GNU logs - #47911, boring messages


Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#47911: Package outputs should be described in the UI
Resent-From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:39:02 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.47911.B.16189403265991 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: report 47911
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16189403265991
          (code B ref -1); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:39:02 +0000
Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2021 17:38:46 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55882 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lYuKj-0001YZ-T2
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:38:46 -0400
Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:50402)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <leo@HIDDEN>) id 1lYuKi-0001YR-DO
 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:38:44 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53116)
 by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <leo@HIDDEN>) id 1lYuKc-0000XB-Fo
 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:38:39 -0400
Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:42279)
 by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <leo@HIDDEN>) id 1lYuKZ-0005FX-Fy
 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:38:38 -0400
Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41])
 by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C615C026A;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:38:33 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163])
 by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:38:33 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name;
 h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=
 mesmtp; bh=1LtQ0C17uKVMeIyWOpOCtBza9Rk+X/XzckkxQWJ7g4U=; b=1cPel
 ipN4dQJaoBQnZlIBOmh5GXWUvYsVSLWEQolJKhCa/ihzSn3KOP2Z2bUkv6q0jbdX
 e96dReQiGiTQB2HhshAwfJ2bS7Abj7N16kzZPj0J5FhTEd6m3XNDV2DodW1xAwTs
 qdZwG+eGla3kTuLDeN+FInWE+5hQYAVwiC7Pzk=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=
 messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id
 :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender
 :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=1LtQ0C17uKVMeIyWOpOCtBza9Rk+X
 /XzckkxQWJ7g4U=; b=Nx3SCrfvVQlOSYNYzEGF5UqRiE9mo9Tte84Yw06cCLP6x
 snY9GN0eOOdqCMMycdfTAzJxufefxK3gq6GmlNr/GeyXySpBHVKvNIJ8U935oZo5
 +gAD3dSBYiymnfije3qCRoUuqL1PP5yD20Lm53OUkKmcxp7n/Ow78XfHMAM/5vhS
 +HBou7m+wSS1yyBPOrqvTs7N8qImeMts6Sx9yjybB1vV9FFdosy4u3KxKxG0Ca5y
 eb8INtlQalj2d/XQAOHd9TgmGKjiKxpgOsu6jrMglqWXKmG0XOahpmUgvBn9z7TE
 7s9iFPHjd2sR1GhzMRPrB1aF0+7WePbnJ7ppkIu/A==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:mBF_YNhR8v8t_9q99_YNy89PY9R83wtkGzkEqJjVXDc_5BWEm_bMHQ>
 <xme:mBF_YP8wDsl2UHB9F92o658gALal5rhiKzTpOJcF13eQLQhUg6yj34GkMHjFc8FKS
 kuDiJnF-Ga0dtuX_g>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrvddtiedguddujecutefuodetggdotefrod
 ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh
 necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffukfggtggusehttdertd
 dttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefnvghoucfhrghmuhhlrghrihcuoehlvghosehfrghmuhhlrghr
 ihdrnhgrmhgvqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefgtdekvefhteetleejgfffvddtieekve
 eugfduvedtfffhiedvkeefhefgvdetudenucffohhmrghinhepghhithdqshgtmhdrtgho
 mhenucfkphepuddttddruddurdduieelrdduudeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd
 enucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheplhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgrrhhirdhnrghmvg
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:mBF_YPY3lZ-3Gc2G0UPtfiF8ojfmD0JjbeMAp44UJkSxJ9TzMUucgQ>
 <xmx:mBF_YG0yWzayMxXj2NlMP-608JXZmbHYFW--__72p5PK_dou7ScD6A>
 <xmx:mBF_YCbWi_rfX2dcIr-WpJz2xX-y3Ecz6BDIEYXSXU-ZiOL5z1K6og>
 <xmx:mRF_YAsodGk_4xXDj1T8t9hkN-XLzYQIwnuaGevOclQTU51L1xit9A>
Received: from localhost (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net
 [100.11.169.118])
 by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DD0931080068
 for <bug-guix@HIDDEN>; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:38:32 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:38:31 -0400
From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Message-ID: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.111.4.27; envelope-from=leo@HIDDEN;
 helo=out3-smtp.messagingengine.com
X-Spam_score_int: -27
X-Spam_score: -2.8
X-Spam_bar: --
X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,
 DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1,
 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001,
 SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
X-Spam_action: no action
X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--)

At least once a month I have to help somebody on IRC who didn't notice
that our Git package is split into multiple outputs.

They can't find `git send-email`, and the Guix package UI doesn't make
this clear enough.

I had the idea that package outputs besides 'out' and 'debug' should
have very brief descriptions that are exposed in `guix show` and `guix
search` and the `guix package` equivalents.

So, maybe it would look like this:

------
$ guix show git
name: git
version: 2.31.1
outputs: out send-email svn credential-netrc credential-libsecret subtree gui
  * send-email: Tools for an email-based Git workflow
  * svn: Provides git-svn, for bidirectional operation between Subversion and Git repositories
  * credential-libsecret: Whatever that is
  * subtree: Who knows?
  * gui: A graphical interface for exploring a Git repository
  * etc...
systems: x86_64-linux i686-linux
dependencies: asciidoc-py3@HIDDEN bash-minimal@HIDDEN bash@HIDDEN curl@HIDDEN docbook-xsl@HIDDEN expat@HIDDEN gettext-minimal@HIDDEN glib@HIDDEN libsecret@HIDDEN openssl@HIDDEN pcre2@HIDDEN
+ perl-authen-sasl@HIDDEN perl-cgi@HIDDEN perl-io-socket-ssl@HIDDEN perl-net-smtp-ssl@HIDDEN perl-term-readkey@HIDDEN perl@HIDDEN pkg-config@HIDDEN python@HIDDEN subversion@HIDDEN tcl@HIDDEN tk@HIDDEN
+ xmlto@HIDDEN zlib@HIDDEN
location: gnu/packages/version-control.scm:173:2
homepage: https://git-scm.com/
license: GPL 2
synopsis: Distributed version control system  
description: Git is a free distributed version control system designed to handle everything from small to very large projects with speed and efficiency.
------

The output of `guix show` and `guix search` are in recutils format, and
we'd need to make sure that these new UI elements continued that
valuable tradition.




Message sent:


Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
From: help-debbugs@HIDDEN (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Subject: bug#47911: Acknowledgement (Package outputs should be described
 in the UI)
Message-ID: <handler.47911.B.16189403265991.ack <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
References: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN>
X-Gnu-PR-Message: ack 47911
X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix
Reply-To: 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:39:02 +0000

Thank you for filing a new bug report with debbugs.gnu.org.

This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message
has been received.

