Received: (at 46979) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2021 17:17:03 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 09 12:17:03 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47852 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lJfyh-0004JH-9G for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 12:17:03 -0500 Received: from quail.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.151]:64954) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jidanni@HIDDEN>) id 1lJfye-0004Im-D6 for 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 12:17:02 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68ECC362D90; Tue, 9 Mar 2021 17:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-10-164.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.10.164]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F3C51362D87; Tue, 9 Mar 2021 17:16:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 100.96.10.164 (trex/6.0.2); Tue, 09 Mar 2021 17:16:58 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Troubled-Abaft: 1fe92c302235295c_1615310218227_4244631748 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1615310218227:573345083 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1615310218226 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0953817D2; Tue, 9 Mar 2021 09:16:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=qUio44DoU/dozcZzeEsQTLUxO18=; b=VGk2tbtid2WaH upFhO/9K5mYrqTJ19mPue+wQiCM4iqGadF4NE7+fl8xpmzhkXQZjoHPkA3pgyg5N mX112tT3TNwXGTBgOuFe06E2gL9oL9Y7tAXekktSZhm8kAOP1Ej16XBCrFdZoPog YSS1nuGnQFLPpfmSXPF6h1PpAQ4KwY= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-14-126.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.14.126]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@HIDDEN) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD80F817D1; Tue, 9 Mar 2021 09:16:56 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a33 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46979: Allow setting Man-default-entry via Local Variables References: <87tupnrhvv.8.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tupntrwb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn0b12f0.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1r1kpvqr0.fsf@HIDDEN> <87blbtoj16.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83czw9somb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgzdn1kc.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <835z21smu3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn09myoo.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wnuhr4eu.fsf@HIDDEN> <87wnuhlgmf.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83o8ftqzpf.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn08e76z.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tupkp8nk.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 01:16:52 +0800 Message-ID: <87v9a0ckmz.5.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46979 Cc: 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mardani29@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) EZ> A good tool shines when it does DWIM without any tinkering. The EZ> "alist solution" has much higher chances of doing a large part of the EZ> job, so insisting on not doing anything and leaving everything to the EZ> user's tinkering makes little sense to me. Good. Great. Full speed ahead with the alist version! (But still allow setting via Local Variables for Mom's one time pet cat project.)
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#46979; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 46979) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2021 16:57:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 09 11:57:39 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47822 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lJffv-0003oJ-Eq for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:57:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38736) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJfft-0003o6-AX for 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:57:38 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJffn-0008D4-Mx; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:57:31 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2307 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJfff-0000OO-RZ; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:57:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 18:57:19 +0200 Message-Id: <83tupkp8nk.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87pn08e76z.5.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from =?utf-8?B?56mN?= =?utf-8?B?5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson on Tue, 09 Mar 2021 22:24:20 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#46979: Allow setting Man-default-entry via Local Variables References: <87tupnrhvv.8.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tupntrwb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn0b12f0.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1r1kpvqr0.fsf@HIDDEN> <87blbtoj16.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83czw9somb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgzdn1kc.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <835z21smu3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn09myoo.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wnuhr4eu.fsf@HIDDEN> <87wnuhlgmf.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83o8ftqzpf.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn08e76z.5.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46979 Cc: 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mardani29@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> > Cc: mardani29@HIDDEN, 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 22:24:20 +0800 > > >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > EZ> OK, but why do you insist on doing this via file-local variables? > > Because certainly the people who make the alists will probably think > that crontab(1) is the man page people editing crontabs want to see, > but individual programmer Williams wants to see crontab(5) usually. > But wait! Not always. For his other cron page he more often wants to see > cron(8), and even crontab(1posix). So you never know. But Mr Williams does know! And the alist can be modified exactly like the local-vars section in a file. With your suggestion, by default Emacs will be none the wiser, because wizard jidanni didn't visit every Mr Williams out there and offered them his services of adding the local-vars section to every obscure file they might have on their disk. Including flippant(1), fartsburg(7) and whatnot. A good tool shines when it does DWIM without any tinkering. The "alist solution" has much higher chances of doing a large part of the job, so insisting on not doing anything and leaving everything to the user's tinkering makes little sense to me.
