Received: (at 46482) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2021 15:26:14 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 19 10:26:14 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50150 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lD7fZ-0004aG-JE for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 10:26:14 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53456) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1lD7fX-0004a4-Qv for 46482 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 10:26:12 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50589) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1lD7fS-0002hk-4V; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 10:26:06 -0500 Received: from [2001:660:6102:320:e120:2c8f:8909:cdfe] (port=49890 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1lD7fR-0001rH-HZ; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 10:26:05 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN> To: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46482: [core-updates] u-boot source cannot be downloaded References: <20210213033752.499715c0@HIDDEN> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 1 =?utf-8?Q?Vent=C3=B4se?= an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 16:26:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20210213033752.499715c0@HIDDEN> (Danny Milosavljevic's message of "Sat, 13 Feb 2021 03:37:52 +0100") Message-ID: <87r1lckrjo.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46482 Cc: 46482 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Hi, Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@HIDDEN> skribis: > failed to download "/gnu/store/1idpm6f9pcm9dajm90qgk6x1r6qywfv8-u-boot-20= 21.01.tar.bz2" from "ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/u-boot/u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2" Can we add mirror URLs to the =E2=80=98origin=E2=80=99, similar to what I d= id in 9d01749feaa1586b1caf449712116e7518bb2303? Ludo=E2=80=99.
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Full text available.Received: (at 46482) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2021 03:58:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 13 22:58:06 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35339 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lB8Xt-0006iC-SA for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 22:58:06 -0500 Received: from imta-38.everyone.net ([216.200.145.38]:47260) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bokr@HIDDEN>) id 1lB8Xs-0006i2-3t for 46482 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 22:58:05 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 11E3kfWk004098; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 19:58:01 -0800 X-Eon-Originating-Account: IEQifLiyym8Cd8Z9Hp2WGoy6CzWyUwx8ZL12Uq7-rcc X-Eon-Dm: m0117124.ppops.net Received: by m0117124.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 5a81cebb) id m0117124.601839f7.148275; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 19:58:00 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMHrIJgKJ/IgUFY1gIAAAAD,fd979623b97ad3bbea9fb1e5c19f12a7 X-Eip: mK04mwLdKVMZZddvTYxcTcerEIpa2a4BEIBKJN82SKI Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2021 04:57:50 +0100 From: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> To: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46482: [core-updates] u-boot source cannot be downloaded Message-ID: <20210214035750.GA4673@LionPure> References: <20210213033752.499715c0@HIDDEN> <20210213183409.GA4220@LionPure> <YCgkjWU++McEBcsK@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <YCgkjWU++McEBcsK@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.369, 18.0.737 definitions=2021-02-13_02:2021-02-12, 2021-02-13 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 lowpriorityscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 impostorscore=0 phishscore=0 clxscore=1034 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2102140031 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46482 Cc: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@HIDDEN>, 46482 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) Hi Leo et al, On +2021-02-13 14:12:13 -0500, Leo Famulari wrote: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 07:34:09PM +0100, Bengt Richter wrote: > > I would prefer something that fits in with mes-philosopy. > > ftp seems old and simple, so I would vote for push-back > > to fix the ftp client involved. > > FTP is more complicated than HTTP in that it requires the use of > multiple connections. Additionally, it's often blocked on corporate > networks, whereas HTTP/S is never going to be blocked (HTTPS anyways). > > Based on experience in Guix, we have never had bug reports from users > who could not access sources over HTTP/S, but there have been several > reports of problems using FTP. The HTTP/S ports 80 and 443 are basically > the only ports you can depend on being open on a network that is > connected to the internet. > > The creator of curl compares them here: > > https://daniel.haxx.se/docs/ftp-vs-http.html Thanks, that was interesting. He says (re download speed) "Ultimately the net outcome of course differs depending on specific details, but I would say that for single-shot static files, you won't be able to measure a difference." So in that case, what's minimal, and how vulnerable is it? Is there a minimal quic without google upstream? or X.25 -- dating myself ;-P and what about TFTP/PXE ?? What would the mes-people suggest for minimalist functionality, and minimal trust scope, and maximal monopoly-independence, I wonder? [meta-question] How does one gracefully go off-topic onto a tangential discussion? I thought my original comment re expired gpg key might have helped in some way, but my comment wanting to get the ftp fixed intead of (or in addition to) being bypassed provoked the explanation of how I was deluded (ok, no worries :), but I might want to say something about separate connections isolating meta-data and data as being a "feature" that I expect to see more of, but that would be another step along the tangent ... or osculating circle? NNTR :-D -- Regards, Bengt Richter
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FTP is more complicated than HTTP in that it requires the use of multiple connections. Additionally, it's often blocked on corporate networks, whereas HTTP/S is never going to be blocked (HTTPS anyways). Based on experience in Guix, we have never had bug reports from users who could not access sources over HTTP/S, but there have been several reports of problems using FTP. The HTTP/S ports 80 and 443 are basically the only ports you can depend on being open on a network that is connected to the internet. The creator of curl compares them here: https://daniel.haxx.se/docs/ftp-vs-http.html
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Full text available.Received: (at 46482) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2021 18:34:24 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 13 13:34:24 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35048 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lAzkN-0001mw-SZ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 13:34:24 -0500 Received: from imta-38.everyone.net ([216.200.145.38]:44310) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <bokr@HIDDEN>) id 1lAzkL-0001mm-K1 for 46482 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 13:34:22 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 11DIWVE5004081; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 10:34:20 -0800 X-Eon-Originating-Account: eZ0wO29bT-nB_utwU6P9yjn_3OlDJW6Hx4SRluMaSKg X-Eon-Dm: m0116953.ppops.net Received: by m0116953.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 5a81cebb) id m0116953.6000aa5f.401a60; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 10:34:18 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMHrIJgKBuq8X4i6gIAAAAC,5b55ca05d1acda71d86da76bc1550492 X-Eip: KihCXGsteMPhy5zrH8T5JxdnZmYf1nIgNqwdIuR82xc Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 19:34:09 +0100 From: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> To: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46482: [core-updates] u-boot source cannot be downloaded Message-ID: <20210213183409.GA4220@LionPure> References: <20210213033752.499715c0@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210213033752.499715c0@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.369, 18.0.737 definitions=2021-02-13_02:2021-02-12, 2021-02-13 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 lowpriorityscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 impostorscore=0 phishscore=0 clxscore=1034 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2102130171 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46482 Cc: 46482 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Bengt Richter <bokr@HIDDEN> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) Hi, On +2021-02-13 03:37:52 +0100, Danny Milosavljevic wrote: > failed to download "/gnu/store/1idpm6f9pcm9dajm90qgk6x1r6qywfv8-u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2" from "ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/u-boot/u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2" > builder for `/gnu/store/5s92y4l66f8qh4p4gx79jvsjaxhl208k-u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2.drv' failed to produce output path `/gnu/store/1idpm6f9pcm9dajm90qgk6x1r6qywfv8-u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2' > build of /gnu/store/5s92y4l66f8qh4p4gx79jvsjaxhl208k-u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2.drv failed > View build log at '/var/log/guix/drvs/5s/92y4l66f8qh4p4gx79jvsjaxhl208k-u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2.drv.bz2'. > cannot build derivation `/gnu/store/m09apasn4glhf2lvsq8bn2ci5ncjq0fz-u-boot-tools-2021.01.drv': 1 dependencies couldn't be built > building /gnu/store/5s4pczxlp3v8yfavmgjf93093msfaxym-ucommon-7.0.0.tar.gz.drv... > > Changing the URL to "https" instead of "ftp" would work. > Changing it to "http" instead of "ftp" would also work. > Which should we use? > > Reason is bug #46481. > > But do we maybe want to change over to http or https anyway? So long as you can check the hash of the downloaded file, IMO other considerations ought to dominate the choice. I would prefer something that fits in with mes-philosopy. ftp seems old and simple, so I would vote for push-back to fix the ftp client involved. FWIW: I clicked on the "ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/u-boot/u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2" URL in your "failed to download" message above, and got an open/save-as popup choice widget, and clicked save-as and successfully downloaded it, and can inspect it with tar -tjvf u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2|less I am running pureos (debian variant): --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- 4.19.0-14-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.171-2 (2021-01-30) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- and was in a tilix terminal when I clicked the URL, which started Mozilla Firefox 78.7.0esr which gave me the open/save-as popup choice. IDK what firefox does with ftp://... but it worked. I guess I could strace it, but what does firefox or icecat do on your box if directed to ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/u-boot/u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2 ? HTH -- Regards, Bengt Richter
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I recommend HTTPS over HTTP. Although we don't verify the HTTPS certificate with the X.509 PKI for this case [0], it still protects against passive eavesdropping. 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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2021 02:38:03 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 12 21:38:03 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33293 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lAkot-0000u9-72 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 21:38:03 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:36482) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <dannym@HIDDEN>) id 1lAkos-0000tz-95 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 21:38:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45990) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <dannym@HIDDEN>) id 1lAkoo-0002Xt-2m for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 21:37:59 -0500 Received: from dd26836.kasserver.com ([85.13.145.193]:60658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <dannym@HIDDEN>) id 1lAkom-0001yX-6V for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 21:37:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (80-110-127-104.cgn.dynamic.surfer.at [80.110.127.104]) by dd26836.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 721D73363C3D for <bug-guix@HIDDEN>; Sat, 13 Feb 2021 03:37:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 03:37:52 +0100 From: Danny Milosavljevic <dannym@HIDDEN> To: <bug-guix@HIDDEN> Subject: [core-updates] u-boot source cannot be downloaded Message-ID: <20210213033752.499715c0@HIDDEN> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/HVdL4MN7V9I6w=duXVpyr_p"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Received-SPF: none client-ip=85.13.145.193; envelope-from=dannym@HIDDEN; helo=dd26836.kasserver.com X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --Sig_/HVdL4MN7V9I6w=duXVpyr_p Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable failed to download "/gnu/store/1idpm6f9pcm9dajm90qgk6x1r6qywfv8-u-boot-2021= .01.tar.bz2" from "ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/u-boot/u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2" builder for `/gnu/store/5s92y4l66f8qh4p4gx79jvsjaxhl208k-u-boot-2021.01.tar= .bz2.drv' failed to produce output path `/gnu/store/1idpm6f9pcm9dajm90qgk6x= 1r6qywfv8-u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2' build of /gnu/store/5s92y4l66f8qh4p4gx79jvsjaxhl208k-u-boot-2021.01.tar.bz2= .drv failed View build log at '/var/log/guix/drvs/5s/92y4l66f8qh4p4gx79jvsjaxhl208k-u-b= oot-2021.01.tar.bz2.drv.bz2'. cannot build derivation `/gnu/store/m09apasn4glhf2lvsq8bn2ci5ncjq0fz-u-boot= -tools-2021.01.drv': 1 dependencies couldn't be built building /gnu/store/5s4pczxlp3v8yfavmgjf93093msfaxym-ucommon-7.0.0.tar.gz.d= rv... Changing the URL to "https" instead of "ftp" would work. Changing it to "http" instead of "ftp" would also work. Which should we use? Reason is bug #46481. But do we maybe want to change over to http or https anyway? --Sig_/HVdL4MN7V9I6w=duXVpyr_p Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEds7GsXJ0tGXALbPZ5xo1VCwwuqUFAmAnO4AACgkQ5xo1VCww uqX3VAf/YbMPL0o4fkApadPDPszNoOKYkXkGNL6IW9Ti1T49bYD4GvAZbTkS1KiE wytukyZJ0Ptt+3RedsxfNy6ibGiXLcrWwMgAwIXc+EsYbXWh6W9rof0uCpXV6tNN epBvvl2bMT/fDh4+h4EjMnSYWA2Ld4U8Q15eE/e2b1t/lFNpAm1Q1tldgZEviq14 cWsyO5eUnb7B/DDFZ2bafr5QGpzEnjydlIi5AaGbRqpn04hV1zdpeqZT7tjwwWwx mXYooWywqa/G/5dv7KPasKnED+8EawcmdUv71l4qahBdZ1BcJUErYG1nudme83T9 xqFN5oFt5XDT37xygYGX1Y32RTBS5g== =oQuq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/HVdL4MN7V9I6w=duXVpyr_p--
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