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Full text available.Received: (at 45756) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2021 22:37:37 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 06 17:37:37 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46599 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1l8WCv-0001Pn-Ih for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 17:37:37 -0500 Received: from freefriends.org ([96.88.95.60]:49240) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <karl@HIDDEN>) id 1l8WCt-0001PZ-W6 for 45756 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 17:37:36 -0500 X-Envelope-From: karl@HIDDEN Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 116MbYTX018726 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:37:35 -0700 Received: (from apache@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 116MbXul018725; Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:37:33 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:37:33 -0700 Message-Id: <202102062237.116MbXul018725@HIDDEN> From: Karl Berry <karl@HIDDEN> To: nbowler@HIDDEN, automake@HIDDEN, 45756 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#45756: Prepending '+' to the recipe line when linking with GCC's -flto=jobserver In-Reply-To: <CADyTPEwuCvDCj7-Tjgctt=VvQnRK6TQkKwHv9acCvnA1YoGP3A@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45756 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Nick - thanks for the reply on this. It all sounds sensible. Finally this issue could also probably be solved by changing GNU make itself: providing another mechanism to keep jobserver fds open in rules. Clearly that would be great. On the Automake side, I just don't have the desire to work on this issue. I'm happy to apply a patch if you or anyone has a reasonable improvement, but I'm not going to come up with it on my own, unfortunately. --thanks, karl.
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Full text available.Received: (at 45756) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Feb 2021 23:12:38 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 04 18:12:38 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42478 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1l7nng-0007g2-Mn for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 18:12:38 -0500 Received: from mail-yb1-f178.google.com ([209.85.219.178]:37905) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <nbowler@HIDDEN>) id 1l7nnc-0007fm-HB for 45756 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 18:12:36 -0500 Received: by mail-yb1-f178.google.com with SMTP id i6so4909953ybq.5 for <45756 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 15:12:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=draconx-ca.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=h6n7ZyJvvvt+foHTstcBgp/PgpjMQrYEKDWeS4NmQ44=; b=epEfzc3GCD4kXLOWe3b3vH0d86Iwd2G9l9tfbSL5YfJ/Ynkdr6QuoSMBDhN9x/SStd rmo2vhTOCPyLfT3lkf9LXt8DPimQGSAjTxFd1TZ8rBeRwC9YwicA0FrjHgoTIwsC3gh0 Zzyp/1Jav4c8iaELxNdNgZD6J+Xz9pIddEDtDdT54y4xx5ol7+EG+u/mVnuyTIOpMqSG 5Zz7d5AqhZxvMFt+3k6HT0b5POzSrSolcJuFLwKPoDvEWDLpbFiQyG6Fu4L2jr+ZXoze fM8/TEnmUXwEKNPvmqxwK7LWLMKcZx6ospaIX6B01XWwDCGlAEwDGREd+U2p0ekWIwz7 T1og== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=h6n7ZyJvvvt+foHTstcBgp/PgpjMQrYEKDWeS4NmQ44=; b=B2T7kOyUcpWYFXN5mXMx/wnPiaCpv8oRIMx8yumv2KoZedFOJcBALFVnrfNx+PLycb /xGy847j+lPrhPfG7UOxkAmDDzGK2S7JvfK7JBKHSXxpmUTt8TPGRC6ap9con7Jtn8Tb iNAyIjcNwDtR1cuoN4J3T+93fhozVGmZDlRG5p9P2bH5Mhg44tjaOX8Id0++z7+UmQ1g uSgdyIWAWTU6EspifTFkoFK8rHHeiamRJRt28KDGA4ysIz3H6nxHPAn8IUtqG4q+FYhK Rb2KsL0uH2gwP9Li0roFenTTqNk/g+Mz/guK+fEhxmWXW2sm3qdtsXmJGO0PvfeRtGhZ OyGg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Y5Fqlw/EdggrPUbxQBAS0ETpqzZyGHcbGVsQIfKzShjS08PiH k7iy4+C4HZ5HNroGN+TxwqKNZMF5pABkERUSaz089A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw40vNT8aAQxqDix5Tfx4hk35jIS4yy3SZNmyLavkpzaYJqi14i6vUy90KtBQBh0AhSuuxua786T7hF+JCMKko= X-Received: by 2002:a25:3007:: with SMTP id w7mr2266189ybw.495.1612480346745; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 15:12:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:b912:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:12:26 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [24.53.240.163] In-Reply-To: <c71b8e0b-ebd1-e74c-e1c9-bcdb1763d31b@HIDDEN> References: <202101070206.10726GLY031505@HIDDEN> <c71b8e0b-ebd1-e74c-e1c9-bcdb1763d31b@HIDDEN> From: Nick Bowler <nbowler@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 18:12:26 -0500 Message-ID: <CADyTPEwuCvDCj7-Tjgctt=VvQnRK6TQkKwHv9acCvnA1YoGP3A@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#45756: Prepending '+' to the recipe line when linking with GCC's -flto=jobserver To: "R. Diez" <rdiezmail-temp2@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45756 