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On 03/17/21 23:39 PM, Michael Heerdegen wrote:
> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> I was finally able to get mairix to index a test server, and searching
>> worked just fine. One thing I realized afterwards is that I had set the
>> remove-prefix to the directory where the actual mails are kept
>> ("/home/eric/Mail"), whereas it looks like you've set it to the
>> directory where mairix is supposed to put its search-result symlinks
>> ("/home/micha/mairix").
>
> Indeed: I changed that and now searching works well! Many thanks, dunno
> how long I would have had to continue debugging until I had found that.
You would have had to find your way to the definition of
`gnus-search-indexed-parse-output', implemented for the
`gnus-search-indexed' engine class. Mairix isn't mentioned anywhere
around there. Generic functions are awesome, but there can definitely be
a discoverability problem.
>> This is the main difference between nnmairix and gnus-search with
>> mairix: nnmairix actually creates new groups and reads them directly,
>> gnus-search returns a list of results that refer to messages on the
>> original server. The "-r" option is passed to mairix, which tells it not
>> to create its own folders but return the original file names of matched
>> results -- that's why remove-prefix has to refer to the underlying
>> server.
>>
>> Hope that makes sense.
>
> Makes a lot of sense, yes.
>
>> I suppose I should add a note to the documentation?
>
> Yes, it would be good to make that clearer.
I will add a note to the manual, and probably also some code comments at
the top of gnus-search.el, giving hints for bug-hunters. I can close
this bug report when that's done.
> BTW, I didn't even understand why it is even necessary to provide that.
> If Gnus gets absolute names from mairix, why isn't it able to resolve
> them in this case?
The local-indexed search code conflates the two issues of 1) where is
the file that represents a single search results, and 2) how do we get
from that file path to an article number that a Gnus server will
understand.
If you look at the code in the function mentioned above, you'll see the
whole process is surprisingly hacky. The "remove-prefix" is chopped off
the front of the filepath, then the next part of the filepath is
interpreted as a group name, then it attempts to turn the non-directory
filename into an article number somehow. If the remove-prefix is wrong,
the later code gets a full filepath and doesn't know what to do with it.
I think all nnmail-type servers have some config for "directory" or
"nnmh-directory" or whatever, and I think there's a good chance that the
remove-prefix can be made redundant with this config.
I'm a little surprised it works as well as it does!
Eric
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Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes:
> I was finally able to get mairix to index a test server, and searching
> worked just fine. One thing I realized afterwards is that I had set the
> remove-prefix to the directory where the actual mails are kept
> ("/home/eric/Mail"), whereas it looks like you've set it to the
> directory where mairix is supposed to put its search-result symlinks
> ("/home/micha/mairix").
Indeed: I changed that and now searching works well! Many thanks, dunno
how long I would have had to continue debugging until I had found that.
> This is the main difference between nnmairix and gnus-search with
> mairix: nnmairix actually creates new groups and reads them directly,
> gnus-search returns a list of results that refer to messages on the
> original server. The "-r" option is passed to mairix, which tells it not
> to create its own folders but return the original file names of matched
> results -- that's why remove-prefix has to refer to the underlying
> server.
>
> Hope that makes sense.
Makes a lot of sense, yes.
> I suppose I should add a note to the documentation?
Yes, it would be good to make that clearer.
BTW, I didn't even understand why it is even necessary to provide that.
If Gnus gets absolute names from mairix, why isn't it able to resolve
them in this case?
Thanks,
Michael.
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On 03/17/21 02:02 AM, Michael Heerdegen wrote:
> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes:
>
>> So maybe you're running into the exact same bug as before, via a
>> different path? :)
>
> Tried my luck on debugging, but it's really hard for me.
>
> What I can say is that `nnselect-retrieve-headers' does not retrieve any
> headers but gives up instead. I'm not sure if there is a problem with
> paths or whatever. While debugging, in one of 10 trials then the thing
> suddenly worked (!), I could see the expected matches but I did not find
> a pattern what was different at that moment. And quitting the group
> then gave the error
>
> | gnus-list-of-unread-articles: Group
> nnml+archive:home.micha.Mail.archive..emacs couldn't be activated
>
> Hope somebody knowing the code can reproduce the issue.
I was finally able to get mairix to index a test server, and searching
worked just fine. One thing I realized afterwards is that I had set the
remove-prefix to the directory where the actual mails are kept
("/home/eric/Mail"), whereas it looks like you've set it to the
directory where mairix is supposed to put its search-result symlinks
("/home/micha/mairix").
