Received: (at 47424) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2021 09:05:51 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 04 05:05:51 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34850 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lSyhb-0008Dd-FU for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 05:05:51 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f175.google.com ([209.85.214.175]:37844) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <stefankangas@HIDDEN>) id 1lSyhZ-0008DO-43 for 47424 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 05:05:51 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f175.google.com with SMTP id h20so4355641plr.4 for <47424 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 02:05:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lg0N+A19TxrL34m5xZcj+6ZJ22+/fbeo/ZH9LZF7ZHg=; b=KFuX75vg9FaHaukHyzRDB/323jZimIsd4oFJiyyEHeCumhvZgduZRYyIAwuLGe1y7Y wugcyFVTTrhm3klICCgMnSUBRxQQxf7WMU+ihpZcHkzUi6yOO6NlgxipA3yENWaXcWb0 cXzgeXW5QfW4PNVMHX4hXc8397z9RU1MnJnqKj1FQe722hy0egxYgYhNy77ZDN7y6IAF nPr5kW972L47xMuUhZzBjHDWZwdbJzpH1QfuMRaVmpXJ1fwInydMrj/gf8GLFe9X1/mD mpPq0qDx8y3CdVtO8bYPWPAz1SLxX++kM5XTyTJUcpZRxAJXun3pn1qYtnaIoZ05ykbR Uhug== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530FsVbB+QpLYcpclKlcSChTUGmCzt1OpzeQrHhA2il5U96KVnwB l4GLknI7MCdV+DZTHmG0SHRW2pozoXY+2LNt7OY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxZopQoUhx8UFPriZTHLeVmHys7yx8E0oTLC0mK+xnK8goB83XzMPLp6SbB5nbgXIszQ6X0diLVDrSTSDSSWFo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:7788:b029:e9:11:5334 with SMTP id o8-20020a1709027788b02900e900115334mr1395061pll.70.1617527143447; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 02:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:05:43 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <83czvaecf5.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <jwv5z1dwq2i.fsf@HIDDEN> <m1y2e9e55d.fsf@HIDDEN> <jwvtuoxz7ey.fsf-monnier+emacs@HIDDEN> <CADwFkmnZZbmuzE3irWXQDLFM7seLPgaipOg7dh6iuHFxSSNziQ@HIDDEN> <83czvaecf5.fsf@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2021 04:05:43 -0500 Message-ID: <CADwFkm=gkhHppCgmNCVFfS61uQXRKVYnuUa16BR_PFQhtBaqvQ@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47424: 28.0.50; enable-theme shows an empty list To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 47424 Cc: 47424 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@HIDDEN, mardani29@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> I'm not exactly sure why we bother differentiating between loading a >> theme and enabling it. Technically, I understand that there is a >> difference. But why should a user have to fiddle around with it? > > For the same reason that loading a Lisp package shouldn't change the > Emacs state, until the user explicitly activates the features in the > package. It's unclean to have loading activate stuff, and we've > invested an effort during the last years to remove that uncleanliness. I still don't see why a user should need to worry about this distinction or the complexities involved. It seems like a suboptimal interface. We are here talking about user-facing features. I think it should be enough to have one knob to disable themes and one knob to enable them. > With themes, you can load several ones and then enable/disable any of > them whenever you see fit. I don't see why a user would want/need to load a theme if she does not intend to use it. If the user wants to load it for later use, why not just defer loading it until that time? And if a user *really* wants to load a theme for some reason, there is always e.g. `load-file' or `load-library'. What am I missing? > Under your proposal, disabling a theme would be impossible without > unloading it, and that might not be easy to do cleanly. I'm not sure I follow; I see no need to make it symmetrical in that sense. In the same way, we don't bother unloading a library just because the major-mode involved is not used in any buffer. But we do provide a way to autoload major modes. BTW, why would an end-user ever need to unload a theme? Is it not enough to simply disable it?
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>> According to the documentation, `enable-theme' enables variable and face
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>> doesn't offer completions in emacs -Q, because there is no loaded theme
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>>
>> Perhaps you wanted to do M-x load-theme, which should properly complete
>> with themes from etc/themes, among other directories?
>
> I know it works as documented, but I don't think it's the behavior we
> really want. We should autoload themes, just like we autoload pretty
> much everything else.
BTW, we already do some of that for themes in other cases.
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> According to the documentation, `enable-theme' enables variable and face
> settings of already loaded themes, so I think it makes sense that it
> doesn't offer completions in emacs -Q, because there is no loaded theme
> yet.
>
> Perhaps you wanted to do M-x load-theme, which should properly complete
> with themes from etc/themes, among other directories?
I know it works as documented, but I don't think it's the behavior we
really want. We should autoload themes, just like we autoload pretty
much everything else.
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Package: Emacs
Version: 28.0.50
If I do
emacs -Q
M-x enable-theme RET TAB
I'd expect to see a list of available themes including at least thoese
in `etc/themes`, but that list is empty ;-(
Stefan
In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 1, i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.24, cairo version 1.16.0)
of 2021-03-16 built on alfajor
Repository revision: e325e51217a5504dd61656eeaf1b7d62ecdc0248
Repository branch: work
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12010000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid
Configured using:
'configure -C --enable-checking --enable-check-lisp-object-type --with-modules --with-cairo --with-tiff=ifavailable
'CFLAGS=-Wall -g3 -Og -Wno-pointer-sign'
PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/monnier/lib/pkgconfig'
Configured features:
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locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
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auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
Load-path shadows:
/home/monnier/src/emacs/elpa/packages/ivy-hydra/ivy-hydra hides /home/monnier/src/emacs/elpa/packages/ivy/ivy-hydra
/home/monnier/src/emacs/elpa/packages/hyperbole/set hides /home/monnier/src/emacs/work/lisp/emacs-lisp/set
/home/monnier/src/emacs/elpa/packages/landmark/landmark hides /home/monnier/src/emacs/work/lisp/obsolete/landmark
/home/monnier/src/emacs/elpa/packages/crisp/crisp hides /home/monnier/src/emacs/work/lisp/obsolete/crisp
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timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core
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hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify
dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo
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Stefan Monnier <monnier@HIDDEN>:bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN.
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