Your message is being forwarded to the package maintainers and other
interested parties for their attention; they will reply in due course.

Your message has been sent to the package maintainer(s):
 bug-guix@HIDDEN

If you wish to submit further information on this problem, please
send it to 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.

Please do not send mail to help-debbugs@HIDDEN unless you wish
to report a problem with the Bug-tracking system.

--=20
47911: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D47911
GNU Bug Tracking System
Contact help-debbugs@HIDDEN with problems


Message received at control <at> debbugs.gnu.org:


Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2021 17:39:50 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 20 13:39:50 2021
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55890 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lYuLm-0001aj-Km
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:39:50 -0400
Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:60483)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <leo@HIDDEN>) id 1lYuLk-0001aU-UW
 for control <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:39:49 -0400
Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43])
 by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDDC5C0262;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:39:42 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163])
 by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:39:42 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name;
 h=date:from:to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=mesmtp;
 bh=s9qrUt4S7Mf1zfLTTLpwT/I1jdNeZn8Vtlum6ngqHMA=; b=qAuFdEKY/xe7
 dB5W/G8e8JJdcKTD02Hk05tgTPsH3WFT7BqHMg3sLkdHaUCU1d5jBtmEkjcfVk19
 3iZvMRb+MbKCjbWEAyGWvSgjmTjY+EhP5RgxEGPcylnO8237VBXkrDY8AcySrbO7
 sjAIJe/sZT+SeXTiUseLMmlIOTqvwfw=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=
 messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id
 :mime-version:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender
 :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=s9qrUt4S7Mf1zfLTTLpwT/I1jdNeZn8Vtlum6ngqH
 MA=; b=uIiOLcOqrXJfIQhPCI0q/dOgfxULbaWrjYFtes/+j6VttjqTJcbjxXaQD
 1DKh/AJWRn6Vijy2fmzw6zbBYihfdhvCIGFgS1n/iZ5qFNH5Zh0J8eTuKxMU+mSr
 PvpaqJAsTgjDDZVK+sZBuXEWchQqXSqTDdlTnxxWDNu9o3+E+lioM40BNV4v82nL
 FJoEPps/EK4VhIf0VAzuG52gIDrDxswQUOkYOwjYZhuR2FthH+AUcYpYUENfRwFP
 wQEzvN5bWPOCVUN8gJoA0IIteXPBP5JSc4g3mya6fN2fzCfk5UxGeIpV+/Pps+rK
 +w0o0P1w2aTh+hwO3IbtzEZ2fhv8w==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:3hF_YHP-TrbDtSEk_yO94HaiUjjSSK5pU2vrl6ScnefQlHnvfPShMA>
 <xme:3hF_YP7wejr66xmYHUB9wxASPY81eZh2YdJC4sOihTXHfvEkvfYLSWYV_PAtU1FQq
 lB6yFmii5L9lxvdLA>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrvddtiedguddukecutefuodetggdotefrod
 ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh
 necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecugfhmphhthicushhusghjvggtthculddutddmne
 cujfgurhepfffhvffkgggtugesthdtredttddtvdenucfhrhhomhepnfgvohcuhfgrmhhu
 lhgrrhhiuceolhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgrrhhirdhnrghmvgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnh
 ephfejiefgfeevvdefteehgeeltdekvedutdegtdduieetheetgedvfeffudfffeffnecu
 kfhppedutddtrdduuddrudeiledruddukeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurf
 grrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehlvghosehfrghmuhhlrghrihdrnhgrmhgv
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:3hF_YIkRdsDna6-fbiUTfCu89CiK2g_-2Bqc6SVfHj2Xu1pQujxkpA>
 <xmx:3hF_YAToFUfWzBgTPxuDQ3liI0pdaIDl1-DILC_cCQPVuZZrNv4hOg>
 <xmx:3hF_YHHRZDJyyRk7PIyff4DQvG-Fb9c0hKmpoMAOJxO_uquvlQ4qEw>
 <xmx:3hF_YAatAbK3Lg6YU-VZjUHbXD20d8VV8DRTMKj_UY2y9_mztl9BQA>
Received: from localhost (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net
 [100.11.169.118])
 by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9980F1080066
 for <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:39:42 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:39:41 -0400
From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
To: control <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Message-ID: <YH8R3UbDgE3nB6lq@HIDDEN>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+)
X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org",
 has NOT identified this incoming email as spam.  The original
 message has been attached to this so you can view it or label
 similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
 the administrator of that system for details.
 Content preview:  severity 47911 wishlist 
 Content analysis details:   (1.3 points, 10.0 required)
 pts rule name              description
 ---- ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------
 -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW      RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/,
 low trust [66.111.4.27 listed in list.dnswl.org]
 -0.0 SPF_PASS               SPF: sender matches SPF record
 -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS          SPF: HELO matches SPF record
 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4      RBL: Very Good reputation (+4)
 [66.111.4.27 listed in wl.mailspike.net]
 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL      Mailspike good senders
 1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT        Missing Subject: header
 0.2 NO_SUBJECT             Extra score for no subject
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/)

severity 47911 wishlist




Message received at control <at> debbugs.gnu.org:


Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2021 17:41:41 +0000
From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 20 13:41:41 2021
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55898 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lYuNZ-0001eb-0R
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:41:41 -0400
Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:41291)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <leo@HIDDEN>) id 1lYuNX-0001eP-6X
 for control <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:41:39 -0400
Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43])
 by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A32C5C00DA;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:41:34 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163])
 by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:41:34 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name;
 h=date:from:to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=mesmtp;
 bh=4rZfVNcKm7txq3t5S0dso5en2g46r1f0r/XB88AKhiA=; b=rwi2XZc7cpvu
 QtCRY5QAToOOd1ncTclixJ2qEjOWEFK9r7Yuvb3S5IU7+be7Q3fLrIEfctdsdGHZ
 ZlnwvSvWcsBEjeDtpOpJIP0jDb0NhID9DgXmtf5UkN76TKavKALlzLtcvtXs/+aD
 TIlYXUZNdBk7J5gmxvbqSrU4wY4Zh1g=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=
 messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id
 :mime-version:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender
 :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=4rZfVNcKm7txq3t5S0dso5en2g46r1f0r/XB88AKh
 iA=; b=b5hntBU6zq+zghToJmL3hjv7yi4/jZjR8LLoxiiI3RKmiuY1oDUDcwdn8
 af8u+woTFgWQzqXAHxjxhWRdxMU1z1t9VoFuSUzbkHJbvmT0eVEk+eoqwREKqJPS
 UXGn+h0MWvJoi6UE64anCfNJtgpTQgRorJU4+GF/9j83tMUA/bfqjPwdV+R25b0L
 +owmmHFvCEqsvwefnFCs5c0AzNSgl7Ixm1xPOmUzqN4F6gdJQRsnQYJ48gr+l3R1
 Y+npfHavWlNDyzYo3EKKL3m7FnN1FHOeTdxaqa3XrUpcgPIv1dRGmPoRYouSISym
 193x2JaFX7WqDilRCGLPM33r+ZWLg==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:TRJ_YFh1Ql0CCoJLu5qub2R6Kzeging7IIMuQJjJUkoAFppY6QDXyw>
 <xme:TRJ_YKAizy910x9PFZgn1gjJOsF_DqSOsW9SQdq92MQHYwQPR2jfZPh5DPmOvgEBO
 _VXG1yj5QEDqPD5EA>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrvddtiedguddukecutefuodetggdotefrod
 ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh
 necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecugfhmphhthicushhusghjvggtthculddutddmne
 cujfgurhepfffhvffkgggtugesthdtredttddtvdenucfhrhhomhepnfgvohcuhfgrmhhu
 lhgrrhhiuceolhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgrrhhirdhnrghmvgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnh
 ephfejiefgfeevvdefteehgeeltdekvedutdegtdduieetheetgedvfeffudfffeffnecu
 kfhppedutddtrdduuddrudeiledruddukeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedunecurf
 grrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehlvghosehfrghmuhhlrghrihdrnhgrmhgv
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:TRJ_YFHWLRczvealFb9zCjCJw_6KmDRTeuz_RQSBa7txD7gqH7sFOA>
 <xmx:TRJ_YKRyoCKofedlHEhP26cwozvQ6UMjkD62drNrqyQyZAT0qUPqrg>
 <xmx:TRJ_YCzswwjLRnxXcJ_8oi_Q-bz7n9BGx5Q5VbkwOdKnehZCXpZ0vg>
 <xmx:ThJ_YB8ze3a45L4VLceIawZPaxmwh11bFUhnP58fbA9y7O_pzbmIeg>
Received: from localhost (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net
 [100.11.169.118])
 by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 358BB1080064
 for <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:41:33 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:41:31 -0400
From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
To: GNU Debbugs <control <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Message-ID: <YH8SS/ncqqi9u0uZ@HIDDEN>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+)
X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org",
 has NOT identified this incoming email as spam.  The original
 message has been attached to this so you can view it or label
 similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
 the administrator of that system for details.
 Content preview:  retitle 47911 Improving the package outputs UI 
 Content analysis details:   (1.3 points, 10.0 required)
 pts rule name              description
 ---- ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------
 -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW      RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/,
 low trust [66.111.4.27 listed in list.dnswl.org]
 -0.0 SPF_PASS               SPF: sender matches SPF record
 -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS          SPF: HELO matches SPF record
 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4      RBL: Very Good reputation (+4)
 [66.111.4.27 listed in wl.mailspike.net]
 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL      Mailspike good senders
 1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT        Missing Subject: header
 0.2 NO_SUBJECT             Extra score for no subject
X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/)

retitle 47911 Improving the package outputs UI




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#47911: Improving the package outputs UI
References: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN>
In-Reply-To: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN>
Resent-From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:44:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.47911.B47911.16189406406590 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47911
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by 47911-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B47911.16189406406590
          (code B ref 47911); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:44:01 +0000
Received: (at 47911) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2021 17:44:00 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55904 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lYuPo-0001iD-Fh
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:44:00 -0400
Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:59605)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <leo@HIDDEN>) id 1lYuPm-0001i1-Ux
 for 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:43:59 -0400
Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46])
 by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30235C01DB;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:43:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163])
 by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:43:53 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name;
 h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=
 mesmtp; bh=u9yBxB/AiSCvOu0muwu6fYLw5HU5oI5KgTIqFnJQINM=; b=DANFd
 8V/ar7moOoyBhdYnM3XPbaKO1jOU6IolFrlXa/EDqswSt0G0mQNhd93Cs6aqRl8f
 T4jlc9JARXcfVer2LlFkNnzZnQuqNRiiL9s+Jmjf4XkYiPrYP62fyy9qCNgTYWje
 E3lqX/zRElt15796gc2J9ho9Pbsw+6yFV6UUac=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=
 messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id
 :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender
 :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=u9yBxB/AiSCvOu0muwu6fYLw5HU5o
 I5KgTIqFnJQINM=; b=HIf2ZX+YczwG8y9mh6fooqzUE/Gn2IToHGLJpKzW6m3Ob
 UzzDtvYAJ+Zd8zEbl8kvgieNW5px49Q5MHorQ9Jvq1lGjNsBdlar5Oi01E0WHfwb
 4AUmvOxmMI5WsEAIaeigtAb22nFAZ78o3i+wST7QfSAYUQnIdocG5D1m/7OkXf3Q
 Ibbz4MKpu9azTilyeZ8rONl00JhboLOzIvjotmSeRAjWwoicLf/HH3EgJMTvDt/u
 ifsxue11zIY90peW31bIAKif6PaU5FfcwmytUtL8R9EybB8v5YMwrdOj2YiZaZNd
 cN+8OzoD6MMTGHG1ZUrtFtJuBpEyYg6qFzqVEGsHA==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:2RJ_YKpGof6F7eeXAHYZxguenEJOSKqQTKQnmTYNAA0a9KULNpgE_g>
 <xme:2RJ_YMUTUdhGQu0mGUDN2xsOjVniZWiHWb0_VYHSN7wadBh38-gbeY4xnxmYc8MiO
 SGnXMqsHU0cJYW-vw>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrvddtiedguddukecutefuodetggdotefrod
 ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh
 necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffukfggtggusehttdertd
 dttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefnvghoucfhrghmuhhlrghrihcuoehlvghosehfrghmuhhlrghr
 ihdrnhgrmhgvqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeuieduieejudffvdfhjedvgedvhefggf
 ejvdevkeeffeelfeekueeijeduveetudenucffohhmrghinhepghhnuhdrohhrghenucfk
 phepuddttddruddurdduieelrdduudeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrg
 hrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheplhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgrrhhirdhnrghmvg
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:2RJ_YJDDp0pVxCh5Sudp6vqucMIUTqwbR8DQ6tn3LR1_cjNu9DOGgA>
 <xmx:2RJ_YA0Uz4_RJtyrUvkNzv-FlwwVGK4Yvl_NxOSNOCVDICk7_GhUfQ>
 <xmx:2RJ_YL0GoW-hJwXzXTKrmuXpaFpjMkvOby2jd9N2iuNi0OKLDa8tRw>
 <xmx:2RJ_YLvK-DqqNB8DjYh86SSmmJafnNTTlCX8EGovWMLQW3V4lRtn2Q>
Received: from localhost (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net
 [100.11.169.118])
 by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6CD3D108005B
 for <47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:43:53 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 13:43:52 -0400
From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Message-ID: <YH8S2EQa/xaqrR6u@HIDDEN>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-)

Another idea I had is to make Guix accept the concatenation of
packagename-output in the UI.