This is the main difference between nnmairix and gnus-search with
mairix: nnmairix actually creates new groups and reads them directly,
gnus-search returns a list of results that refer to messages on the
original server. The "-r" option is passed to mairix, which tells it not
to create its own folders but return the original file names of matched
results -- that's why remove-prefix has to refer to the underlying
server.
Hope that makes sense. I suppose I should add a note to the
documentation?
Eric
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Full text available.Received: (at 47130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Mar 2021 21:46:57 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 16 17:46:57 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41240 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lMHWi-0004aM-Jh for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2021 17:46:57 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:33418 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eric@HIDDEN>) id 1lMHWg-0004a2-Cn for 47130 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2021 17:46:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@HIDDEN) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15AFAFA0FB; Tue, 16 Mar 2021 21:46:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1615931208; bh=vGfgZAl5UCl6VGmrJ/eoQHEWHgh/oIHLm044kR28+Bw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=srAbRufEWwDWtSN7GOOtsavRg/qy1ttfDCa+rGLt4Ag04yhTBDguKUbmFVFHPJXt9 5/abqxhJZszL5foac8WYXsst5mS7+b3A2iadDXkePkxo+287k3agB/a5ybiuyCDoAA Im3mRJZnBxaglqkixsCFo6NU3GzUs6z9Nwf9iYkc= From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47130: 28.0.50; Gnus: mairix doesn't work anymore References: <87v99u49v2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r1ki49au.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn01oy7o.fsf@HIDDEN> <871rcg2cwb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87blbjg5rv.fsf@HIDDEN> <875z1r2256.fsf@HIDDEN> <87zgz39242.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 14:46:46 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87zgz39242.fsf@HIDDEN> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Tue, 16 Mar 2021 05:03:25 +0100") Message-ID: <874kharcu1.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47130 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 47130 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 03/16/21 05:03 AM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes: > >> So maybe you're running into the exact same bug as before, via a >> different path? :) > > Yes, seems so... > >> I don't have mairix installed and haven't used it before, let me get >> things set up and see if I can reproduce the error, using your config >> etc. > > Great, thanks. I hope it's not my fault at the end. Tell me if you > have any question. > > Setting up mairix is easy. You only need to save the .mairixrc. Note > that the "mfolder" path is not ~-exanded, however, must be > /home/user/etc. "base" is where you stored mails live. > > Then run the "mairix" binary and see if it creates an index. If you > don't have thousands of messages that will terminate more or less > instantly. That's already all. Well this is embarrassing, I can't get it to do anything at all. I dumped a bunch of messages in ~/Mail/archive, set up my .mairixrc like: base=/home/eric/Mail/archive mfolder=/home/eric/mairix mh=... mformat=mh omit=zz_mairix-* database=~/.mairixdatabase I also created the mfolder directory in case mairix wasn't going to do that for me (what's that actually for?). But running "mairix -v" tells me "No new messages found", and the ~/.mairixdatabase isn't created. My messages have numerical file names. Is there anything else I need to set up?
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Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes:
> My only advice is to not use nnmairix (which no one is maintaining), and
> just use mairix as a regular backend to gnus-search (which should do
> everything that nnmairix ever did).
Seems to be cool - I tried it, but didn't get it work. I tried to
search my (locally) archived messages with G G and mairix.
This is my mairixrc:
| base=~/Mail/archive
| mfolder=/home/micha/mairix
| mh=...
| mformat=mh
| omit=zz_mairix-*
| database=~/.mairixdatabase
and I use this config for Gnus:
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(setq gnus-search-mairix-remove-prefix
(expand-file-name "mairix/" "~")) ; correct?
(setf (alist-get 'nnml gnus-search-default-engines)
'gnus-search-mairix)
#+end_src
When searching with G G mairix seems to be called; I get a prompt asking
how many of a plausible varying number of articles I want to see in the
created group; I hit RET to accept the default and Gnus just says
"No unread news"
and that's it. Am I doing something wrong?
TIA,
Michael.
bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#47130; Package emacs.
