyrSq hfcLFTpJVgk0hG/49qEUNuK57Ogq1bkmyA0bJ++H9w9CHQ2qC7GImL9LMsVqrNgPDv3g3s4wY 1VvuKfG2eBcXOoukOpnPmwYK1a2G+bdI8SJ1m7o339pIkAHPA7RyBjN3RzutWjxIxSdf8k/HI 1PiaPRzy4POTE2U/+bg1L28ILW9c58FnauB9PmMZ9HXhGMEywAQcYdF/oxLpTUguMkm3bOFAP KLe71Cy5rmC6ElZ6KE8YaJd9dccIGC70/WYSKFYPnvuhm2HgIb1+DXTJdKCVWy3YC3IPnyF1U wgxM8Er91Nf0f1lwgEslnJgF9Z8RxwAdkUBGVF1RppbAQ0krbq9zhkz5uVTt7jwVdKwJ3qRz2 TG/FS0u9TbBMrT7VRoh4pMTRVcE/YHXYPdamdptQlCsbS72K36tdVusOa26whm9v7Q+//J8pF yATx+lCbITNL7D5OF7BQ== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > XEmacs does absolutely the wrong thing. When I have a window > with a source buffer, then run grep in another window, then > want to visit grep hits in the third window, visiting > the next file from the grep window obscures the window > with the source buffer, it doesn't use the same window > where I'm visiting grep hits. We're asking too much from 'display-buffer' here. It can't second-guess a user's intentions in particular with the interpretation of grep and xref hits. I see three basic patterns here: - a hit is detected in a buffer currently shown but that window's point is the position where I want to continue to work - show the hit in another window, - a hit is detected in a buffer currently shown and I don't care about that window's current point - move that window's point to the hit, - one or a few hits are already shown in windows and I would like to either compare them or at least for the moment not lose any of these windows (no matter how small they are) - try popping up yet another window. Do you have more? In either case, I cannot generally predict beforehand which of these will apply in a specific situation so I'd like to see some versatile grep/xref-DWIM layer that handles these patterns ad hoc, possibly assisted by some simple M-g binding. But we have to identify all potentially useful patterns first. > I tried to replace get-lru-window with get-mru-window > but it selects the current window which is mru indeed, > but makes no sense - what is needed is mru-1, then > I tried to set the arg NOT-SELECTED of get-mru-window to t > in display-buffer-use-some-window, then it works sensibly. Neither of these will catch all needs: mru-ish replaces the previous hit found, lru-ish the oldest hit found so far. Any of these might be the most interesting one found so far. martin
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> By the way, the example in the Emacs manual is this:
>
> (customize-set-variable
> 'display-buffer-alist
> '("\\*scratch\\*" (display-buffer-same-window)))
>
> Which isn't an alist?
Darn. No wonder that people complain. Maybe we should use one of the
examples from the Zen of Buffer Display. In either case this is for
Emacs 27.2!