For example, `guix install git-send-email`, instead of `git:send-email`.

But maybe that is going too far, I'm not sure.

By the way, the #guix IRC discussion was here

https://logs.guix.gnu.org/guix/2021-03-11.log#194558




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#47911: Package outputs should be described in the UI
Resent-From: Bone Baboon <bone.baboon@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 19:44:02 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.47911.B.161894781526355 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47911
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Cc: 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-guix@HIDDEN, 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.161894781526355
          (code B ref -1); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 19:44:02 +0000
Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2021 19:43:35 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56074 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lYwHX-0006r1-7V
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:43:35 -0400
Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:59374)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <bone.baboon@HIDDEN>) id 1lYwHW-0006qt-4x
 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:43:34 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53328)
 by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <bone.baboon@HIDDEN>)
 id 1lYwHS-0008Q5-LQ
 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:43:30 -0400
Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:44638)
 by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <bone.baboon@HIDDEN>)
 id 1lYwHQ-0006Vd-E6
 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:43:29 -0400
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF3E52D81;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 21:43:24 +0200 (CEST)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org
Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with UTF8SMTP id 3OrXVEb-uV6v; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 21:43:23 +0200 (CEST)
References: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN>
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail;
 t=1618947798; bh=AdvAsTEhj9jwBTgYiUZh1hEfpLKrMxREV88qg5YeU9U=;
 h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date;
 b=RRBPguCSDCbhcB+x8QS+K4j2svmSIpy12kNzVlC9njcoMAoRRLYDoGKJJCldc5TAL
 aDNi8YEOfRxrh+W2IdgCkso/G6k8vdb/QlrZO9gG5YLEZ9LE96RUfs1DFy1IWYj90a
 WwzhxJRCTz3N8ZT/5kqOJyYpgk5TzHmGYBQTLI4V5TLTrH2yKBOfPhzEUOFLI7IJX7
 CBkH9p/MolqQMcKaoqPa66/xjCU71GXQMVkZ+DoYKFhs9JHLpCPkmJDyXC4yD5GBg1
 S8paMZ36ubdnTFF+TDGD6wSLuvmDgndmwY3eBRXAp+8c/DwAiNhMUgyd/4wubOJ6O/
 gGJvCQZUOOsyg==
From: Bone Baboon <bone.baboon@HIDDEN>
In-reply-to: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:42:17 -0400
Message-ID: <875z0grbdy.fsf@HIDDEN>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.21.23.139;
 envelope-from=bone.baboon@HIDDEN; helo=knopi.disroot.org
X-Spam_score_int: -20
X-Spam_score: -2.1
X-Spam_bar: --
X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,
 DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001,
 SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
X-Spam_action: no action
X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--)

Leo Famulari writes:

> At least once a month I have to help somebody on IRC who didn't notice
> that our Git package is split into multiple outputs.
>
> They can't find `git send-email`, and the Guix package UI doesn't make
> this clear enough.
>
> I had the idea that package outputs besides 'out' and 'debug' should
> have very brief descriptions that are exposed in `guix show` and `guix
> search` and the `guix package` equivalents.

I ran into this issue when I started using Guix.

I like this idea.




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#47911: Package outputs should be described in the UI
Resent-From: Bone Baboon <bone.baboon@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 19:44:02 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.47911.B47911.161894780826334 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47911
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Cc: 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-guix@HIDDEN, 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by 47911-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B47911.161894780826334
          (code B ref 47911); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 19:44:02 +0000
Received: (at 47911) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2021 19:43:28 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56071 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lYwHQ-0006qg-0J
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:43:28 -0400
Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:35500)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <bone.baboon@HIDDEN>) id 1lYwHO-0006qX-2L
 for 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:43:26 -0400
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF3E52D81;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 21:43:24 +0200 (CEST)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org
Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with UTF8SMTP id 3OrXVEb-uV6v; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 21:43:23 +0200 (CEST)
References: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN>
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail;
 t=1618947798; bh=AdvAsTEhj9jwBTgYiUZh1hEfpLKrMxREV88qg5YeU9U=;
 h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date;
 b=RRBPguCSDCbhcB+x8QS+K4j2svmSIpy12kNzVlC9njcoMAoRRLYDoGKJJCldc5TAL
 aDNi8YEOfRxrh+W2IdgCkso/G6k8vdb/QlrZO9gG5YLEZ9LE96RUfs1DFy1IWYj90a
 WwzhxJRCTz3N8ZT/5kqOJyYpgk5TzHmGYBQTLI4V5TLTrH2yKBOfPhzEUOFLI7IJX7
 CBkH9p/MolqQMcKaoqPa66/xjCU71GXQMVkZ+DoYKFhs9JHLpCPkmJDyXC4yD5GBg1
 S8paMZ36ubdnTFF+TDGD6wSLuvmDgndmwY3eBRXAp+8c/DwAiNhMUgyd/4wubOJ6O/
 gGJvCQZUOOsyg==
From: Bone Baboon <bone.baboon@HIDDEN>
In-reply-to: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 15:42:17 -0400
Message-ID: <875z0grbdy.fsf@HIDDEN>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-)

Leo Famulari writes:

> At least once a month I have to help somebody on IRC who didn't notice
> that our Git package is split into multiple outputs.
>
> They can't find `git send-email`, and the Guix package UI doesn't make
> this clear enough.
>
> I had the idea that package outputs besides 'out' and 'debug' should
> have very brief descriptions that are exposed in `guix show` and `guix
> search` and the `guix package` equivalents.

I ran into this issue when I started using Guix.

I like this idea.




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#47911: Package outputs should be described in the UI
Resent-From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 21:55:02 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.47911.B47911.161895568122964 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47911
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Cc: 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by 47911-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B47911.161895568122964
          (code B ref 47911); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 21:55:02 +0000
Received: (at 47911) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2021 21:54:41 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56253 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lYyKP-0005yK-GV
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:54:41 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41038)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>) id 1lYyKN-0005y7-FT
 for 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:54:39 -0400
Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43572)
 by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1)
 (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>)
 id 1lYyKG-0002Bw-Ok; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:54:33 -0400
Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=52254 helo=ribbon)
 by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256)
 (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from <ludo@HIDDEN>)
 id 1lYyKG-0001iU-9j; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:54:32 -0400
From: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>
References: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN>
X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/
X-Revolutionary-Date: 1 =?UTF-8?Q?Flor=C3=A9al?= an 229 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?=
X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5
X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc
X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4  0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5
X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 23:54:29 +0200
In-Reply-To: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN> (Leo Famulari's message of "Tue,
 20 Apr 2021 13:38:31 -0400")
Message-ID: <87h7k08vvu.fsf@HIDDEN>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-)

Hi,

Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> skribis:

> At least once a month I have to help somebody on IRC who didn't notice
> that our Git package is split into multiple outputs.
>
> They can't find `git send-email`, and the Guix package UI doesn't make
> this clear enough.