Full text available.Received: (at 47130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Mar 2021 00:50:47 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 15 20:50:47 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37621 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lLxv4-0004fT-Oe for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2021 20:50:46 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:34448 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eric@HIDDEN>) id 1lLxv1-0004fF-V7 for 47130 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2021 20:50:45 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@HIDDEN) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF654FA0FB; Tue, 16 Mar 2021 00:50:37 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1615855838; bh=oVnwALvayakQdJexFsKKBHkCtvrh5JXv15kZzZvhUB4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=WLagSFXVK5XIfzK6wkVZ4lI5AMVbr1IpeW/sMsD3Lbr82bTHtVXgQO8pYHAqKfsD+ 6Eu2vgZArR4WQpKl4hAxzCCFWOfWLPLzbrolB3Yut5i4HYl5g3KH4flU8z3nleccvL eCCiAKHakwTiCchLBGEPO4hmD1Hac/C270aoULxU= From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47130: 28.0.50; Gnus: mairix doesn't work anymore References: <87v99u49v2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r1ki49au.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn01oy7o.fsf@HIDDEN> <871rcg2cwb.fsf@HIDDEN> <87o8fkaqap.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:50:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87o8fkaqap.fsf@HIDDEN> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Tue, 16 Mar 2021 01:35:42 +0100") Message-ID: <87sg4v2a78.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47130 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 47130 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 03/16/21 01:35 AM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes: > >> My only advice is to not use nnmairix (which no one is maintaining), and >> just use mairix as a regular backend to gnus-search (which should do >> everything that nnmairix ever did). >> >> Not helpful, I know, but that's all I've got... > > Oh -- no, very helpful! > > Can we then maybe make it a bit more discoverable that nnmairix is > obsolete (and if it's unmaintained and doesn't work, it is, in reality, > very obsolete)? If I don't read the introducing paragraph of the large > part that covers nnmairix in the Gnus manual (and why should I when I > know what it does), I can't obtain that information (or can I?). I have > wasted hours of trying to get nnmairx work and debug it the last two > days. Ugh, I'm sorry. I knew that nnmairix's functionality was obsoleted by the newer libraries, but didn't know that it simply didn't work anymore. Sorry for your wasted time! I think it might be time to move nnmairix to lisp/obsolete? Let's see what Lars has to say about procedure/protocol. Eric
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Full text available.Received: (at 47130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Mar 2021 00:36:03 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 15 20:36:03 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37611 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lLxgp-0002Ag-6g for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2021 20:36:03 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:49027) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>) id 1lLxgm-0002A9-NI for 47130 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2021 20:36:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1615854944; bh=2xylajnIDsXRzMr9+pQDuJ+OaPE+ZN7KY26hEpDVau8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=mYdjwrgAIeXoza4CwYoCfA+tnIrpmv2tORRUkUJCjTMDp7vGCgmMeDTFXC0acwtKf KT1krYqKHlXTNgDHOgW7VXqBoe712H+gMrvCaf5kORJwuWD0QHeA7R7Pl7OeFwPrWE Dkx+AleUdEqkrukHcqsHrYznTs63MbDpmadwgDA4= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.67.97.131]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb003 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LvBJK-1llZVS1P6I-010Q1k; Tue, 16 Mar 2021 01:35:44 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47130: 28.0.50; Gnus: mairix doesn't work anymore References: <87v99u49v2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r1ki49au.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn01oy7o.fsf@HIDDEN> <871rcg2cwb.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 01:35:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871rcg2cwb.fsf@HIDDEN> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:52:20 -0700") Message-ID: <87o8fkaqap.