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Full text available.Received: (at 45688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2021 16:54:52 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 07 11:54:52 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48434 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kxYYl-0001sz-JQ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 11:54:52 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:39637) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <rudalics@HIDDEN>) id 1kxYYh-0001sk-9g for 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 11:54:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1610038481; bh=TdEpSBH53cbr73SbqkApF5zLuj0KeQpnQJ3FzLWFXYw=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=UP2etWbh++U9SOJJyA5kBy5+ra3YER/EoAvVkKGyJnW1UCzPgO8J9gjXVE5VPyfid WKBCTHbq9kTjfelwmanW9BMAuF5PxnPXAgQUsWaovxD97OJwia75LSZLT3OwCpr7/M jtGRJQCZuH53eoz6XG2UQGSAPZvD5u0rszxkaKT8= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.167]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MeCpR-1kMZNf3oBj-00bJcU; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 17:54:41 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#45688: 28.0.50; New action for display-buffer? To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y2h6133r.fsf@HIDDEN> <8735ze0yp7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83o8i20w1f.fsf@HIDDEN> <87lfd5yny9.fsf@HIDDEN> <a25dc85e-cd8e-8164-676e-bb6a0f381c06@HIDDEN> <87o8i03gem.fsf@HIDDEN> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <528b7d6b-403a-ffef-b0a0-4a0b6d92bec8@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 17:54:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87o8i03gem.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Di/NoxjHvNpzYGq5buA8pUiBFnwBnH7WV7GrgQ554pwq0C9gLh1 UO/wCnAQWmvA0OnsbtZRjOoS0jXv2/JzJxV0MkVQbdRpEeacllwPqn3YRBiu5KufBdMFQ/M dov2KSsMpVczUojrNFgstKdgt6/3MUK8TqJY+e4K2H5T1jlIlTSzOJaWf0nr83HwQD/2Qrc 0IJefK+d15wl6VSlwIY6w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:jRX5E+dJDH8=:wV/G2jn+AAMowU5uv49/12 2sGoIsfDOkrIdW1e0TccaB175ECvtVAUd1Psv0EUm1iaZ6cMz1N53AJBpEqaYrJgDdswOdNBT 95gnI9jIRDbFVOik0WOJI6Qm4M/SLr9GCgON+1KNutx2OkDzi631vPHCs+6uYQHbUyWb0QpRY UhASVP/u+7sfWKIjYih8whlq+/Ebvt9Mv2UWG7p8w6fJ8+c9nzkH7JGX0n6M9dWCwNieNKVKv YWgL+oJH3tsct7quHU4bTaBITafk8d9KkEsNQoxX7FBF/skk+rph/kAQIzojlvFScZk2M98Py llqCN0G4m2nZBZ+KWgGU1qGXhViiEHnmYfF4VHXIenxynJebfvEQ2djWagp+7pc8RiGyy0l7Z EnDAik9MXpJp6h9HFain+8zrZo4CHTubnNsZwWKSkM/pPu2g/aGnAxp3xj/0gSCysB9j7/eoI Xp0pZibTjB9+xSU8BuDlZw48EDXBshot7Z4pzrhag4RY6SozXuVhUN+TBMjHNPMg/vlLvjpRK QDscQWiASpEn0wIuAFy+RNvFypDs6yH482kWldkq8MD4jKevrs3pBWTbwnoqdrab74f2hwWis KE/ec4wxgIN6AAFYjKHb7yOfYjjTpUyunMPOrn93tZMp775RIIZWJnoIEhXFzsLALmPSPsl1D sUgjiV6WygFG0Rk6b8c4wRFAID1D/dDXBDkoRhhdjHRC23XNJn2dK7BnKwZMX47itbvIhZScu g7siIkdMRgud9NfxfLQm2HwJEFeTrNgUwAt6dALWYLhnMrPu4FU6zZcnSE7NqDIZtrEcplM5W fALd8NqwMkgYPBaWbKH/xII3ow46HScwq2W4KRlVLsS4P6AfTzG+gVEZj7IOYuTMzESGcVRXH P8vjBK0Q5CZg/Rm9Actw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN>, 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > But with this setting: > > (setq display-buffer-base-action '(display-buffer-use-least-recent-window)) > > it's quite XEmacs-like? But this should be expressed in terms of `display-buffer-alist'. > I think? At least in my tests. So now we've > got that all-important ex-XEmacs market segment covered. This + (when-let ((window (display-buffer-use-some-window + buffer (cons (cons 'inhibit-same-window t) alist)))) + (window-bump-use-time window))) alone will bump the use time for a _reused_ window only. A freshly popped up window will continue to be the first candidate for reuse and only then enter the cycle of windows to reuse. XEmacs treats _all_ windows it creates or uses equal in this regard including those on other frames. > The only oddity is that it'll resize windows to their previous sizes -- > is there any way to inhibit that? How comes that window gets ever resized in the first place? martin
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martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes:
> Sorry, I didn't notice that you've pushed that already. So
>
> +To change which window is used, set `display-buffer-base-action'
> +to a list containing one of these \"action\" functions:
>
> is another wrong interpretation
:-)
> - a user should not set (or at least not start with setting)
> `display-buffer-base-action'. The user's domain is
> `display-buffer-alist' the application's domain is the ACTION
> argument. Please try to stick to these two, maybe not even mentioning
> the rest at all.