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Full text available.Received: (at 46979) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2021 16:12:10 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 09 11:12:10 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47774 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lJexu-0000dB-Ke for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:12:10 -0500 Received: from black.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.19]:2725) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <jidanni@HIDDEN>) id 1lJexr-0000d1-31 for 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:12:09 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF95922C9C; Tue, 9 Mar 2021 16:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-10-164.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.10.164]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1751A922D1B; Tue, 9 Mar 2021 16:11:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 100.96.10.164 (trex/6.0.2); Tue, 09 Mar 2021 16:12:05 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@HIDDEN X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Rock-Broad: 6f3f787b4940ae21_1615306315340_1941582054 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1615306315340:976952637 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1615306315340 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BEF817CF; Tue, 9 Mar 2021 08:11:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=rLs0NV/h5yaj60EPkbbbik29fz4=; b=bBJAiU97Ji6V0 zND5p4SqqZjJUO/fELnqj3uPQbm3JyqnwIE5vsBHpFooBeX/zVbs15vtpWwlrBFM DkliSLpAX3XMjvB8PBc0auwJ1gzRm6snABj8ORcH3ytrBgYb3vz1syjMLCYqaHi8 +BosnRncS9SDbpVjqSwFNKXWjrT94k= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-14-126.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [114.41.14.126]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@HIDDEN) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 246F7817D1; Tue, 9 Mar 2021 08:11:53 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a33 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46979: Allow setting Man-default-entry via Local Variables References: <87tupnrhvv.8.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tupntrwb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn0b12f0.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1r1kpvqr0.fsf@HIDDEN> <87blbtoj16.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83czw9somb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgzdn1kc.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <835z21smu3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn09myoo.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wnuhr4eu.fsf@HIDDEN> <87wnuhlgmf.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83o8ftqzpf.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 22:24:20 +0800 Message-ID: <87pn08e76z.5.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46979 Cc: 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mardani29@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: EZ> OK, but why do you insist on doing this via file-local variables? Because certainly the people who make the alists will probably think that crontab(1) is the man page people editing crontabs want to see, but individual programmer Williams wants to see crontab(5) usually. But wait! Not always. For his other cron page he more often wants to see cron(8), and even crontab(1posix). So you never know. And then again for his Nurdenburg project he often wants to see the flippant(1) man page, except for his flursburg file, where he often needs to check the fartsburg(7) man page. I.e., Local Variables are the only way to cater to all his needs. Sure, he could make lists of what filenames should match what man pages. But he also wants the flexibility of Local Variables.
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Mon, 8 Mar 2021 19:01:36 +0000 Received: by smtp414.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 3069a573dd10c62eaaada951a7c6e907; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 19:01:32 +0000 (UTC) From: =?utf-8?Q?Daniel_Mart=C3=ADn?= <mardani29@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46979: Allow setting Man-default-entry via Local Variables References: <87tupnrhvv.8.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tupntrwb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn0b12f0.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1r1kpvqr0.fsf@HIDDEN> <87blbtoj16.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83czw9somb.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1im61odcr.fsf@HIDDEN> <83y2exr4hk.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 20:01:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83y2exr4hk.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 08 Mar 2021 18:32:07 +0200") Message-ID: <m1pn0979mc.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.17872 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.9.1) Content-Length: 507 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46979 Cc: 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > The need to add local variables to files is in itself a downside. I'm not too sold on the local variables approach, either. Perhaps we could expose a customization point in the form of an alist of filename patterns vs corresponding manuals. Emacs would provide a few of them and users could expand the list with more if needed. `Man-default-man-entry' would consult this alist first and fallback to the current behavior of guessing based on the text near point.
