Received: (at 46636) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2021 09:17:02 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 22 04:17:01 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55635 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lE7Kv-0003F7-Kb for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 04:17:01 -0500 Received: from mail-oi1-f172.google.com ([209.85.167.172]:45792) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <pipcet@HIDDEN>) id 1lE7Kq-0003El-UH for 46636 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 04:17:00 -0500 Received: by mail-oi1-f172.google.com with SMTP id q186so13238410oig.12 for <46636 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:16:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=HnxC3VT4Kj2OIaVAEVE23tTNx0wkozxykwZYaDkSgLk=; b=qx69Pfz21kWQWoN/TS123WTcAX2xyac0RHbv6DwNF3n3SX4iSbbIEKhRzCMDiWBqmm NEJ2D/9siq5GPyomSuPDO9eYJSkDgkfmXlwzuHjxXahEWs3ih7tWtCWpXSsgnaQEe2Xk euznMfgJAz2pAC3OjURZagxepWlAiwTmQ2bU8dlfXfvULIvun9Ba6Lg2yBMNIanCXs2M bqmMyZ2JsRH4fNyf8lT9Ln1cWbin455OB5GlMtv9gMWm8Gq4Hql0oePNnQvAgc2Ltlns T6eV/ATdRXiS/1SHotxeapcH55XzkrUA8fHzoWxjE1iLERcfdci6lD4NY08u5IdaJPn3 idMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=HnxC3VT4Kj2OIaVAEVE23tTNx0wkozxykwZYaDkSgLk=; b=jQVDygRenTKBGuFgcfJR4ofN0mFUcHeLRKOIcH3KWI6e5D9v80XngBkoCxfgawV8Wi 4u3A52i0lP3KcxAoQ9g1HEhTZKfpMCKoI5I6G4s9NM45Q3EOPJ458ixSE25Kqa6t7IkW KQFLyxlfi7ARe/OAsDCiipqwORn53xD62KZVtMuIJPDk8ilkTVwihV2fzeIP9tvwxAPs sFcU4UMHdPSAvVUiVhowsKDcKu/Vi3AUwfYeEw9OpnqoD8eycZQ5x/mhWev9m9r5QpDF xzCejqVao7B9imExUtSks2C2ucPWRm0/rVj9oflBYfnTadbWTPjGz37MRkHQKaPVf63o Akeg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5323OrnPdb+8UqHuFS2Nxsqk6dVr0xUjsuX4cd3I3fgRGt4eonwG tN6ublXVHOZrr3eGXY6SB3eUTmHkLHXTld00aqY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz5PYLKks/FH6sW2/abZqDB7WqaxeABqYvBhqj/zOBk4Buj08lUxcMVn6x9gw/XHV0KzBinvJGjgDxgMN6488w= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:8e1:: with SMTP id d1mr15158214oic.122.1613985411376; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:16:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <CAOqdjBcaEAYN7W8GY6vbx7nVjAJu7vWQ6oZdBApLFDctr3F8DA@HIDDEN> <SA2PR10MB44748B2F2C3DDD5467421389F3849@HIDDEN> <E1lE4Zf-0006Hs-Eu@HIDDEN> <877dn0cxvp.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <877dn0cxvp.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Pip Cet <pipcet@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 09:16:15 +0000 Message-ID: <CAOqdjBdSXbNcJjHvSNn=j2cpQRNHxBR4QknYREouBbiEk_rBmQ@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46636: [External] : bug#46636: 28.0.50; M-: (funcall #'or) doesn't throw an error To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46636 Cc: 46636 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@HIDDEN>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 8:25 AM Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> wrote: > > I think I agree that funcalling `or' should give an error. > It does. Just to clarify: your point is that there are non-standard ways of executing Emacs Lisp which do not suffer from this bug, right? Or is it that the bug isn't in Ffuncall (it isn't)? > The problem is in macroexp--expand-all, called by > eval-expression, which transforms this into a no-op. There and in the byte compiler, which does the same thing to (apply ...) forms, too.
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Full text available.Received: (at 46636) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2021 14:02:02 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 19 09:02:02 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48975 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lD6M6-00028g-AT for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:02:02 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:49331) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <whitebox@HIDDEN>) id 1lD6M3-00028E-Qu for 46636 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:02:01 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DhtYL39FCz1rynf; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 15:01:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DhtYL0pFZz1t6pm; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 15:01:58 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3jC0QE-qWBGY; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 15:01:57 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: kyNykBBwawbPnbXFxHQtiAvHngBJDo18eT3UkfFzU8UIQV//WWXQCROgcmHHc3Sc Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-177-94.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.177.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 15:01:57 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D40D52C3750; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 15:01:56 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@HIDDEN> To: Pip Cet <pipcet@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46636: 28.0.50; M-: (funcall #'or) doesn't throw an error References: <CAOqdjBcaEAYN7W8GY6vbx7nVjAJu7vWQ6oZdBApLFDctr3F8DA@HIDDEN> X-Yow: Yow! Are you the self-frying president? Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 15:01:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <CAOqdjBcaEAYN7W8GY6vbx7nVjAJu7vWQ6oZdBApLFDctr3F8DA@HIDDEN> (Pip Cet's message of "Fri, 19 Feb 2021 13:26:25 +0000") Message-ID: <87h7m82m23.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46636 Cc: 46636 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) On Feb 19 2021, Pip Cet wrote: > Recipe starting from emacs -Q: > > M-: (funcall #'or) RET If you want authentic results, use ielm, not eval-expression. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@HIDDEN GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."
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Full text available.Received: (at 46636) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2021 13:36:01 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 19 08:36:01 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48951 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lD5wu-0001TI-Pv for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 08:36:01 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59814) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1lD5wq-0001Sx-W0 for 46636 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 08:35:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=UZw/rGtgNWcFuqI9u748OenL189FQaQ2UkHtZY6emv0=; b=kPdls4PTzaYI3GV4yuaSMgLgO1 N9I9p3gh1Ej4VvKZPd0iZF/Io7mmG2q12vbenzuU7u35fs/4suBklHQmQ2oIsVpdp8UdD5yMQ/pld SuetdxEWioLyIJdjBXvnsxNLSOvFYoYCjnO6lCtxPUuqYDgTK0Roiwulm7BMdrBzuvVc=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1lD5wh-0002S9-0T; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:35:50 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Pip Cet <pipcet@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46636: 28.0.50; M-: (funcall #'or) doesn't throw an error References: <CAOqdjBcaEAYN7W8GY6vbx7nVjAJu7vWQ6oZdBApLFDctr3F8DA@HIDDEN> X-Now-Playing: Kate Bush's _Never For Ever_: "The Wedding List" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:35:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <CAOqdjBcaEAYN7W8GY6vbx7nVjAJu7vWQ6oZdBApLFDctr3F8DA@HIDDEN> (Pip Cet's message of "Fri, 19 Feb 2021 13:26:25 +0000") Message-ID: <87pn0wrxht.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Pip Cet <pipcet@HIDDEN> writes: > Recipe starting from emacs -Q: > > M-: (funcall #'or) RET > > Expected result: > > An error, as `or' is not a function. M-: (funcall 'or) -> funcall: Invalid function: #<subr or> Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46636 Cc: 46636 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Pip Cet <pipcet@HIDDEN> writes: > Recipe starting from emacs -Q: > > M-: (funcall #'or) RET > > Expected result: > > An error, as `or' is not a function. M-: (funcall 'or) -> funcall: Invalid function: #<subr or> So, indeed, that does seem rather inconsistent. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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