I've now changed it to `display-buffer-alist'.
By the way, the example in the Emacs manual is this:
(customize-set-variable
'display-buffer-alist
'("\\*scratch\\*" (display-buffer-same-window)))
Which isn't an alist?
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Sorry; I meant "use the window". > Add a function say 'window-bump-use-time' that does > > w->use_time = ++window_select_count; > > and call that from `display-buffer'. Thanks! I've now pushed this -- like I said, my familiarity with this area in Emacs is approx. nil, so if this implementation is beyond stupid, please feel free to pipe up. :-) But with this setting: (setq display-buffer-base-action '(display-buffer-use-least-recent-window)) it's quite XEmacs-like? I think? At least in my tests. So now we've got that all-important ex-XEmacs market segment covered. The only oddity is that it'll resize windows to their previous sizes -- is there any way to inhibit that? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> <6d33f679-925e-78ee-2055-0520538f48f5@HIDDEN> <87ble217jy.fsf@HIDDEN> <8bc28c07-a4af-f58d-97f5-9d0a89ff58fe@HIDDEN> <87h7ntynpx.fsf@HIDDEN> <616655cc-9b87-cb93-6787-11e7037e8cbc@HIDDEN> <87sg7c3isu.fsf@HIDDEN> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <3a1fc415-75f1-8b91-216d-0cad63a3eaa0@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 16:17:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87sg7c3isu.fsf@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:5LcPDLalYl3P4KfS3IzjOz3zuuHVJEINfofUdQkUeZulzKZScRd S210t49r9LL4Qn/wymw52fz6u47Rc40SngVDxzRCrR0QbScmVHMJHs/lP3H92lk2YP0Tv/b JMo4q9cSGiMjJlBVwvc285t+nDr6T1dm1Y7dDt5LDRWJs8RYgYXAQTtST5pfJQHPGuKovb4 B4IsB4W+DeAsJN5jt5iVQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:jhBigScxzBI=:zOlScZBf2R9AOi3NYqr8qL GPn+Ov2RZlCx/hVA0ibtIXqSssPYp1O2iNYhW/0oLUcEU511JVWGx0JTxecDwmAxVcvZQufMv OQiNQUdgCMaTMjBE66zT/QhdKtq7jQS1nFJYFLXfVKVGS8pf3nszcdcTVr4RQdzN6wT4OGuNS wp2C2MEM59HV1T0JAJCpWhycHPmFKfTgrYX4k4TM+2a8lrlwFwnz+CFv4f+4BJ4ve3hE9biJm wkJlwJBZ2QNRONqqSfiqG02cQDz0dl5e7OKgoa8B6z81hNFTlOU5xvIlbkFc8Qwy/xpH4Bwxa KZLFO2RhHjqXoNB5XEeD3ptFbFlW+akvBnv6mUcguwmL57W/Z6HGaRF5kgesVhmpRmei6OZHd mkogVLAzI6em3WYiRu8S9foRslGao7zfk3mdJ49yQxBLtZTjz3RLuXXk4ntdb41wt867UdOvl w8tZ3DxBUS2UvtVqbYmtNdqYB9Lne27pgcohF+b+8fUUxIhIqGNeXPpNkWlg9caTFBBSVvBZ8 mBpbAJyHQsXy/97UVbQWWMOKlbqbCLmkkg37l31jIHFVCliQcNhVd7funj8bcQDrnhEYUW46/ hIXRQOPi3fy9hj6qtjo+w+P33r6joAhvT8R/31JZE/xUQ9rbMe0c8GcryCnvSsihmU/iLkO/Z 1mAURB62ZwO0fPsTtNFk/n14Fnv15AX1OC+2Zulm/Y/4We4Nayc0Nj2d+E76C9EircypL2gIV BdA6Ql5Q6iQI6ddCfjWRUyk+/gaKPNVuNheknRVS5HagHyZ4ZteNkQlpmlCZrxlyEm4lqkKCo gg9h39uUE/JtJyovvT6hJdwckpyFXJPjPoBWC6xLdkp267VcHWA23uslJ7HyTUfBBvTaTVmBE KmjJGXUTmLxBAVcEdPeQ== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> By no means. `display-buffer-overriding-action' is _not_ intended fo= r >> the user. It's an emergency exit for applications. Better not even >> mention it in the user manual and the doc-string. > > See, I didn't even get that bit from the doc string. :-) Given that 'display-buffer-overriding-action' figures first in =E2=80=98display-buffer=E2=80=99 builds a list of action functions and= an action alist by combining any action functions and alists specified by =E2=80=98display-buffer-overriding-action=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98display-b= uffer-alist=E2=80=99, the ACTION argument, =E2=80=98display-buffer-base-action=E2=80=99, and =E2=80=98display-buffer-fallback-action=E2=80=99 (in order). Then it = calls each function in the combined function list in turn, passing the buffer as the first