Just a side note: our =E2=80=98git=E2=80=99 package uses outputs in a rathe=
r unusual
way.  There are other packages that provide different features in
different outputs, but the majority of multiple-output packages have the
=E2=80=9Cstandard=E2=80=9D outputs: =E2=80=9Cdoc=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cbin=E2=
=80=9D, =E2=80=9Clib=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cdebug=E2=80=9D.

So maybe we could look at the =E2=80=98git=E2=80=99 package (can it be spli=
t into
several packages? would that help?) in addition to the UI, and also make
sure the UI is optimized for the most frequent cases.

Ludo=E2=80=99.




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#47911: Improving the package outputs UI
Resent-From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:05:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.47911.B.161895627523939 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47911
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Cc: 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-guix@HIDDEN, 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.161895627523939
          (code B ref -1); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:05:01 +0000
Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2021 22:04:35 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56267 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lYyTy-0006E3-Tr
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:04:35 -0400
Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:57868)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <me@HIDDEN>) id 1lYyTx-0006Dw-TL
 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:04:34 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55994)
 by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <me@HIDDEN>) id 1lYyTx-0005R8-OF
 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:04:33 -0400
Received: from tobias.gr ([2a02:c205:2020:6054::1]:42112)
 by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <me@HIDDEN>) id 1lYyTv-0008JO-Ki
 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:04:33 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tobias.gr; s=2018;
 bh=i3IvehPOvqsjdRx83jizb73z+QqgmpYfQzMbmpmvbTA=; h=date:in-reply-to:
 subject:cc:to:from:references; b=FsmT+Ol3i9OgIAMGUG6k7s494thaTlky+vz/B
 fI4lz8ufY5BtuAdM47GibebbeAwzW6+N7cgS8sayVFKSX+hlAXbtvAAPtsbQRSwTs7cpO7
 hI5Xs/LEQ33KTmHAcVfeFhyDxUmnfSXzulZTrnhmclltJ9kZmNgcXSQgiHq8Fb342TePdT
 otNZMdO+w+S2v3+bp0EpuwsftVKSTh9mteMGxXs3VfmlRzWoWvNWlY8gUp49k1trjAFcV9
 n+MuGIFJPegMBBg6yzvE9D67XWoc3bcV8eB6LUlWJqUsEJfP96THLeBa1id7DLqIq0fzg8
 BsGWgCKOx2okh5gRwiJf+VVDA==
Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 67a008db
 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); 
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:04:32 +0000 (UTC)
References: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN> <YH8S2EQa/xaqrR6u@HIDDEN>
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@HIDDEN>
In-reply-to: <YH8S2EQa/xaqrR6u@HIDDEN>
BIMI-Selector: v=BIMI1; s=default;
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:05:05 +0200
Message-ID: <87zgxslii6.fsf@nckx>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-=";
 micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"
Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:c205:2020:6054::1; envelope-from=me@HIDDEN;
 helo=tobias.gr
X-Spam_score_int: -20
X-Spam_score: -2.1
X-Spam_bar: --
X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,
 DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001,
 SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
X-Spam_action: no action
X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--)

--=-=-=
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Leo Famulari writes:
> Another idea I had is to make Guix accept the concatenation of
> packagename-output in the UI.

I'm firmly against this (but read on :-)

>
> For example, `guix install git-send-email`, instead of=20
> `git:send-email`.
>
> But maybe that is going too far, I'm not sure.

I think it is, but the intention is good.

Instead, Guix could suggest (=E2=80=98did you mean...?=E2=80=99) like it do=
es for=20
commands.

  ~ =CE=BB guix install git-send-email
  guix install: error: git-send-email: unknown package
  hint: Did you mean one of:
  git:send-email

Kind regards,

T G-R

--=-=-=
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----

iIMEARYKACsWIQT12iAyS4c9C3o4dnINsP+IT1VteQUCYH9QEQ0cbWVAdG9iaWFz
LmdyAAoJEA2w/4hPVW15rqIBAIPVMIxWFpKcX1V7lWIJQ9nZI0roC5Nn7BBZiFLq
gmCbAP0UlG+3rQouSJfdmCD4G02BUBvi4w2N471io5eBBk4UCA==
=dV6G
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--=-=-=--




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#47911: Improving the package outputs UI
Resent-From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:05:02 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.47911.B47911.161895627123922 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47911
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Cc: 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-guix@HIDDEN, 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by 47911-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B47911.161895627123922
          (code B ref 47911); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:05:02 +0000
Received: (at 47911) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2021 22:04:31 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56263 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lYyTv-0006Dm-M8
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:04:31 -0400
Received: from tobias.gr ([80.241.217.52]:39642)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <me@HIDDEN>) id 1lYyTu-0006De-GR
 for 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 18:04:31 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tobias.gr; s=2018;
 bh=i3IvehPOvqsjdRx83jizb73z+QqgmpYfQzMbmpmvbTA=; h=date:in-reply-to:
 subject:cc:to:from:references; b=FsmT+Ol3i9OgIAMGUG6k7s494thaTlky+vz/B
 fI4lz8ufY5BtuAdM47GibebbeAwzW6+N7cgS8sayVFKSX+hlAXbtvAAPtsbQRSwTs7cpO7
 hI5Xs/LEQ33KTmHAcVfeFhyDxUmnfSXzulZTrnhmclltJ9kZmNgcXSQgiHq8Fb342TePdT
 otNZMdO+w+S2v3+bp0EpuwsftVKSTh9mteMGxXs3VfmlRzWoWvNWlY8gUp49k1trjAFcV9
 n+MuGIFJPegMBBg6yzvE9D67XWoc3bcV8eB6LUlWJqUsEJfP96THLeBa1id7DLqIq0fzg8
 BsGWgCKOx2okh5gRwiJf+VVDA==
Received: by submission.tobias.gr (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 67a008db
 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); 
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:04:32 +0000 (UTC)
References: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN> <YH8S2EQa/xaqrR6u@HIDDEN>
From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@HIDDEN>
In-reply-to: <YH8S2EQa/xaqrR6u@HIDDEN>
BIMI-Selector: v=BIMI1; s=default;
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:05:05 +0200
Message-ID: <87zgxslii6.fsf@nckx>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-=";
 micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"
X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---)

--=-=-=
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Leo Famulari writes:
> Another idea I had is to make Guix accept the concatenation of
> packagename-output in the UI.

