Received: (at 47455) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2021 05:49:00 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 31 01:49:00 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60781 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lnanM-0006SP-0r for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 01:49:00 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55826) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1lnanJ-0006S9-0c for 47455 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 May 2021 01:48:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=4rfw8cUa0RAiEyHguWSpv3jVYc6UKbp1LiK0qHppTAY=; b=sDsyGHEVZARgwM/uw5M4ep+q+i u3UldiYL/Yw5+v3KIoKzSWFo0kSe9Vgz+JU1DaXPPu9X64i8qaZf3L9p3xPC9GBGzfyVkReBPwAqZ sdwJfKn2BGpFOAtvDxQThpVJ+/eMyQvsjFR5SaLZgOlaer4KGzEFuxweyv3nY4F1aCaQ=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1lnan9-000612-Vh; Mon, 31 May 2021 07:48:50 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: "Roland Winkler" <winkler@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#47455: 27.1; bibtex mode - citation key generation - non-ascii characters References: <aa8ebb57a9fb452fa0f5d3147ce5d922@HIDDEN> <87wnrwc9ia.fsf@HIDDEN> <3816.41298.758059.24740@HIDDEN> <878s43aivd.fsf@HIDDEN> <39413.75034.396197.24750@HIDDEN> <730b1644528547f78ea6910f882591d6@HIDDEN> <1540.59554.339986.24756@HIDDEN> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAG1BMVEUWEhJEOztlW1qG eneMgHzQw7+ompgsJib///9RCNRGAAAAAWJLR0QIht6VegAAAAd0SU1FB+UFHwUdOJti/kEAAAGB SURBVDjLlZLNUoMwEMeDOubKojNcJTjj1YGOD9AyvEE5Oy3Ea9bLvr7ZTUhbpH78Lwn7y36jVGYW atvWPCml7gbrNe0v9O7BjRX5r4gP9ji9JjAJkOPQW8uhbgUMU4woh4AY6lKXoOskGTuugGkFjLGK YT2HpP9j8iUY/g2uhfJjb/s1oJRGMPVbsPiRjb7PXCVpAihMUTe8q8axxWlSJMICvIoKDIMMkubl Ajipatx+NiFEUgD247zkbtN3uzxsMOcm4+7suOl2Au73+zwzddtJM/3o17INyTkiXxT6eoBTv6gf pQmdIkdYPR4qIOR+KFFCKOpW1ts82zgSlP4B0Gz4Bxv6NESf2vlo3qt6aIQec8lBbPUHcWG1qWvT MsgqKLXYS/+EV9A0RjxKQgSKcvwAIY4doZQiifjCjwSUyCHkvQwfZwDhoBmVyUMsM4mppEEh0ceF I4yDUtTZpNUpuO9kOV4X/egbUYlcYyH27zrz16GB9BUb0os0p1ZPtx/0BRDzCCYXISHNAAAAJXRF WHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTA1LTMxVDA1OjI5OjU2KzAwOjAwSqpf2wAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpt b2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wNS0zMVQwNToyOTo1NiswMDowMDv352cAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Scorn's _Cafe Mor_: "Never Let It Be Said" Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 07:48:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1540.59554.339986.24756@HIDDEN> (Roland Winkler's message of "Sun, 30 May 2021 16:39:16 -0500") Message-ID: <8735u3lagy.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "Roland Winkler" <winkler@HIDDEN> writes: > One can also instruct font-lock to use for non-ascii characters > something like font-lock-warning-face (based on a user option for > enabling this behavior). 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Sounds like a good idea. > However this fails with something like the unicode character > 'ZERO WIDTH SPACE' (which has fooled me occassionally in the very > context we are discussing here). Is it possible to instruct emacs > to make such "hidden characters" more easily visible, say by using > some display property? I vaguely remember a discussion about this not too long ago, but I can't find it now. All the other space "special" space characters, like NON-BREAKING SPACE and the like, are fontified specially by default in Emacs 28. But the point of ZERO WIDTH SPACE is that it takes no room, which makes it difficult to fontify. :-) But bibtex could apply a special display property here, or fontify the surrounding characters in a special way. > The fontification could also be encapsulated in a minor mode that > one could use for \(Bib\|La\)?TeX files. > > Maybe such a minor mode exists already and I am right now > reinventing the wheel? I can't recall any such minor mode. Anybody else? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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On Fri May 28 2021 Brian Elmegaard wrote:
> I understand your reasoning about this being an issue with the
> tools used. In auctex I can also enter \newcommand{\=C3=BC}{u} without
> being warned that it will not work with latex.