argument and the combined action alist as the second argument, until one of the functions returns non-nil. your interpretation is quite logical. The problem here is that we talk in operative terms like "builds" "combining" "calls" "passing" which hardly contributes anything to the understanding of an average user. In a first approximation it should suffice to talk here about `display-buffer-alist' and the ACTION argument only and ... >> In every other regard, feel free to change it in a way that sounds le= ss >> imitating. For example, listing the action functions and alist entri= es >> in the doc-string is merely distracting. We started out with small s= ets >> and every time a new function or entry was added, we also added it to= >> those lists. > > It's an overwhelming doc string, but I think listing the action > functions is one of the best bits about it. :-) =2E.. here I'd just say what they can do - reuse the selected window, a window showing the buffer already, some other window, pop up a new window on this or another frame. > I've now shuffled it > to the front, and given a bit more introductory text to make it sound > less intimidating. > >> And while you're there you could try to make the Emacs >> manual entry more amenable for its audience. IIUC that's what the bl= og >> you mentioned criticized even more than the doc-string. > > Yeah, the manual is rather abrupt here, too, but the entire thing is > really complicated, and caters for many different use cases, so I don'= t > really even know where to begin. By dropping what you understand least. If this makes it an empty entrance, start from scratch with what you wanted to know first. If anything is incorrect, I'll fix it. But making this readable for a user is next to impossible, at least for me (I'm repeating myself whenever I talk about this subject). Have a look at the Elisp manual where I try, maybe it helps. martin
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Reininger's _Live in Brussels_: "track" Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:47:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <616655cc-9b87-cb93-6787-11e7037e8cbc@HIDDEN> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 7 Jan 2021 14:18:04 +0100") Message-ID: <87sg7c3isu.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes: > By no means. `display-buffer-overriding-action' is _not_ intended for > the user. It's an emergency exit for applications. Better not even > mention it in the user manual and the doc-string. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes: > By no means. `display-buffer-overriding-action' is _not_ intended for > the user. It's an emergency exit for applications. Better not even > mention it in the user manual and the doc-string. See, I didn't even get that bit from the doc string. :-) > In every other regard, feel free to change it in a way that sounds less > imitating. For example, listing the action functions and alist entries > in the doc-string is merely distracting. We started out with small sets > and every time a new function or entry was added, we also added it to > those lists. It's an overwhelming doc string, but I think listing the action functions is one of the best bits about it. :-) I've now shuffled it to the front, and given a bit more introductory text to make it sound less intimidating. > And while you're there you could try to make the Emacs > manual entry more amenable for its audience. IIUC that's what the blog > you mentioned criticized even more than the doc-string. Yeah, the manual is rather abrupt here, too, but the entire thing is really complicated, and caters for many different use cases, so I don't really even know where to begin. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Would it ma= ke > sense to rearrange it a bit? That is, start off with something like: > > ----- > > Display BUFFER-OR-NAME in some window, without selecting it. To chang= e > what window is used, set `display-buffer-overriding-action' to a list > containing one or more of the following functions: > > Action functions and the action they try to perform are: > =E2=80=98display-buffer-same-window=E2=80=99 -- Use the selected win= dow. > =E2=80=98display-buffer-reuse-window=E2=80=99 -- Use a window alread= y showing > the buffer. > =E2=80=98display-buffer-in-previous-window=E2=80=99 -- Use a window = that did > show the buffer before. > > etc etc, and then give the details about ACTION and the rest? By no means. `display-buffer-overriding-action' is _not_ intended for the user. It's an emergency exit for applications. Better not even mention it in the user manual and the doc-string. In every other regard, feel free to change it in a way that sounds less imitating. For example, listing the action functions and alist entries in the doc-string is merely distracting. We started out with small sets and every time a new function or entry was added, we also added it to those lists. And while you're there you could try to make the Emacs manual entry more amenable for its audience. IIUC that's what the blog you mentioned criticized even more than the doc-string. martin
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> As Martin explained, display-buffer-use-some-window almost does this,
> but since switching to the buffer doesn't count as "use", it doesn't
> work for this particular use case.
Switching to the buffer does count as "use" but 'display-buffer' doesn't
switch to the buffer because it doesn't select it.
> Adding another action here (that just calls
> display-buffer-use-some-window, but then marks the window as having been
> used) seems trivial, so I think I'll try doing that and see what that
> feels like.
Add a function say 'window-bump-use-time' that does
w->use_time = ++window_select_count;
and call that from `display-buffer'.
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martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes:
> You really have to "use" such a window which means selecting it. Just
> displaying a buffer in a window does not count as using it.
Ah, thanks. That makes sense; I'll try playing around with a new action
that calls display-buffer-use-some-window, but marks the window as
having been used.
I've never actually encountered this bit of Emacs before -- I'm just
using the defaults for all the window stuff. :-)
I think the doc string for `display-buffer' is pretty intimidating now,
and seems more geared towards programmers than usage now. Would it make
sense to rearrange it a bit? That is, start off with something like:
-----
Display BUFFER-OR-NAME in some window, without selecting it. To change
what window is used, set `display-buffer-overriding-action' to a list
containing one or more of the following functions:
Action functions and the action they try to perform are:
=E2=80=98display-buffer-same-window=E2=80=99 -- Use the selected window.
=E2=80=98display-buffer-reuse-window=E2=80=99 -- Use a window already show=
ing
the buffer.
=E2=80=98display-buffer-in-previous-window=E2=80=99 -- Use a window that d=
id
show the buffer before.
etc etc, and then give the details about ACTION and the rest?
