GNU bug report logs - #46184
28.0.50; child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to internla-border-width

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From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 28.0.50; child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to
 internla-border-width
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 23:52:43 -0600

(make-frame `(
	      (parent-frame . ,(window-frame))
	      (child-frame-border-width . 0)
	      (internal-border-width . 200)))

I would expect the border width to only fall back if
child-frame-border-width is nil, since 0 is a useful setting.


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 of 2021-01-28 built on aaron-sub.local
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Message #8 received at 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen <at> gmail.com>, 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Alexander Miller <alexanderm <at> web.de>
Subject: Re: bug#46184: 28.0.50; child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to
 internla-border-width
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 16:26:07 +0100

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

> (make-frame `(
> 	      (parent-frame . ,(window-frame))
> 	      (child-frame-border-width . 0)
> 	      (internal-border-width . 200)))
>
> I would expect the border width to only fall back if
> child-frame-border-width is nil, since 0 is a useful setting.

It's not entirely trivial to do that (frame parameters are a pain in
this regard) but please have a look at the attached patch (tested on a
GTK build only).  Alexander, please have a look too.

Thanks, martin

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Message #11 received at 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen <at> gmail.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: Alexander Miller <alexanderm <at> web.de>, 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46184: 28.0.50;
 child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to internla-border-width
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 11:13:38 -0600

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:26 AM martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at> wrote:
>
>  > (make-frame `(
>  >            (parent-frame . ,(window-frame))
>  >            (child-frame-border-width . 0)
>  >            (internal-border-width . 200)))
>  >
>  > I would expect the border width to only fall back if
>  > child-frame-border-width is nil, since 0 is a useful setting.
>
> It's not entirely trivial to do that (frame parameters are a pain in
> this regard) but please have a look at the attached patch (tested on a
> GTK build only).  Alexander, please have a look too.

That worked for me, thanks. I had to also apply the attached to get it
to compile on macOS.

Aaron

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Message #14 received at 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Miller <alexanderm <at> web.de>, Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>,
 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46184: 28.0.50; child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to
 internla-border-width
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 18:38:42 +0100

> I had to also apply the attached to get it
> to compile on macOS.

Stefan - you apparently forgot to update nsmenu.m too.

martin

Message #17 received at 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>, Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Miller <alexanderm <at> web.de>, 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46184: 28.0.50;
 child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to internla-border-width
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2021 06:23:53 -0800

martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at> writes:

>  > I had to also apply the attached to get it
>  > to compile on macOS.
>
> Stefan - you apparently forgot to update nsmenu.m too.

Thanks for letting me know.  It seems like Eli already fixed it:

    commit 419a33eb1dd37fe529e756e04253ff1c9ad2eeb1
    Author: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
    Date:   Sat Jan 30 21:13:53 2021 +0200

        Fix NS build broken by a recent change

        * src/nsmenu.m (set_frame_menubar, Fns_reset_menu): Adapt to
        recent changes in set_frame_menubar.  (Bug#45759)

Message #20 received at 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alexander Miller <alexanderm <at> web.de>
To: rudalics <at> gmx.at
Cc: 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, aaronjensen <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#46184: 28.0.50; child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to
 internla-border-width
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 22:23:25 +0100

> > (make-frame `(
> > (parent-frame . ,(window-frame))
> > (child-frame-border-width . 0)
> > (internal-border-width . 200)))
> >
> > I would expect the border width to only fall back if
> > child-frame-border-width is nil, since 0 is a useful setting.
>
> It's not entirely trivial to do that (frame parameters are a pain in
> this regard) but please have a look at the attached patch (tested on a
> GTK build only). Alexander, please have a look too.
>
> Thanks, martin

I have tried the patch and the case for using 0 does work without
fallback now.

I also tried setting an explicit `nil` value and got an error, but
judging by how `internal-border-width` shows the same behaviour I assume
that it's working as expected.

Message #23 received at 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Alexander Miller <alexanderm <at> web.de>
Cc: 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, aaronjensen <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#46184: 28.0.50; child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to
 internla-border-width
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 09:40:10 +0100

> I have tried the patch and the case for using 0 does work without
> fallback now.
>
> I also tried setting an explicit `nil` value and got an error, but
> judging by how `internal-border-width` shows the same behaviour I assume
> that it's working as expected.

Indeed.  That's why I dislike frame parameters.  WOW users cannot set
'internal-border-width' back to its initial value once it changed.  For
scroll bars we use a two-tiers approach where users can tweak width and
type separately.  Doing something similar for the internal border seems
a bit excessive to me.

Though, I am currently investigating doing something similar for tooltip
frames.  IIRC it was you who also noticed that the border we currently
draw around them is only on top and the left.  I meanwhile found out
that this is due to us trying to use the 'border-width' of the frame (a
completely obscure X concept) for that purpose.  If I can't fix that
(and it would be an X-only fix anyway) I'll try to replace it with our
own internal border, but I'm not sure whether I succeed.

Currently, the internal border face, once customized, shows through in
our tooltips only after some delay which is quite irritating.  Also, I
still don't know whether we want the internal border of tooltip frames
as a means (1) to "set off" text from the rest of the screen by splicing
in some space in the background face, or (2) to "separate" text from the
rest of the screen by splicing in space in a face that differs from the
background.  Currently, we can't have both.  We'd have to brush up the
internal borders in way similar to window dividers.

Thanks for checking, martin

Message #26 received at 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Miller <alexanderm <at> web.de>, 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46184: 28.0.50; child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to
 internla-border-width
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 18:28:05 +0100

> That worked for me, thanks.

I pushed a slightly different fix to master now.  Please have a look.

Thanks, martin

Message #29 received at 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Alexander Miller <alexanderm <at> web.de>
Cc: 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, aaronjensen <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#46184: 28.0.50; child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to
 internla-border-width
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 18:28:16 +0100

>  > I also tried setting an explicit `nil` value and got an error, but
>  > judging by how `internal-border-width` shows the same behaviour I assume
>  > that it's working as expected.
>
> Indeed.  That's why I dislike frame parameters.  WOW users cannot set
> 'internal-border-width' back to its initial value once it changed.  For
> scroll bars we use a two-tiers approach where users can tweak width and
> type separately.  Doing something similar for the internal border seems
> a bit excessive to me.

I think I fixed that now in the sense that an explicit nil value does
not get an error but triggers the fallback mechanism.  Please check out
the latest master.

Thanks, martin

Message #32 received at 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen <at> gmail.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: Alexander Miller <alexanderm <at> web.de>, 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46184: 28.0.50;
 child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to internla-border-width
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 12:17:10 -0600

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 11:28 AM martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at> wrote:
>
>  > That worked for me, thanks.
>
> I pushed a slightly different fix to master now.  Please have a look.

Great, thank you. Also, for posterity, it's been fixed downstream in
posframe as well (in that it sets the correct parameters now for Emacs
28)

Aaron

Message #35 received at 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Aaron Jensen <aaronjensen <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Miller <alexanderm <at> web.de>, control <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 46184 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46184: 28.0.50; child-frame-border-width of 0 falls back to
 internla-border-width
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 10:26:14 +0200

tags 46184 fixed
close 46184 28.1
quit

> Great, thank you. Also, for posterity, it's been fixed downstream in
> posframe as well (in that it sets the correct parameters now for Emacs
> 28)

OK.  Marking this as fixed then.

Thanks, martin

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