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:KnE0zxTdCESCTjtEXWzHc06Gtb6nRnMvgorVkL01oFX8YzHWANv LbPZw6ldhuxNOhUk4uZHN4+4qlMzVbQKv+8ySX9/Oo8n33CbYIKCgMiBd9T2ZIUkTanl5Bt QDjrNsf87N3zdunCVIPLxQAwQccPY1Qz9Mo8DsaaRvywvtNXXJP6a1DR5W7w4isvX9OtexP 6OeeYK8BKtaY70KfGjnoA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:+N0+yiQVJhY=:RgjJk8dmQmua+Om42N3X6i xDgh5+b18IUf4SUy5Hgttnl+mBPJ7qWqblZOS9bD4RmaqOJ0RyG12z0kAx/1DGcfS9rCqbPR4 3xG9N/NKGQ4axIY0kSCg8j1grx/IGgsU6sebwXy9ZUHD/09SQjCdfsZA952GLU7s4OZM3vegb +UzR0wQq50eHLJfk5LC8ziBGS54EKL3TAY/4lCU2tB3K71INlP28MqI5WOnKk4SRMWnrXqDj/ 7MDbIF4o4ger0fWcN56+usZJciSk4SYJTZdUvNKz2s5h4ibiKgtlhid5Dt3mowegqW4PwFKHc UOEK+t2j1Rgpghqdcmto5xDS1lk7IrSCMQigv1ZOFj2GTWAnpjSj7yavmPOZctkdyaqiGlpnI 8z1u5/iR6wQNc9CvG9Nln/9aqIvAuEThiziGmLpPKvbt6yZ1a/toF56q9ERxS5mLG8KfrqmGE AxCNyUQSvoPeBtQWvFTeWbjCu8IkBxMDiVe1bmtLQ5SiAC5P59rhHoW9tHIEdvOmkhSeqP/yA oCWVdGGUXstRb3XMBEZIiODzlpxnqI3U/XYILd/lbXR2CgYGKUQxV5ORwGYxun4WqQAquVbeJ n3ABS7aT+TqipGmL0jgNMsxWmzR1BWOBF55QgnS4QnP/iNBg9aJppxqikk1wePqwfSwiVrPrJ 63njiy1lZDCBxgZVJY1hf+8aW5X/tMsUFxvcshcU53eBVT8WozanVPXgsKvLJSynCPlpEcVmP C3KeoQ1OnrlyHrBqvj0f1cEYUM9s8htt8qoRxC4UdxQNP7Cz35DtNKDarT78nAypgLvHzXjl3 LsMNTphEGpxvbPtJ57TA3Jf/s+d7pdt5dRXoV4JXX7m3vMYi2SduZst7x3rGhWTffTazuBQNI bZ8AzLoJCu33tvRdln8j6PytuXEQp+6RPU82N0lns= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47130 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 47130 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> writes: > My only advice is to not use nnmairix (which no one is maintaining), and > just use mairix as a regular backend to gnus-search (which should do > everything that nnmairix ever did). > > Not helpful, I know, but that's all I've got... Oh -- no, very helpful! Can we then maybe make it a bit more discoverable that nnmairix is obsolete (and if it's unmaintained and doesn't work, it is, in reality, very obsolete)? If I don't read the introducing paragraph of the large part that covers nnmairix in the Gnus manual (and why should I when I know what it does), I can't obtain that information (or can I?). I have wasted hours of trying to get nnmairx work and debug it the last two days. Thanks, Michael.
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Full text available.Received: (at 47130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2021 23:52:30 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 15 19:52:30 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37549 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lLx0g-0005LU-0W for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2021 19:52:30 -0400 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:56946 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eric@HIDDEN>) id 1lLx0e-0005LI-LN for 47130 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2021 19:52:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@HIDDEN) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A223BFA166; Mon, 15 Mar 2021 23:52:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1615852342; bh=S82PfNlUyZqn0y5qm9nXgs+EO6pInlTpaUafRRMkKhQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=xfID3le+qRSB3qVecQqTWS7iR+lXWhnQfWDecixgx9Y+wHB04vmUj5ZJPU6TpYeKB 53fcgW4AplZ4ylnUFlHcOofDc5TN1nxRQZK0L0Ga7BXyjNWt//N5gs1nB+y4OnpPI3 WfonDAx/Kbq6KRg+wk8oSabSLJRBqF4gwUe5oxCM= From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN> To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47130: 28.0.50; Gnus: mairix doesn't work anymore References: <87v99u49v2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r1ki49au.fsf@HIDDEN> <87pn01oy7o.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:52:20 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87pn01oy7o.fsf@HIDDEN> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Mon, 15 Mar 2021 05:08:43 +0100") Message-ID: <871rcg2cwb.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47130 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>, 47130 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > >> > [rants about nnmairix not working in Gnus...] >> >> Forgot to say this is in Emacs master. > > Some more experimentation: Gnus calls the mairix process, mairix creates > and fills directories with search results as expected, these also seem > to appear as newly created search-related groups, but visiting these > groups always fails with "contains no messages". G D with this dir > works. > > Anyone any idea? My only advice is to not use nnmairix (which no one is maintaining), and just use mairix as a regular backend to gnus-search (which should do everything that nnmairix ever did). Not helpful, I know, but that's all I've got...