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References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y2h6133r.fsf@HIDDEN> <8735ze0yp7.fsf@HIDDEN> <83o8i20w1f.fsf@HIDDEN> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEX03LSVgWXr2rwU DgheTjv////FslQwAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+UBBwsVA4gDadcAAAGSSURBVDjLfZSL ba0wDIah6gC1yQBNYIEce4HE3n+m2uYQ0it6LUUR+cjvJyzLn7ZCBvC1Anz9Rh/ftpbvh0t240kL M5lhmS1A2RzU8+QAvIE44DjPDO0GRENrr5NUPkH3A2H8DZQDZFIoOID50PQGUHKfnDeAAAdpOXCS 6keJqHYL7ph9VCgRzmbpjHDXZElAPoMizq8BItZQzkr16EPKK8Lqj6BS97sku50LRz1UmvQ8AY1S baIta4cbsAQgA0XB6/v2oQF2FuUJrJY4eY02NsmiaYDohiiwbQZae4PPANqS+g6cFPEGppVFSCwM SAinlAZgEK+NmDfUE0Ail4dmO3trGp/AmuHvYknUvGdyAVXLgyyWjVLEofUCPj/N5+4cJKp3Htar ttNlrykPae0YoM8JYsEBKk43sNSYYYicpszxiJikC6Wab8CweZp02At98mHTcV70ofuniNfM7zam M7gC+gu8TKo8AYaij4BsdFN/ArUAJnwADPZ5pqtRbgrDlvVr/DNK8XUN5//tozz9XpYf84OP1yk2 CiQAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMDEtMDdUMTE6MjE6MDIrMDA6MDBRB4E6AAAAJXRF WHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTAxLTA3VDExOjIxOjAyKzAwOjAwIFo5hgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Jon Eberson Group's _Stories_: "So Much Better" Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 12:40:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83o8i20w1f.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 06 Jan 2021 20:17:48 +0200") Message-ID: <87lfd5yny9.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > I use it myself, when some buffer pops up in a window I use for > another buffer, and fails to pop down (example: *Shell Command > Output*). 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But then why would I want the buffer be displayed in a > random window? Not in a random window, but not in the last-chosen window, either. That way, if you're `display-buffer'-ing a number of buffers, you'll get them all in the other windows, instead of reusing the same one. > I guess I'm missing something here, if this feature is deemed so > important that it caused jwz to post a complete blog about that. It would have been nice if he had been more specific; yes. But the XEmacs behaviour seems quite natural to me -- if you have three windows, and you're working in one, and you want to look at two other buffers at the same time, then the XEmacs `display-buffer' does the right thing for that. As Martin explained, display-buffer-use-some-window almost does this, but since switching to the buffer doesn't count as "use", it doesn't work for this particular use case. Adding another action here (that just calls display-buffer-use-some-window, but then marks the window as having been used) seems trivial, so I think I'll try doing that and see what that feels like. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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>> I was curious how XEmacs did this command, so I installed XEmacs. If
>> there's two (or one) window, the command works the same in Emacs and
>> XEmacs, but it's interesting what XEmacs does when there's more than two
>> windows: It cycles the windows.
>
> This is how Emacs already works - exactly as XEmacs
> it uses get-lru-window that caused a lot of sadness
> for many years. Many times I asked to fix this to
> use get-mru-window instead. Maybe now is a good moment to
> finally change this to work differently from XEmacs.
Emacs doesn't work like XEmacs here. When XEmacs has found a window to
display the buffer in, it does
;; Bring the window's previous buffer to the top of the
;; MRU chain.
(if (window-buffer window)
(save-excursion
(save-selected-window
(select-window window)
(record-buffer (window-buffer window)))))
which selects the window and, as a side effect, updates its use time.
Which makes that window less likely for `display-buffer' to be used
again.