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Full text available.Received: (at 46979) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2021 18:15:39 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 08 13:15:39 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44817 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lJKPq-0005EJ-Pg for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 13:15:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44456) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJKPp-0005E6-31 for 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 13:15:37 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJKPj-0000C1-NZ; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 13:15:31 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1949 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJKPi-0007li-PA; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 13:15:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 20:15:24 +0200 Message-Id: <83o8ftqzpf.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87wnuhlgmf.5.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from =?utf-8?B?56mN?= =?utf-8?B?5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson on Tue, 09 Mar 2021 01:06:32 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#46979: Allow setting Man-default-entry via Local Variables References: <87tupnrhvv.8.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tupntrwb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn0b12f0.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1r1kpvqr0.fsf@HIDDEN> <87blbtoj16.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83czw9somb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgzdn1kc.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <835z21smu3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn09myoo.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83wnuhr4eu.fsf@HIDDEN> <87wnuhlgmf.5.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46979 Cc: 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mardani29@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> > Cc: mardani29@HIDDEN, 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 01:06:32 +0800 > > >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > EZ> Who on earth needs to read the man page of crontab(5)? > > How then, do you remember the order of the five numbers on each line? > Is the first the minute, or the hour, etc. > > Also crontab doesn't have an Info manual. > > Anyway, if someone wrote the crontab(5) man page, that probably means it > exists for a reason. > > Same say for fstab(5). OK, but why do you insist on doing this via file-local variables?
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Full text available.Received: (at 46979) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2021 16:34:00 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 08 11:34:00 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lJIpU-0000Y9-0T for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 11:34:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50138) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJIpS-0000Xw-F1 for 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 11:33:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51215) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJIpN-0007HX-76; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 11:33:53 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3332 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJIpL-00014P-My; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 11:33:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 18:33:45 +0200 Message-Id: <83wnuhr4eu.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87pn09myoo.5.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from =?utf-8?B?56mN?= =?utf-8?B?5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson on Mon, 08 Mar 2021 23:51:03 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#46979: Allow setting Man-default-entry via Local Variables References: <87tupnrhvv.8.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tupntrwb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn0b12f0.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1r1kpvqr0.fsf@HIDDEN> <87blbtoj16.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83czw9somb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgzdn1kc.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <835z21smu3.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn09myoo.5.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46979 Cc: 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mardani29@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> > Cc: mardani29@HIDDEN, 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 23:51:03 +0800 > > E.g., we are editing our crontab file, and do M-x man > we don't want to have to type in c r o n t a b ( 5 ) each time. Who on earth needs to read the man page of crontab(5)? Any other examples?
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Mon, 8 Mar 2021 15:48:58 +0000 Received: by smtp408.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 960095f8482aa69372776f2cbcf6df35; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 15:48:53 +0000 (UTC) From: =?utf-8?Q?Daniel_Mart=C3=ADn?= <mardani29@HIDDEN> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46979: Allow setting Man-default-entry via Local Variables References: <87tupnrhvv.8.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tupntrwb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn0b12f0.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1r1kpvqr0.fsf@HIDDEN> <87blbtoj16.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83czw9somb.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 16:48:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83czw9somb.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 08 Mar 2021 16:31:56 +0200") Message-ID: <m1im61odcr.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.17872 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.9.1) Content-Length: 803 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46979 Cc: 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: > > Our solution to this is "C-h S". Did you try it? You can extend its > database if the default lacks something you need. C-h S only searches Info pages. I think this feature request is more about improving the default that M-x man offers, to consider more things than just the text around point. I can see its usefulness, as a lot of Unix tools provide special man pages for its configuration files. Another potential use case is a user visiting a .gitconfig file, where M-x man could suggest "git-config(1)" by default. Similarly for .gitattributes and "gitattributes(5)". As it's almost impossible to have all that knowledge in Emacs core, I see it as a new extensibilty point for users. What are the downsides you see in the local variable approach?
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Full text available.Received: (at 46979) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2021 15:10:42 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 08 10:10:42 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44528 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lJHWr-0004h3-Ur for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 10:10:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57840) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJHWp-0004gn-Ur for 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 10:10:40 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49414) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJHWk-0002mp-7n; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 10:10:34 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2210 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lJHWj-0008A9-G0; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 10:10:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 17:10:28 +0200 Message-Id: <835z21smu3.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87zgzdn1kc.5.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from =?utf-8?B?56mN?= =?utf-8?B?5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson on Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:48:51 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#46979: Allow setting Man-default-entry via Local Variables References: <87tupnrhvv.8.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tupntrwb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn0b12f0.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1r1kpvqr0.fsf@HIDDEN> <87blbtoj16.5.fsf@HIDDEN> <83czw9somb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgzdn1kc.5.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46979 Cc: 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, mardani29@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> > Cc: mardani29@HIDDEN, 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 22:48:51 +0800 > > C-h S, powerful as it may be, only seems to help with 5% of the points I > have made. That's enough to close the bug report from my POV. But why only 5? what real problems does it not handle, pray-say?