Cc: 45756 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, automake@HIDDEN, Karl Berry <karl@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2021-01-09, R. Diez <rdiezmail-temp2@HIDDEN> wrote: > [Resending in hopes it will attach to the new bug. --karl] > >> [...] >> At any rate, it would be extremely helpful to have a minimal-as-possible >> runnable (automake-able) example showing the case where the + needs to >> be prepended. rdiez, can you create such a mini-project? > > [...] > > I normally use Autoconf, and I do not understand very much the separation > between Autoconf and Automake. I do not know who is responsible for the > generation of the makefile rules to link the executable. Either Autoconf or > Automake must decide that GCC is not just used for compiling each object > file, but also for linking, and that rule is not visible in the makefile.am > file. > > Of course, such a linking rule does not user $(MAKE), and there is no '+' > prefix, so the GNU Make jobserver file descriptors will not be passed to > child processes. This is documented in the GNU Make manual. > > You do not need any special demo project for this. Just take any existing > Automake project written in C or C++, and use these compilation flags in > configure.ac : > > AM_CFLAGS="-flto=jobserver" > AM_CXXFLAGS="-flto=jobserver" > > If you run the makefile with "make -j 2", GCC will receive environment > variable MAKEFLAGS with a setting like "--jobserver-fds=xxx", but GNU Make > will > close the file descriptors mentioned there before executing the rule and > running GCC. This issue is not visible in GCC yet due to this bug I > reported: > > https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=94330 > > I am not sure how I can demonstrate this in a project, there is not actually > much to demonstrate. > > This is not just an issue while linking. Like I said, any stage, including > compilation of a single object file, could use the GNU Make jobs server. So > there should be a global option in Autoconf or Automake to prepend a '+' to > all generated rules. This issue has come up from time to time. I think I wrote something on it recently. think everyone can agree that a solution to this problem is desirable. However simply prepending "+" to commands is not practical for Automake to do because "+" has way more effects than just keeping the jobserver fds open. In particular, it will completely break "make -n". A configure option to allow the user to enable this (rather than an automake option) would probably be a simple and acceptable way to get things at leas working, even if it's not an "ideal" solution. Another possibility is for a "+"-prefixed command to check MAKEFLAGS to see if options like -n that suppress command execution were used (Automake already has to do this sort of thing in some rules). Since I believe the jobserver feature is exclusive to GNU make, I imagine it would also be possible to make use of GNU make substitution features to only add the "+" when make options that suppress command execution are omitted. This could probably be done in a manner that is interoperable with other make implementations and would likely perform better than shell tests inside commands. Finally this issue could also probably be solved by changing GNU make itself: providing another mechanism to keep jobserver fds open in rules. Cheers, Nick
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Diez" <rdiezmail-temp2@HIDDEN> To: Karl Berry <karl@HIDDEN> Subject: bug#45756: Prepending '+' to the recipe line when linking with GCC's -flto=jobserver Received-SPF: pass client-ip=96.88.95.60; envelope-from=karl@HIDDEN; helo=freefriends.org X-Spam_score_int: -30 X-Spam_score: -3.1 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: automake@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) [Resending in hopes it will attach to the new bug. --karl] > [...] > At any rate, it would be extremely helpful to have a minimal-as-possible > runnable (automake-able) example showing the case where the + needs to > be prepended. rdiez, can you create such a mini-project? > [...] I normally use Autoconf, and I do not understand very much the separation between Autoconf and Automake. I do not know who is responsible for the generation of the makefile rules to link the executable. Either Autoconf or Automake must decide that GCC is not just used for compiling each object file, but also for linking, and that rule is not visible in the makefile.am file. Of course, such a linking rule does not user $(MAKE), and there is no '+' prefix, so the GNU Make jobserver file descriptors will not be passed to child processes. This is documented in the GNU Make manual. You do not need any special demo project for this. Just take any existing Automake