martin
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Full text available.Received: (at 45688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2021 18:28:43 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 06 13:28:43 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45518 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kxDY3-0007wB-5c for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:28:43 -0500 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:40956) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <drew.adams@HIDDEN>) id 1kxDXy-0007vw-SN for 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:28:41 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 106I9Orn193084; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 18:28:32 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=ruh/4RibNnWe0J3EuQTXU60btnhSqBcC+FHM/g2Aakw=; b=RArtjq98tQF4SMiJ9QbOhDih9JKil5L2Yv/O5o2YaQWPudbK1QZamnsy26vsV86pba3k HMaz1CXn33lENRKMOqwy6U6mJx3SoSPXv+e0qnxO3NyZkoDcX50n9qQ6ZkkjpXBna3HD Cd41R+HHL596bW6sWYMYGn7K47x1H8XbRuDuj1hJC1UNsxkWAbe+BKvcNm0MiZYr1KI7 olPwfwomRje2hobYzDJaQ+OBOkVazf+WyNvuBZxnfe+p0vDpLerJSQftyCAFy8MrC0yP 15cnrjgePIHNlWLKVhMBKBfc/i5XQG/g62b8Wv7Zumc+/mGVTeMzTb8m6Qlocez8uwCY hw== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 35wftx8unh-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 06 Jan 2021 18:28:32 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 106IASbv008560; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 18:28:32 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 35v4rd03t0-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 06 Jan 2021 18:28:31 +0000 Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 106ISTBI011859; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 18:28:30 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <82084bed-f646-46a2-b52f-e80b763968b8@default> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 10:28:28 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> To: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN>, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: RE: bug#45688: 28.0.50; New action for display-buffer? References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o8i29eiv.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87o8i29eiv.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5095.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9856 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxlogscore=999 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2101060104 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9856 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 priorityscore=1501 impostorscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2101060104 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Many times I asked to fix this to > use get-mru-window instead. Maybe now is a good moment to > finally change this to work differently from XEmacs. If such a change is made, please provide an option for choosing mru or lru. I suspect that there are a fair number of users and libraries that expect l= ru to be used as the default (first in order), if only because that's been = the case for a long time.
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Full text available.Received: (at 45688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2021 18:17:59 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 06 13:17:59 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45496 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kxDNf-0007g7-Gq for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:17:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58376) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1kxDNe-0007fv-3V for 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:17:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38136) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1kxDNY-0002NV-SM; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:17:52 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2945 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1kxDNX-0004ZH-Vr; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:17:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 20:17:48 +0200 Message-Id: <83o8i20w1f.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <8735ze0yp7.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 06 Jan 2021 18:20:20 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#45688: 28.0.50; New action for display-buffer? References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y2h6133r.fsf@HIDDEN> <8735ze0yp7.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> > Cc: 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 18:20:20 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > > I'm not sure I understand what kind of use case would find the above > > convenient. display-buffer is supposed to be for temporary display of > > some buffer that you soon enough want to go away, so why does it > > matter which buffer it replaces? > > It's a user command (on `C-x 4 C-o'), and apparently some people use it > a lot? I use it myself, when some buffer pops up in a window I use for another buffer, and fails to pop down (example: *Shell Command Output*). But then why would I want the buffer be displayed in a random window? > I've never used it myself, but I see the charm -- if you want > to look at a different buffer while working in the current buffer, it > seems quite convenient. Sure, but once again: why do that in some random window, as opposed to a fixed one? I'm not asking about the utility of display-buffer, I'm asking about this particular aspect: the fact that it doesn't pop up in a fixed window. I guess I'm missing something here, if this feature is deemed so important that it caused jwz to post a complete blog about that.
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Full text available.Received: (at 45688) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2021 18:10:48 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 06 13:10:48 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45465 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1kxDGh-0005O7-S0 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:10:48 -0500 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:53005) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <juri@HIDDEN>) id 1kxDGf-0005Ns-Ks for 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:10:46 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.98.64 Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-98-64.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.98.64]) (Authenticated sender: juri@HIDDEN) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 332CA40007; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 18:10:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov <juri@HIDDEN> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#45688: 28.0.50; New action for display-buffer? Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 19:41:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87im8a1dff.fsf@HIDDEN> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:02:12 +0100") Message-ID: <87o8i29eiv.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Reading this: > > https://www.jwz.org/blog/2021/01/very-much-do-not-have-my-emacs-setup-just-how-i-like-it/ > > I was curious how XEmacs did this command, so I installed XEmacs. If > there's two (or one) window, the command works the same in Emacs and > XEmacs, but it's interesting what XEmacs does when there's more than two > windows: It cycles the windows. This is how Emacs already works - exactly as XEmacs it uses get-lru-window that caused a lot of sadness for many years. Many times I asked to fix this to use get-mru-window instead. Maybe now is a good moment to finally change this to work differently from XEmacs.