I'm firmly against this (but read on :-)

>
> For example, `guix install git-send-email`, instead of=20
> `git:send-email`.
>
> But maybe that is going too far, I'm not sure.

I think it is, but the intention is good.

Instead, Guix could suggest (=E2=80=98did you mean...?=E2=80=99) like it do=
es for=20
commands.

  ~ =CE=BB guix install git-send-email
  guix install: error: git-send-email: unknown package
  hint: Did you mean one of:
  git:send-email

Kind regards,

T G-R

--=-=-=
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----

iIMEARYKACsWIQT12iAyS4c9C3o4dnINsP+IT1VteQUCYH9QEQ0cbWVAdG9iaWFz
LmdyAAoJEA2w/4hPVW15rqIBAIPVMIxWFpKcX1V7lWIJQ9nZI0roC5Nn7BBZiFLq
gmCbAP0UlG+3rQouSJfdmCD4G02BUBvi4w2N471io5eBBk4UCA==
=dV6G
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--=-=-=--




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#47911: Improving the package outputs UI
Resent-From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:54:02 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.47911.B.161896638224594 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47911
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@HIDDEN>
Cc: 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-guix@HIDDEN, 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B.161896638224594
          (code B ref -1); Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:54:02 +0000
Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2021 00:53:02 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56447 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lZ16z-0006OT-Ko
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:53:01 -0400
Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37706)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <leo@HIDDEN>) id 1lZ16x-0006OG-VL
 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:53:00 -0400
Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59690)
 by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <leo@HIDDEN>) id 1lZ16x-0004oQ-MW
 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:52:59 -0400
Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:43735)
 by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256)
 (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <leo@HIDDEN>) id 1lZ16v-00057y-MP
 for bug-guix@HIDDEN; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:52:59 -0400
Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43])
 by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF30A5C0190;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:52:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163])
 by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:52:53 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name;
 h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version
 :content-type:in-reply-to; s=mesmtp; bh=JKEjuBS/ns6gSf3L8+GRKYOI
 n5LEO5AVDzn0P0zw3D0=; b=HL28q4yxwDwFC6vV3/97G4AeEN++AnogxGLbM1JQ
 I/sMs1ytUSTWW5BwVvBPYxkIYt2FLsfWYQKTufsOVPQMuHGWWhhUsdw2EAP0eprj
 pMyoXKr8LySpR/KHg3Qaszy9jsCjlc96642mkE91Cj7A4UfJFNd6DtcTmfBVihtO
 lfE=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=
 messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to
 :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy
 :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=JKEjuB
 S/ns6gSf3L8+GRKYOIn5LEO5AVDzn0P0zw3D0=; b=loIRER5xjrNI2Xxjumo4lJ
 unZvmj2snO+1+Q1dX5BDc0xEtTKEgfWYy1TmzfhSBaTD+sG9snqoedVKp7xaeSJ5
 MP9xIqqKicu+PYPGuUrn6Doj6kZSS4DBzf7tPKKEGaNru9bQE9HmVhQIiDXmxItq
 BfjzzVuigQH98dT7ZKo3+7aSr55Ng5vG8DohEfxKZoRAxNzc1WiTKZOFMHpGht9d
 OEC+yIe/1h1lPifyVwhpffHLV6/rinS/r5YxE4Fb1FWCBYjO667jaRRbY67T3Q2F
 90iDlAt9W6bZJiYW0Wi0SBFPFzfAigaCkonTvaA2kF1LjjiT+eWq/CTvKvHDC4vw
 ==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:ZXd_YJOKfF2BHmTXmthf9uyUs0DJ-EDM9KIGZIb7-T3x7-bwFq5wHQ>
 <xme:ZXd_YL8uATSq23honJkKRHoUXia5pHGm1NXTl3bs249DUU2Ccy5zd2hZ6An8LzU_-
 l8ioOKNjuOW1Sfwrg>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrvddtjedgfeekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf
 fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen
 uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtre
 ertddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnfgvohcuhfgrmhhulhgrrhhiuceolhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgr
 rhhirdhnrghmvgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepiefghfeffedtffekveektddtieekfe
 ffledtgfevkeekteeufedtfefhgefhkeefnecukfhppedutddtrdduuddrudeiledruddu
 keenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehlvg
 hosehfrghmuhhlrghrihdrnhgrmhgv
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:ZXd_YITZ9OUSzi_muLcmPI__whArRhA67aNTOcgeGGEvWiSpxVKibA>
 <xmx:ZXd_YFuhQCda2U4mt7S_gzLhAh1u9m9jSafQgPiLET2nAq41xFk1PA>
 <xmx:ZXd_YBc6pK1KjpamXnP6MansaBPNnCZXh42rc4QsWIPEVxqcgwQoVA>
 <xmx:ZXd_YBkjCkwmT2JTNReBSGX5nKKyd4H82_YORgZp-TW8iOEQ9wN7TQ>
Received: from localhost (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net
 [100.11.169.118])
 by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EBDA61080057;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:52:52 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:52:51 -0400
From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Message-ID: <YH93Y0gqIO4yoF9I@HIDDEN>
References: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN> <YH8S2EQa/xaqrR6u@HIDDEN>
 <87zgxslii6.fsf@nckx>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256;
 protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9vR19bcra4Xd/02Y"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <87zgxslii6.fsf@nckx>
Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.111.4.26; envelope-from=leo@HIDDEN;
 helo=out2-smtp.messagingengine.com
X-Spam_score_int: -27
X-Spam_score: -2.8
X-Spam_bar: --
X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1,
 DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1,
 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001,
 SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
X-Spam_action: no action
X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--)


--9vR19bcra4Xd/02Y
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 12:05:05AM +0200, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote:
> Leo Famulari writes:
> > Another idea I had is to make Guix accept the concatenation of
> > packagename-output in the UI.
>=20
> I'm firmly against this (but read on :-)
>=20
> > For example, `guix install git-send-email`, instead of `git:send-email`.
> >=20
> > But maybe that is going too far, I'm not sure.
>=20
> I think it is, but the intention is good.

It's definitely pie-in-the-sky daydreaming :)

> Instead, Guix could suggest (=E2=80=98did you mean...?=E2=80=99) like it =
does for commands.
>=20
>  ~ =CE=BB guix install git-send-email
>  guix install: error: git-send-email: unknown package
>  hint: Did you mean one of:
>  git:send-email

I think that's a better idea.

