GNU bug report logs - #47937
27.1; Invisible text property updated only for a portion of buffer

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 18:15:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 27.1

Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>

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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.1; Invisible text property updated only for a portion of buffer
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 20:14:04 +0200
[test.org (text/x-org, attachment)]
[ob-hide-markers.el (application/emacs-lisp, attachment)]
[Message part 3 (text/plain, inline)]
With emacs -Q

load and eval attached file: ob-hide-markers.el

open attached test.org file and switch to it's buffer.

M-x org-babel-hide-markers-mode

Expected all babel source block markers should be hidden, in entire
buffer. 

For me, when scrolled down, after few screen pages, for me after ~ 3½
screen pages, block markers are for some reason not processed.

Kill test.org buffer, and open test.org again. Scroll manually through
entire buffer (before running M-x org-bable-hide-markers-mode). When
entire buffer is scrolled run: M-x org-babel-hide-markers-mode.

Now all markers in entire buffer should be processed and
invisible. That is behaviour I get in my emacs 27.1 on Win 10.






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bug#47937; Package emacs. (Wed, 21 Apr 2021 18:30:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
Cc: 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#47937: 27.1;
 Invisible text property updated only for a portion of buffer
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 21:29:18 +0300
> From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 20:14:04 +0200
> 
> load and eval attached file: ob-hide-markers.el
> 
> open attached test.org file and switch to it's buffer.
> 
> M-x org-babel-hide-markers-mode
> 
> Expected all babel source block markers should be hidden, in entire
> buffer. 
> 
> For me, when scrolled down, after few screen pages, for me after ~ 3½
> screen pages, block markers are for some reason not processed.

They are not processed because there's no invisible property there.
So something is wrong here with the code that puts that property on
the text you want to conceal.

IOW, this problem has nothing to do with display or the invisible
property itself.




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bug#47937; Package emacs. (Wed, 21 Apr 2021 18:41:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#47937: 27.1; Invisible text property updated only for a
 portion of buffer
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 20:40:31 +0200
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
>> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 20:14:04 +0200
>> 
>> load and eval attached file: ob-hide-markers.el
>> 
>> open attached test.org file and switch to it's buffer.
>> 
>> M-x org-babel-hide-markers-mode
>> 
>> Expected all babel source block markers should be hidden, in entire
>> buffer. 
>> 
>> For me, when scrolled down, after few screen pages, for me after ~ 3½
>> screen pages, block markers are for some reason not processed.
>
> They are not processed because there's no invisible property there.

Why does it work on visible portion of the buffer, but not on the rest?
Or why does it work if I scroll through the buffer first? Is it some
optimization kicking in, that does not add 'invisible text property for
text that isn't on the screen?

> So something is wrong here with the code that puts that property on
> the text you want to conceal.

I am using put-text-property for entire buffer, and entire test file is
machine generated, so all lines should work same.

> IOW, this problem has nothing to do with display or the invisible
> property itself.

Agree, I know. Problem is that part of buffer does not get invisible
property added. But if buffer is scrolled through, than all parts that
have been on the screen, get's the property updated. Seems to me.




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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
Cc: 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#47937: 27.1; Invisible text property updated only for a
 portion of buffer
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 22:02:02 +0300
> From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
> Cc: 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 20:40:31 +0200
> 
> > They are not processed because there's no invisible property there.
> 
> Why does it work on visible portion of the buffer, but not on the rest?

Because you have font-lock-mode turned on.  And JIT font-lock begins
by wiping out all the text properties.

> But if buffer is scrolled through, than all parts that have been on
> the screen, get's the property updated.

After you have scrolled through all the buffer, Emacs will no longer
try to refontify it, so your invisible property will not be wiped out.




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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: arthur.miller <at> live.com
Cc: 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#47937: 27.1;
 Invisible text property updated only for a portion of buffer
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 22:36:32 +0300
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 22:02:02 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
> > Cc: 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 20:40:31 +0200
> > 
> > > They are not processed because there's no invisible property there.
> > 
> > Why does it work on visible portion of the buffer, but not on the rest?
> 
> Because you have font-lock-mode turned on.  And JIT font-lock begins
> by wiping out all the text properties.

I should clarify this, I guess: this is specific to Org buffers, see
org-unfontify-region.  And "all text properties" is an exaggeration:
it removes many properties, but not all of them.




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Message #20 received at 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#47937: 27.1; Invisible text property updated only for a
 portion of buffer
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 22:10:45 +0200
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 22:02:02 +0300
>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
>> Cc: 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> 
>> > From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
>> > Cc: 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 20:40:31 +0200
>> > 
>> > > They are not processed because there's no invisible property there.
>> > 
>> > Why does it work on visible portion of the buffer, but not on the rest?
>> 
>> Because you have font-lock-mode turned on.  And JIT font-lock begins
>> by wiping out all the text properties.
>
> I should clarify this, I guess: this is specific to Org buffers, see
> org-unfontify-region.  And "all text properties" is an exaggeration:
> it removes many properties, but not all of them.

Allright, thank you for the excellent clarification. I guess I should go
for custom visibility spec instead of plain invisible property, so that
my text property survive font lock.

Please close the bug and thanks.




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Message #23 received at 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
Cc: "47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : bug#47937: 27.1; Invisible text property updated
 only for a portion of buffer
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 22:40:42 +0000
> Because you have font-lock-mode turned on.  And JIT font-lock begins
> by wiping out all the text properties.

Interesting.  Didn't know that.

Why does it wipe out all text properties, and not
just the properties that font-lock itself handles?

(I don't mean to detour the bug thread.  I'm just
curious, if the answer is short.)




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Message #26 received at 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, "arthur.miller <at> live.com"
 <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
Cc: "47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : bug#47937: 27.1; Invisible text property updated
 only for a portion of buffer
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 22:43:26 +0000
> And "all text properties" is an exaggeration:
> it removes many properties, but not all of them.

Oops.  Sorry, I just replied to your previous msg,
then I read this one.  I guess you can ignore my
question there.





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Message #31 received at 47937-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
Cc: 47937-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#47937: 27.1; Invisible text property updated only for a
 portion of buffer
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 09:46:34 +0300
> From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller <at> live.com>
> Cc: 47937 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 22:10:45 +0200
> 
> >> Because you have font-lock-mode turned on.  And JIT font-lock begins
> >> by wiping out all the text properties.
> >
> > I should clarify this, I guess: this is specific to Org buffers, see
> > org-unfontify-region.  And "all text properties" is an exaggeration:
> > it removes many properties, but not all of them.
> 
> Allright, thank you for the excellent clarification. I guess I should go
> for custom visibility spec instead of plain invisible property, so that
> my text property survive font lock.
> 
> Please close the bug and thanks.

I'm closing the bug, but I suggest to take this up with Org
developers, because I think org-unfontify-region removes too many
properties in a way that is too indiscriminate.  They should ideally
only remove the properties they themselves add.




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