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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > I'm not sure I understand what kind of use case would find the above > convenient. display-buffer is supposed to be for temporary display of > some buffer that you soon enough want to go away, so wh [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45688 Cc: 45688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > I'm not sure I understand what kind of use case would find the above > convenient. display-buffer is supposed to be for temporary display of > some buffer that you soon enough want to go away, so why does it > matter which buffer it replaces? It's a user command (on `C-x 4 C-o'), and apparently some people use it a lot? I've never used it myself, but I see the charm -- if you want to look at a different buffer while working in the current buffer, it seems quite convenient. (You don't have to pop back to the original buffer as with `switch-to-buffer-other-window' or the like.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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martin rudalics <rudalics@HIDDEN> writes:
>> =E2=80=98display-buffer-use-some-window=E2=80=99 -- Use some existing =
window.
>
> This would use 'get-lru-window' but if you display always the same small
> set of buffers, 'display-buffer-in-previous-window' prevails.
I tried
(setq display-buffer-overriding-action '(display-buffer-use-some-window))
but I don't see any difference -- display-buffer always uses the same
window when displaying buffers.
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Subject: 28.0.50; New action for display-buffer?
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Reading this:
https://www.jwz.org/blog/2021/01/very-much-do-not-have-my-emacs-setup-just-=
how-i-like-it/
I was curious how XEmacs did this command, so I installed XEmacs. If
there's two (or one) window, the command works the same in Emacs and
XEmacs, but it's interesting what XEmacs does when there's more than two
windows: It cycles the windows.
Say you start with this:
-----
buf 1
-----
buf 2
-----
buf 3
-----
and you're in buf 1. `M-x display-buffer RET RET' then gives you:
-----
buf 1
-----
buf 4
-----
buf 3
-----
Repeat, and:
-----
buf 1
-----
buf 4
-----
buf 2
-----
Repeat, and:
-----
buf 1
-----
buf 3
-----
buf 2
-----
Repeat, and:
-----
buf 1
-----
buf 3
-----
buf 4
-----
Repeat, and:
-----
buf 1
-----
buf 2
-----
buf 4
-----
That is, it cycles the windows. If there are more windows, it'll go
through all the other windows in order, choosing the
least-recently-switched-to window.
This does indeed seem quite nice, and apparently none of the built-in
actions has this effect?
Action functions and the action they try to perform are:
=E2=80=98display-buffer-same-window=E2=80=99 -- Use the selected window.
=E2=80=98display-buffer-reuse-window=E2=80=99 -- Use a window already show=
ing
the buffer.
=E2=80=98display-buffer-in-previous-window=E2=80=99 -- Use a window that d=
id
show the buffer before.
=E2=80=98display-buffer-use-some-window=E2=80=99 -- Use some existing wind=
ow.
=E2=80=98display-buffer-pop-up-window=E2=80=99 -- Pop up a new window.
=E2=80=98display-buffer-below-selected=E2=80=99 -- Use or pop up a window =
below
the selected one.
=E2=80=98display-buffer-at-bottom=E2=80=99 -- Use or pop up a window at the
bottom of the selected frame.
=E2=80=98display-buffer-pop-up-frame=E2=80=99 -- Show the buffer on a new =
frame.
=E2=80=98display-buffer-in-child-frame=E2=80=99 -- Show the buffer in a
child frame.
=E2=80=98display-buffer-no-window=E2=80=99 -- Do not display the buffer and
have =E2=80=98display-buffer=E2=80=99 return nil immediately.
So I wonder whether it would make sense to add this.=20
In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.23, c=
airo version 1.16.0)
of 2020-12-31 built on xo
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