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28.0.50; undefined entry on M-S-x in org-mode

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From: Gabriel do Nascimento Ribeiro <gabriel376 <at> hotmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 28.0.50; undefined entry on M-S-x in org-mode
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 15:25:55 -0300

Steps:
- emacs -Q
- change to some buffer in org-mode
- press M-S-X
- there is an `undefined` entry in the Completions list

Message #8 received at 46665 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Gabriel do Nascimento Ribeiro <gabriel376 <at> hotmail.com>
Cc: 46665 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46665: 28.0.50; undefined entry on M-S-x in org-mode
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 20:48:05 +0200

> From: Gabriel do Nascimento Ribeiro <gabriel376 <at> hotmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 15:25:55 -0300
> 
> Steps:
> - emacs -Q
> - change to some buffer in org-mode
> - press M-S-X
> - there is an `undefined` entry in the Completions list

Why is that a bug?

Did you try "M-x undefined RET" or "C-h f undefined RET"?

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From: Gabriel do Nascimento Ribeiro <gabriel376 <at> hotmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46665: 28.0.50; undefined entry on M-S-x in org-mode
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 17:07:22 -0300

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Gabriel do Nascimento Ribeiro <gabriel376 <at> hotmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 15:25:55 -0300
>> 
>> Steps:
>> - emacs -Q
>> - change to some buffer in org-mode
>> - press M-S-X
>> - there is an `undefined` entry in the Completions list
>
> Why is that a bug?
>
> Did you try "M-x undefined RET" or "C-h f undefined RET"?

I tried "M-x undefined RET" before opening the bug report and I got:
    "M-x u n d e f i n e d RET is undefined"
so I thought it was a bug.

Now reading the docstring with "C-h f" I am not sure if this command is
supposed to be listed on "M-S-x" or not.
    "Beep to tell the user this binding is undefined."

If it's okay to have this "undefined" command on "M-S-x", we can close
this bug report. Sorry for any noise.

Message #14 received at 46665 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Gabriel do Nascimento Ribeiro <gabriel376 <at> hotmail.com>
Cc: 46665 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46665: 28.0.50; undefined entry on M-S-x in org-mode
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 14:36:56 +0100

Gabriel do Nascimento Ribeiro <gabriel376 <at> hotmail.com> writes:

> Steps:
> - emacs -Q
> - change to some buffer in org-mode
> - press M-S-X
> - there is an `undefined` entry in the Completions list

We're discussing how commands like this are to be handled over on
emacs-devel, but no conclusion yet.  The commands are `undefined',
`ignore', `digit-argument' and `negative-argument', which are common in
keymaps, but aren't something that you'd want to `M-x'...  I think.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #17 received at 46665 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Gabriel do Nascimento Ribeiro <gabriel376 <at> hotmail.com>
Cc: 46665 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#46665: 28.0.50; undefined entry on M-S-x in org-mode
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 15:47:57 +0200

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> We're discussing how commands like this are to be handled over on
> emacs-devel, but no conclusion yet.  The commands are `undefined',
> `ignore', `digit-argument' and `negative-argument', which are common in
> keymaps, but aren't something that you'd want to `M-x'...  I think.

I've now fixed this in Emacs 29.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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