--9vR19bcra4Xd/02Y
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----

iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEsFFZSPHn08G5gDigJkb6MLrKfwgFAmB/d18ACgkQJkb6MLrK
fwgYqw//YQ9r3xsp12sEpAPFeRDXaN4yeqn7tphugTq3G6oZcK42cSaHsHo5NGqc
mZYrr2e0cJk29NJUwioW3hCl82TrE4JkozeJz4rIKKaNluQqTQ4hr4jXZuo7XMze
+fRXa4HbMUV5xl7l322kuOVm5K6Gj7QWc0842a/sYzZaHuOwo4CvdkXNV+F59lmZ
tv2GUDt81x0saEuPxUqnxIL0gijDImz/lf69ynsC6WptQZXtETDJQEUqWJF8WeRQ
dv2ElOU8G6MXSW3836RtiswN16uyIFpkGyjqO/iqmC7Joc7205M0oVz+iQcTI6vY
H3SmSJgaiotvcbKzqYcL8T64lUl6h1YrJCJHpgKW5PosE6IvePCSF4zaWo6pq0EN
/jy0bZqfOEOFRtkTK27Dw53e2R2g2qdjlhE858upqaFPd02qRCSkkHFCZsCPeiDR
lSQD/t26JKiADo5rLN30EfuXjLZQTMw8pT8ILLEUPA/+n2XgOBF86M/R/Ecg+Ki5
d/ukRBalWX5jICoq2T/OZnDYuycHTBrkvQ77y6Sy8ORAV1MuYnrRnrjRTB6d6CQF
jfvGceBRG0yj9xJcbeTrllc4EunWboGWY3ObO1BYt06v/chXy8d0D3Q3aObPo2xc
pdU2eewSul6x87j/0fYa7Fj0VIFgaTO+RoEj6xC0BL0KZ3U+oJE=
=1Pzz
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--9vR19bcra4Xd/02Y--




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#47911: Improving the package outputs UI
Resent-From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:54:02 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.47911.B47911.161896638124584 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47911
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@HIDDEN>
Cc: 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-guix@HIDDEN, 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by 47911-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B47911.161896638124584
          (code B ref 47911); Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:54:02 +0000
Received: (at 47911) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2021 00:53:01 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56445 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lZ16z-0006ON-Da
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:53:01 -0400
Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:35829)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <leo@HIDDEN>) id 1lZ16x-0006O4-76
 for 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:52:59 -0400
Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43])
 by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF30A5C0190;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:52:53 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163])
 by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:52:53 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name;
 h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version
 :content-type:in-reply-to; s=mesmtp; bh=JKEjuBS/ns6gSf3L8+GRKYOI
 n5LEO5AVDzn0P0zw3D0=; b=HL28q4yxwDwFC6vV3/97G4AeEN++AnogxGLbM1JQ
 I/sMs1ytUSTWW5BwVvBPYxkIYt2FLsfWYQKTufsOVPQMuHGWWhhUsdw2EAP0eprj
 pMyoXKr8LySpR/KHg3Qaszy9jsCjlc96642mkE91Cj7A4UfJFNd6DtcTmfBVihtO
 lfE=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=
 messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to
 :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy
 :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=JKEjuB
 S/ns6gSf3L8+GRKYOIn5LEO5AVDzn0P0zw3D0=; b=loIRER5xjrNI2Xxjumo4lJ
 unZvmj2snO+1+Q1dX5BDc0xEtTKEgfWYy1TmzfhSBaTD+sG9snqoedVKp7xaeSJ5
 MP9xIqqKicu+PYPGuUrn6Doj6kZSS4DBzf7tPKKEGaNru9bQE9HmVhQIiDXmxItq
 BfjzzVuigQH98dT7ZKo3+7aSr55Ng5vG8DohEfxKZoRAxNzc1WiTKZOFMHpGht9d
 OEC+yIe/1h1lPifyVwhpffHLV6/rinS/r5YxE4Fb1FWCBYjO667jaRRbY67T3Q2F
 90iDlAt9W6bZJiYW0Wi0SBFPFzfAigaCkonTvaA2kF1LjjiT+eWq/CTvKvHDC4vw
 ==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:ZXd_YJOKfF2BHmTXmthf9uyUs0DJ-EDM9KIGZIb7-T3x7-bwFq5wHQ>
 <xme:ZXd_YL8uATSq23honJkKRHoUXia5pHGm1NXTl3bs249DUU2Ccy5zd2hZ6An8LzU_-
 l8ioOKNjuOW1Sfwrg>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrvddtjedgfeekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf
 fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen
 uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtre
 ertddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnfgvohcuhfgrmhhulhgrrhhiuceolhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgr
 rhhirdhnrghmvgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepiefghfeffedtffekveektddtieekfe
 ffledtgfevkeekteeufedtfefhgefhkeefnecukfhppedutddtrdduuddrudeiledruddu
 keenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehlvg
 hosehfrghmuhhlrghrihdrnhgrmhgv
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:ZXd_YITZ9OUSzi_muLcmPI__whArRhA67aNTOcgeGGEvWiSpxVKibA>
 <xmx:ZXd_YFuhQCda2U4mt7S_gzLhAh1u9m9jSafQgPiLET2nAq41xFk1PA>
 <xmx:ZXd_YBc6pK1KjpamXnP6MansaBPNnCZXh42rc4QsWIPEVxqcgwQoVA>
 <xmx:ZXd_YBkjCkwmT2JTNReBSGX5nKKyd4H82_YORgZp-TW8iOEQ9wN7TQ>
Received: from localhost (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net
 [100.11.169.118])
 by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EBDA61080057;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:52:52 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:52:51 -0400
From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Message-ID: <YH93Y0gqIO4yoF9I@HIDDEN>
References: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN> <YH8S2EQa/xaqrR6u@HIDDEN>
 <87zgxslii6.fsf@nckx>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256;
 protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9vR19bcra4Xd/02Y"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <87zgxslii6.fsf@nckx>
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-)


--9vR19bcra4Xd/02Y
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 12:05:05AM +0200, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote:
> Leo Famulari writes:
> > Another idea I had is to make Guix accept the concatenation of
> > packagename-output in the UI.
>=20
> I'm firmly against this (but read on :-)
>=20
> > For example, `guix install git-send-email`, instead of `git:send-email`.
> >=20
> > But maybe that is going too far, I'm not sure.
>=20
> I think it is, but the intention is good.

It's definitely pie-in-the-sky daydreaming :)

> Instead, Guix could suggest (=E2=80=98did you mean...?=E2=80=99) like it =
does for commands.
>=20
>  ~ =CE=BB guix install git-send-email
>  guix install: error: git-send-email: unknown package
>  hint: Did you mean one of:
>  git:send-email

I think that's a better idea.