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Full text available.Received: (at 47130) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2021 04:09:02 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 15 00:09:02 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34619 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lLeXO-0007AK-1e for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2021 00:09:02 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:51907) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN>) id 1lLeXM-0007A0-EV for 47130 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2021 00:09:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1615781325; bh=lZpXpve3ZP7nqNhnkKfmA1JOWl0IZrt3BaWsQmOt9OM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=gMOIT96oVKEozGP6Qoxfw+v8796+iTBTaatiH82EuDYpNwI0Yc8fFAWAREFsZ4gOT j7sb+qqHlvvHhszzjETn3Vc9oWgSJDs3L4jYNx8CekaGakZqoNXNGDqcjZ25ygM4Hq lRI94ma9X1/Z2kE+BACclLWChlZgwYp0+zUc83qg= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.67.97.131]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb003 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lz3CK-1lqGFg3Tu4-014FZu; Mon, 15 Mar 2021 05:08:44 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> To: 47130 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#47130: 28.0.50; Gnus: mairix doesn't work anymore References: <87v99u49v2.fsf@HIDDEN> <87r1ki49au.fsf@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 05:08:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87r1ki49au.fsf@HIDDEN> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 14 Mar 2021 06:02:33 +0100") Message-ID: <87pn01oy7o.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:qs0xEoogmUe8WWMx8yht59g4ooZ0xZKtfNdspAztCUZ6uwpnKDD GPvJeVallBaPkHx8xLPj/kHTFtdOZNgYmgUUIDotSnxMhmJGnpFGlx92iKSieMuVAs/woWQ 2RzjCXSTlXH1uvIxqxUC3m0WuP8Np+aiUrKQ5SGb/CFBJVtirsEP3GdGXPYXz4ysGCu/Gi8 pIIDVtS5KQ+zS0ey0cYEQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:iLinCH/b6VA=:PxcwkmCAM8Nj05IcosE9et ZCXyH+puV8cl8QUnkuPhxswo3m6uKO6LA6JKtxReLHtlCs4T8AkSLH8kY8Kgrhqzot1t9JG/+ kmsDi6W2HIcWMQQW3RP12GedALlhbBerk2nl6AsJbKpKzXKBIqtYnStJSldE4hDCEg5DzM5dx /lso96ZDdsOJdgZwOeUKm1+Nuq+ohkQbEhadG5Xo1daV61lpZTjA4sXzBnyT9B4FtwtaKRJ5Z hRfs2f+RrZkmxO5R3dSCKY319sCdrL4/C4RPGbZijc7rt/R7Cv4llCaCwJLhYuz0XamzcElex 4LzXTZSo/s6CZ3U0YRy+Vl2ZbAafhU3D4QtYIwJbK9PjHFptsW2haiMaZh1kkWedCL4C42Kxx 3jedNqs2ugtvF3sdyTgMz1oYE2k3Joz9EVwfc0RjTUWyGWg/smADS7f54fOZ343nBYfr+G9ul ws9+uhbZecALbGTs1hRxbm7W2JUFUso2gbVPmjRkMuVxtmedlZxaxF/cTvt5Gqg1hj5PP7bvE IyDBpD+TfssUuLRVZUY4xdCRH9+nsYknlGBfbueNRFAvlbwgq4DD91y56a66BbUvDIbaIJBdh 8bgvhYOhxHpjLR7vUzZc71M5drk6p3WcSqrMjIFq1XFO+vHgajlT5oq+GGRduX/Fzn6fhLjjg we+5HHQX6mQ4C436+ZIkV8AoFth62cS50KQ/ssho0lOgw3Lj+o2rlfUkRx6VYt2v9Fj5GSH5h ylEc5MDpRWa4CltGYa3h8KdzOLmFOo42v6Jfyr2698RX5Ft6TbUzKjPDDvvkHCy4WaZGY47Vc Wy2cTqdBp8xNDf7lAL43YJP3fStNFeu0kfjtYVgINztLhZFHU6u0hR5Z6OBYrX9YcTACRxOzq nEFpvU+buZlV6W0SqrimiSyq48qr6oLM6olNsn2Tg= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47130 Cc: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@HIDDEN>, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > > [rants about nnmairix not working in Gnus...] > > Forgot to say this is in Emacs master. Some more experimentation: Gnus calls the mairix process, mairix creates and fills directories with search results as expected, these also seem to appear as newly created search-related groups, but visiting these groups always fails with "contains no messages". G D with this dir works. Anyone any idea? TIA, Michael.
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Some years ago I had setup nnmairix for Gnus to be able to search mails. It was hard. It worked for some months. Since then, every single time when I tried to use it, it was broken, and needed manual intervention to fix. Most of the time, I had to repeat the setup, and that worked. Now, I tried several hours to get it work, but failed, no chance whatever I tried. I see that mairix works fine in the background, but Gnus doesn't. I only get empty or inaccessible groups corresponding to the search. Recreating or editing the related nnml group(s) doesn't help. Gnus doesn't let me edit the nnmairix server definition, it says I had to do it "in my configuration". I have no clue in which. I don't create that server in my normal setup. .newsrc.eld maybe? Thanks to the overlong lines, Emacs is not even able to edit that file. I could try longlines or so, but I gave up for now, since I don't even know if it is the right file and what I should try. Is anybody using this? Should be a common task to search mails in Gnus. Why is it so hard? TIA, Michael.
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