>=20
> The warning seems to be a good idea to me as well.
I realized:
One can also instruct font-lock to use for non-ascii characters
something like font-lock-warning-face (based on a user option for
enabling this behavior).
And Auctex could do the same.
However this fails with something like the unicode character
'ZERO WIDTH SPACE' (which has fooled me occassionally in the very
context we are discussing here). Is it possible to instruct emacs
to make such "hidden characters" more easily visible, say by using
some display property?
The fontification could also be encapsulated in a minor mode that
one could use for \(Bib\|La\)?TeX files.
Maybe such a minor mode exists already and I am right now
reinventing the wheel?
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Hi
Thanks for looking into this.
I understand your reasoning about this being an issue with the tools used.
In auctex I can also enter \newcommand{\=FC}{u} without being warned that i=
t will not work with latex.
The warning seems to be a good idea to me as well.
Brian
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To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
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On Tue May 25 2021 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> And this gets even more difficult to deal with for non-Latin scripts.
>=20
> So I'm not sure anything here can be done programmatically... the=20
> command could output a warning? "Probably invalid key"?
The warning is a good idea. Actually, the warning should be issued if ther=
e are non-ascii characters anywhere in a BibTeX key because
(oldfashioned) BibTeX will choke on those no matter where they appear. So =
I'll add a new element for the user variable bibtex-entry-format for this. =
Then users can enable these warnings if they use oldfashioned BibTeX. (Th=
ose who use modern variants of BibTeX need not enable these warnings.)
I believe that the real problem here lies in the fact that many publishers =
of scientific journals let you download citation records for their journal =
articles. When they offer not only BibTeX-formatted records but other form=
ats, too, the BibTeX records are often malformed, decorated with non-ascii =
characters that BibTeX (and
LaTeX) cannot handle and other things. I have been fooled a number of time=
s by "invisible" non-ascii characters. So I will enable the new option for=
myself!
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On Tue May 18 2021 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Brian Elmegaard <be@HIDDEN> writes:
>=20
> > Using C-c C-c in a bibtex cleans the entry and generates a citation key.
> > If the author name includes non-ascii characters these are included in
> > the key, even though BibTeX does not accept this.
>=20
> Is this the case for all versions of BibTeX?
I believe the problem lies here already in BibTeX itself, that is,
BibTeX [like conventional (La)TeX] does not like non-ascii
characters anywhere, not in the key nor anywhere else.
Of course, there is biblatex and also new versions of (La)TeX that
can handle non-ascii characters. But that's a separate story.
> > For example:
> >
> > @Article{=C3=A4=C3=B6=C3=BC21,
> > author =3D {=C3=A6=C3=B8=C3=A5 =C3=A4=C3=B6=C3=BC},
>=20
> I guess Emacs could an asciification of some sort here, but I'm
> not sure there's any that's universally accepted?
The default of the user variable bibtex-autokey-transcriptions
handles "LaTeX non-ascii" characters like \"a. You can customize
these rules to your liking.
I vaguely remember an old thread that started from the very question
raised here and expanding on how asciification can be encapsulated
in some generic piece of elisp code. But I cannot find it anymore
and I do not know either whether this would be possible at all. I
believe, everyone agrees on asciification of German umlaute like
=C3=A4 -> ae
But beyond that, I do not know how to do this satisfactorily.
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Brian Elmegaard <be@HIDDEN> writes:
> Using C-c C-c in a bibtex cleans the entry and generates a citation key.
>
> If the author name includes non-ascii characters these are included in
>
> the key, even though BibTeX does not accept this.
Is this the case for all versions of BibTeX?