project written in C or C++, and use these compilation flags in configure.ac : AM_CFLAGS="-flto=jobserver" AM_CXXFLAGS="-flto=jobserver" If you run the makefile with "make -j 2", GCC will receive environment variable MAKEFLAGS with a setting like "--jobserver-fds=xxx", but GNU Make will close the file descriptors mentioned there before executing the rule and running GCC. This issue is not visible in GCC yet due to this bug I reported: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=94330 I am not sure how I can demonstrate this in a project, there is not actually much to demonstrate. This is not just an issue while linking. Like I said, any stage, including compilation of a single object file, could use the GNU Make jobs server. So there should be a global option in Autoconf or Automake to prepend a '+' to all generated rules. In fact, you would have thought that this should be the default, because any tool, at any stage, could decide in the future to go multithread, and there is no reason to ignore an existing GNU Make job server to limit the overall system load. Regards, rdiez
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Diez" <rdiezmail-temp2@HIDDEN> Subject: Always prepend '+' to the recipe line Message-ID: <a3e8fe6d-9894-a84d-1ee3-13181db1ce59@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 13:15:03 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <a3e8fe6d-9894-a84d-1ee3-13181db1ce59.ref@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.17501 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.8) Content-Length: 822 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45756 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is not just an issue while linking. Any stage, including compilation of a single object file, could use the GNU Make jobs server. So there should be a global option in Autoconf or Automake to prepend a '+' to all generated rules. In fact, you would have thought that this should be the default, because any tool, at any stage, could decide in the future to go multithread, and there is no reason to ignore an existing GNU Make job server to limit the overall system load. Beware that you cannot test this issue well with GCC at the moment, because GCC option -flto=jobserver will not issue any warning if the file descriptors are not available. I reported this a while ago, and it got fixed, but the target GCC version is 11, which has not been released yet: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=94330
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Diez" <rdiezmail-temp2@HIDDEN> To: automake@HIDDEN Subject: Prepending '+' to the recipe line when linking with GCC's -flto=jobserver Received-SPF: pass client-ip=96.88.95.60; envelope-from=karl@HIDDEN; helo=freefriends.org X-Spam_score_int: -47 X-Spam_score: -4.8 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 01:26:13 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) [Resending to bug-automake for tracking. --karl] Hi all: I am developing firmware similar to this one: https://github.com/rdiez/JtagDue First, I am building a GCC 8.3.0 cross-compiler toolchain for ARM Cortex-M4F on Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS, and I am then using it to build some embedded software with a cross-compiling Autoconf project. GCC introduced some time ago option -flto=jobserver in order to use the GNU Make jobserver when parallelising LTO builds. I am actually building many such Autoconf projects from a top-level makefile, so using the top-level jobserver prevents overloading the system with too many parallel jobs. That is what the jobserver was designed for. When doing a recursive make, you need to place a '+' character at the beginning of the recipe line in order to let GNU Make pass the jobserver file descriptors to the child processes. Alternatively, if you reference variable $(MAKE) inside the recipe like, you get the same effect. Otherwise, GNU Make does not let child processes inherit those file descriptors (or so I heard, probably with "close fd on exec"). In my top-level makefile, I added those '+' prefixes manually, so all Autoconf-generated makefiles are building in parallel but using the top-level jobserver. The trouble is, invoking GCC in the linking phase with -flto=jobserver is actually a similar "recursive make" situation: GCC needs to inherit those jobserver file descriptors. However, Autoconf/Automake does not generate that '+' prefix for the linking recipe. Is there a way to overcome this limitation? This will probably become a general issue in the future, as each stage could theoretically benefit from multi-core CPUs. See for example: https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/ParallelGcc Thanks in advance, rdiez
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