--9vR19bcra4Xd/02Y
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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=1Pzz
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--9vR19bcra4Xd/02Y--




Message sent to bug-guix@HIDDEN:


X-Loop: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
Subject: bug#47911: Package outputs should be described in the UI
Resent-From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-CC: bug-guix@HIDDEN
Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 01:00:01 +0000
Resent-Message-ID: <handler.47911.B47911.161896675925172 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@HIDDEN
X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47911
X-GNU-PR-Package: guix
X-GNU-PR-Keywords: 
To: Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo@HIDDEN>
Cc: 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Received: via spool by 47911-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org id=B47911.161896675925172
          (code B ref 47911); Wed, 21 Apr 2021 01:00:01 +0000
Received: (at 47911) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2021 00:59:19 +0000
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56461 helo=debbugs.gnu.org)
	by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
	(envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>)
	id 1lZ1D5-0006Xw-1m
	for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:59:19 -0400
Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:36395)
 by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2)
 (envelope-from <leo@HIDDEN>) id 1lZ1D3-0006Xj-96
 for 47911 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:59:17 -0400
Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43])
 by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5F05C0176;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:59:12 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163])
 by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:59:12 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=famulari.name;
 h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version
 :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to; s=mesmtp;
 bh=kyVDhfIYFMsPe7I6UuLlv2uwF7PlUrOS+KQ78vXleuo=; b=aaXTSlxxmILn
 J4QXw4ABFGuo5ygcn+qfIGELxZdDOP7Z+mrbrq92Uhqn3SuWuO+AI45hILygqEMU
 FBn4NnwscDIfhMgwsaIQe5gVSMpK1iWUsSvgp8v9rru8j9XlC1YIX0IUER/m9QW6
 SUVzl1VUcIqcGgi8QWhDf14393Mw+8s=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=
 messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type
 :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references
 :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender
 :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=kyVDhfIYFMsPe7I6UuLlv2uwF7PlUrOS+KQ78vXle
 uo=; b=ELIYAhwQAfbZKfM8V9wJtVDPyTMiRILm7EXiBhWonnRvLP1/YjxFXMYoc
 jiEjmeLvS/e5BEgVkhW3hXqNEZtT/+gdu8MhVRNF+IsRav7zxdtefqKUyLIqjjZX
 0lMpYlrBGcBSCmYmqUJTZrqXgOSbY/6mKMfDGfG3gba0zkFvbjYHqwzkgEMfMRTg
 CPuMsLXfs6i85Rv93s798avbfEfKP8+BchGuMxqZCo0L2COHtlPhOHc2cwJguPbR
 bPkBrXdb78INotH1jS0stjHTvqOMd5zLPb6hAZWiWvWhzRPSD6U619wgkvRcCcfa
 hLE5ztTlAiMyCn88MSWCW+cBONnMw==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:33h_YHf2QqJ4xULRwygxX8JDZzHWRKyOX8BXGUlYg3Ui3gPi7yqMUg>
 <xme:33h_YNP2m--V-dgGOlNBJMIDQYJKPY9BcP30VLpAvhiQ2l9y4FlvWHG3YF72-_D9i
 3zNCMwq5DrcyvydsQ>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrvddtjedggedtucetufdoteggodetrfdotf
 fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen
 uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne
 cujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtugfgjgesthekredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnfgvohcu
 hfgrmhhulhgrrhhiuceolhgvohesfhgrmhhulhgrrhhirdhnrghmvgeqnecuggftrfgrth
 htvghrnhepgfduffettedtkeekudfhgfefgfeifeegueeitedujeffleeiudeuieffgfdu
 gfdunecuffhomhgrihhnpehgnhhurdhorhhgnecukfhppedutddtrdduuddrudeiledrud
 dukeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehl
 vghosehfrghmuhhlrghrihdrnhgrmhgv
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:33h_YAgCDqHEFYhrYHoL5KwXYRwMQsuZzQB9688j2z7TI-But2kQGw>
 <xmx:33h_YI95DT0BuP8X_tLPcQGdsDHPG8S676MinavZKh1OomAS8PSnSQ>
 <xmx:33h_YDsAC2h_xHCNjUUaJbqDbKBVimdyHYfXUu1D5wQBNgUmPojHUw>
 <xmx:4Hh_YA4Rq-pLbLRvklLCg92vvkTtmI3nhQdkoDhIXuDTxtO4gW-5DQ>
Received: from localhost (pool-100-11-169-118.phlapa.fios.verizon.net
 [100.11.169.118])
 by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6B6D0108005C;
 Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:59:11 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 20:59:10 -0400
From: Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN>
Message-ID: <YH943sJUUqP9iW0k@HIDDEN>
References: <YH8Rl4J57UHo87Kg@HIDDEN>
 <87h7k08vvu.fsf@HIDDEN>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In-Reply-To: <87h7k08vvu.fsf@HIDDEN>
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)
X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18
Precedence: list
List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/>
List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, 
 <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-)

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 11:54:29PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Leo Famulari <leo@HIDDEN> skribis:
> > They can't find `git send-email`, and the Guix package UI doesn't make
> > this clear enough.
> 
> Just a side note: our ‘git’ package uses outputs in a rather unusual
> way.

That's true. And I don't have any other packages in mind, really.

I first had this idea after roptat was talking about adding ocaml
bindings for z3 [0]. He wrote:

"it builds the bindings in a separate output, instead of a separate
package, because they're part of the same source, and it doesn't look
like it's possible to build them separately
[...]
I'm just not very happy it's part of the same package, because it's less
discoverable vs ocaml-z3"

So, I do think there is room for improvement to this aspect of the UI.

> There are other packages that provide different features in
> different outputs, but the majority of multiple-output packages have the
> “standard” outputs: “doc”, “bin”, “lib”, “debug”.

Right, and it would not be worthwhile to add anything to the UI for
these.

The 'output synopsis' would only be printed in the UI if we actually
defined a synopsis for it. That way, we wouldn't have 16000 lines of
noise like "debug symbols for foo" in `guix package --search=.`

> So maybe we could look at the ‘git’ package (can it be split into
> several packages? would that help?) in addition to the UI, and also make
> sure the UI is optimized for the most frequent cases.

Good question. The Git package is super complicated, so I'm not feeling
very motivated to think about how to rewrite it :)

[0] https://logs.guix.gnu.org/guix/2021-03-11.log#194242
https://issues.guix.gnu.org/46329





Last modified: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 01:15:01 UTC

GNU bug tracking system
Copyright (C) 1999 Darren O. Benham, 1997 nCipher Corporation Ltd, 1994-97 Ian Jackson.