> For example:
>
> @Article{=C3=A4=C3=B6=C3=BC21,
>
> author =3D {=C3=A6=C3=B8=C3=A5 =C3=A4=C3=B6=C3=BC},
>
> title =3D {foo},
>
> journal =3D {bar},
>
> year =3D 2021}
I guess Emacs could an asciification of some sort here, but I'm not sure
there's any that's universally accepted? I've added Roland to the
CCs -- perhaps he has some comments.
--=20
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Checking 180 files in c:/Progra=
m Files (x86)/Emacs/emacs-27.1-x86_64/share/emacs/27.1/lisp/emacs-lisp...<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Checking 24 files in c:/Program=
Files (x86)/Emacs/emacs-27.1-x86_64/share/emacs/27.1/lisp/cedet...<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Checking 59 files in c:/Program=
Files (x86)/Emacs/emacs-27.1-x86_64/share/emacs/27.1/lisp/calendar...<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Checking 87 files in c:/Program=
Files (x86)/Emacs/emacs-27.1-x86_64/share/emacs/27.1/lisp/calc...<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Checking 113 files in c:/Progra=
m Files (x86)/Emacs/emacs-27.1-x86_64/share/emacs/27.1/lisp/obsolete...<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Checking 1 files in c:/Users/br=
el/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/lisp/dna-mode...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Checking for load-path shadows.=
..done<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Making completion list...<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Configured using:<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">'configure --without-dbus --hos=
t=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">--without-compress-install 'CFL=
AGS=3D-O2 -static''<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Configured features:<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUN=
D NOTIFY W32NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">HARFBUZZ ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BA=
RS MODULES THREADS JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Important settings:<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> value of $LANG: DAN<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> locale-coding-system: cp=
1252<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Major mode: Lisp Interaction<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Minor modes in effect:<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> save-place-mode: t<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> delete-selection-mode: t=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> show-paren-mode: t<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> recentf-mode: t<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> global-auto-revert-mode:=
t<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> cua-mode: t<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> TeX-PDF-mode: t<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> TeX-source-correlate-mod=
e: t<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> tooltip-mode: t<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> global-eldoc-mode: t<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> eldoc-mode: t<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> electric-indent-mode: t<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> mouse-wheel-mode: t<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> tool-bar-mode: t<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> menu-bar-mode: t<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> file-name-shadow-mode: t=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> global-font-lock-mode: t=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> font-lock-mode: t<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> auto-composition-mode: t=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> auto-encryption-mode: t<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> auto-compression-mode: t=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> line-number-mode: t<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"> transient-mark-mode: t<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Load-path shadows:<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">None found.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Features:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">(help-mode pp shadow sort mail-=
extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc8=
22 mml mml-sec epa derived epg epg-config<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs =
text-property-search time-date mm-decode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse =
rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-d=
rums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">saveplace delsel paren recentf =
tree-widget wid-edit autorevert<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">filenotify cua-base cus-start c=
us-load server tex-mik tex crm advice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">texmathp finder-inf info tex-si=
te package easymenu browse-url<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">url-handlers url-parse auth-sou=
rce cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">eieio-loaddefs password-cache j=
son subr-x map url-vars seq byte-opt gv<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-=
loaddefs cl-lib tooltip eldoc electric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks li=
sp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">disp-table term/w32-win w32-win=
w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list repla=
ce newcomment<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register pa=
ge tab-bar menu-bar<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">rfn-eshadow isearch timer selec=
t scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">syntax facemenu font-core term/=
tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-l=
ang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">korean japanese eucjp-ms cp5193=
2 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">european ethiopic indian cyrill=
ic chinese composite charscript charprop<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-ho=
ok help simple abbrev obarray<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs b=
utton faces cus-face macroexp files<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">text-properties overlay sha1 md=
5 base64 format env code-pages mule<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">custom widget hashtable-print-r=
eadable backquote threads w32notify w32<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">lcms2 multi-tty make-network-pr=
ocess emacs)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Memory information:<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">((conses 16 100510 8583)<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">(symbols 48 10963 1)<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">(strings 32 33640 2227)<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">(string-bytes 1 1011136)<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">(vectors 16 16807)<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">(vector-slots 8 206002 13918)<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"></span>(floats 8 44 213)<o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(intervals 56 279 0)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(buffers 1000 15))<o:p></o:p></p>
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Full text available.bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:bug#47455; Package emacs.
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