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Let's see, one would usually want "make" man and INFO pages when
browsing a makefile. (Ah, we see we want to make a hint about what INFO
page we want too!)
Nobody knows what man pages when browsing a .txt or .html file.
Too many pages when browsing a perl file. OK maybe e.g., Math::Trig if
that is the only "use" used.
Probably no especial page when browsing (oops, I mean editing. Same
above too) a .kml file.
So yes, some alists might be possible. But still... there should be a
way of letting the user use Local Variables per file...
My main use case example is getting
# field allowed values
# ----- --------------
# minute 0=E2=80=9359
# hour 0=E2=80=9323
# day of month 1=E2=80=9331
# month 1=E2=80=9312 (or names, see below)
# day of week 0=E2=80=937 (0 or 7 is Sun, or use names)
reminders that I put in out of my crontab files.
And
# man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf
# man spamassassin-run
out of my spamassassin files... (which are meant for me to put the
cursor on and do M-x man.) (so we see here we want to put two items on a
list of man page defaults!)
>>>>> "DM" =3D=3D Daniel Mart=C3=ADn <mardani29@HIDDEN> writes:
DM> Do you have a more complete list of potential use cases...
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Mon, 8 Mar 2021 11:17:43 +0000 Received: by smtp404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID f4e76eb1bb4d4cf28e3fea6ef76a619b; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 11:17:40 +0000 (UTC) From: =?utf-8?Q?Daniel_Mart=C3=ADn?= <mardani29@HIDDEN> To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46979: Allow setting Man-default-entry via Local Variables References: <87tupnrhvv.8.fsf@HIDDEN> <83tupntrwb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn0b12f0.5.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 12:17:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87pn0b12f0.5.fsf@HIDDEN> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Sun, 07 Mar 2021 22:09:07 +0800") Message-ID: <m1r1kpvqr0.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.17872 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.9.1) Content-Length: 972 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46979 Cc: 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> writes: > > EZ> IMO, it would make much more sense to derive that from the current > EZ> major-mode (in Man-default-man-entry). Patches welcome. > > OK, sounds good. But sometimes e.g., crontab mode is not in emacs > officially yet, so supplementing that should still be an option. The major mode approach would work great for Bash configuration files, for example, but, as you mention, it may not work so well for Cron files or other .rc/.conf files that share Fundamental or Conf mode, in the abscence of a more specific mode. The local variable would require users to add them to existing files, only for Emacs. Do you have a more complete list of potential use cases, ie. common program configuration files with corresponding man pages? I don't know if there are plenty of them, and with that information we could think of the best and simplest way to implement the feature, if it's worth it. Thanks.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#46979; Package emacs.
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bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#46979; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 46979) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2021 06:11:34 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 07 01:11:34 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38772 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lImda-00012e-7X for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:11:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37698) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lImdY-00012O-Nd for 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:11:33 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53560) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lImdT-0004go-AX; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:11:27 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3026 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1lImdR-0000ZF-S9; Sun, 07 Mar 2021 01:11:26 -0500 Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 08:11:16 +0200 Message-Id: <83tupntrwb.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson <jidanni@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87tupnrhvv.8.fsf@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#46979: Allow setting Man-default-entry via Local Variables References: <87tupnrhvv.8.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 46979 Cc: 46979 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson > <jidanni@HIDDEN> > Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 07:18:12 +0800 > > Well wouldn't it be great if one could do e.g., > > # Local Variables: > # Man-default-entry: "crontab(5)" > # End: > > in one's .crontab file. > > Or a > > # Local Variables: > # Man-default-entry: "bash" > # End: > > that one could put in their .bashrc file. IMO, it would make much more sense to derive that from the current major-mode (in Man-default-man-entry). Patches welcome.
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