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[PATCH]: Gnu: Add Weir

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Package: guix-patches; Reported by: Sharlatan Hellseher <sharlatanus@HIDDEN>; Keywords: patch; dated Wed, 21 Apr 2021 21:40:01 UTC; Maintainer for guix-patches is guix-patches@HIDDEN.
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Giovanni Biscuolo <g@HIDDEN> skribis:

> I am almost sure that the licenses for the points 1 (license clearly
> stated by Paul Graham) and 3 (no license for that code means "classic"
> full copyright) are non-free.
>
> [...]
>
> Please can you yust revert this patch and give us some time to settle
> this issue?

I reverted the patch in 2eb9e57c0c554a926ba363031dd4ee7bb215034f.

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Hi Guillaume,

thank you for your follow up and for your contribution to Guix!

Guillaume Le Vaillant <glv@HIDDEN> writes:

> Giovanni Biscuolo <g@HIDDEN> skribis:

[...]

>> AFAIU the license in 1. means that that piece of code is not free
>> software, since "verbatim copy" AFAIU is not free
>>
>> The license in 2. AFAIU is free software, license:expat or other? Can
>> you clarify please?
>>
>> The code referenced in 3. is suggested by lispm in
>> https://gist.github.com/inconvergent/8b6ccfbde4fca7844c1962082ef07a7e
>> and AFAIU is not a trivial patch with no clear license: I really don't
>> know how this kind of code is normally evaluated from a GNU FSDG point
>> of view
>>
>> I think we need some guidance from someone more experienced in license
>> issues.

> I pushed the patch just before receiving your email about the possible
> license issue. Bad timing...

I saw your push some minutes after my message :-)

> I'm not a lawyer and I'm not sure what the final license of Weir is, so
> it would be nice if some license expert could give us their opinion on
> this. And in case there's a problem, I'll revert the patch.

I am almost sure that the licenses for the points 1 (license clearly
stated by Paul Graham) and 3 (no license for that code means "classic"
full copyright) are non-free.

Please do not forget that a reasonable copyright and license audit is
one of the things to do before committing, so please do not skip this
important step just IANAL ;-)

Please can you yust revert this patch and give us some time to settle
this issue?

Thanks! Giovanni

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Giovanni Biscuolo <g@HIDDEN> skribis:

> Hello Sharlatan,
>
> thank you very much for your patch, Weir and generative algorithms for
> art graphic production are very interesting
>
> We should check the overall license status of weir, see below
>
> [...]
>
> The license file
> https://github.com/inconvergent/weir/blob/master/LICENSE
>
> contains this:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>
> This code is released under the MIT license(see below). Unless otherwise noted.
>
> Most prominent exceptions are:
>
> 1. Some utilities from On Lisp by Paul Graham (in src/various.lisp). They are
>    bound by this notice:
>
> ---
> This code is copyright 1993 by Paul Graham, but anyone who wants
> to use the code in any nonprofit activity, or distribute free
> verbatim copies (including this notice), is encouraged to do so.
> ---
>
> 2. Some modified code by Victor Anyakin in (in src/auxiliary/dat.lisp):
>
> ---
> Copyright (c) 2013-2018 Victor Anyakin <anyakinvictor@HIDDEN>
> All rights reserved.
>
> Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
> modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
>     * Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
>       notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>     * Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
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>
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>
> 3. Some code suggested by @lispm (in src/auxiliary/dat.lisp, src/various.lisp). There
> are links to the original suggestions
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> AFAIU the license in 1. means that that piece of code is not free
> software, since "verbatim copy" AFAIU is not free
>
> The license in 2. AFAIU is free software, license:expat or other? Can
> you clarify please?
>
> The code referenced in 3. is suggested by lispm in
> https://gist.github.com/inconvergent/8b6ccfbde4fca7844c1962082ef07a7e
> and AFAIU is not a trivial patch with no clear license: I really don't
> know how this kind of code is normally evaluated from a GNU FSDG point
> of view
>
> I think we need some guidance from someone more experienced in license
> issues.
>
> Thanks! Giovanni.

Hi Giovanni,

I pushed the patch just before receiving your email about the possible
license issue. Bad timing...

I'm not a lawyer and I'm not sure what the final license of Weir is, so
it would be nice if some license expert could give us their opinion on
this. And in case there's a problem, I'll revert the patch.

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Patch pushed as 5763eba94cccc4019cb07b0cac6c16132c741e11.
I managed to get the tests working on SBCL, it was a file access
permission issue. However a few tests are failing on ECL, so I disabled
them for now.

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Hello Sharlatan,

thank you very much for your patch, Weir and generative algorithms for
art graphic production are very interesting

We should check the overall license status of weir, see below

Sharlatan Hellseher <sharlatanus@HIDDEN> writes:

[...]

> From ffb12b7132e4e831bccab0c22b4de96923b8c079 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Sharlatan Hellseher <sharlatanus@HIDDEN>
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 22:34:26 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH] gnu: Add weir
>
> * gnu/packages/lisp-xyz.scm (sbcl-weir, cl-weir, ecl-weir): New variables
> ---
>  gnu/packages/lisp-xyz.scm | 53 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 53 insertions(+)

[...]

> +      (home-page "https://github.com/inconvergent/weir")
> +      (synopsis "System for making generative systems")
> +      (description
> +       "This package provides Common Lisp system for generating 2d and 3=
d vector
> +artworks with SVG and PNG export format.")
> +      (license license:expat))))

The license file
https://github.com/inconvergent/weir/blob/master/LICENSE

contains this:

=2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---

This code is released under the MIT license(see below). Unless otherwise no=
ted.

Most prominent exceptions are:

1. Some utilities from On Lisp by Paul Graham (in src/various.lisp). They a=
re
   bound by this notice:

=2D--
This code is copyright 1993 by Paul Graham, but anyone who wants
to use the code in any nonprofit activity, or distribute free
verbatim copies (including this notice), is encouraged to do so.
=2D--

2. Some modified code by Victor Anyakin in (in src/auxiliary/dat.lisp):

=2D--
Copyright (c) 2013-2018 Victor Anyakin <anyakinvictor@HIDDEN>
All rights reserved.

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
    * Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
      notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
    * Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
      notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
      documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
    * Neither the name of the organization nor the
      names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products
      derived from this software without specific prior written permission.

THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS "AS IS"=
 AND
ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLI=
ED
WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE
DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL COPYRIGHT HOLDER BE LIABLE FOR ANY
DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES
(INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES;
LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND
ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT
(INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF TH=
IS
SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
=2D--

3. Some code suggested by @lispm (in src/auxiliary/dat.lisp, src/various.li=
sp). There
are links to the original suggestions

=2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

AFAIU the license in 1. means that that piece of code is not free
software, since "verbatim copy" AFAIU is not free

The license in 2. AFAIU is free software, license:expat or other? Can
you clarify please?

The code referenced in 3. is suggested by lispm in
https://gist.github.com/inconvergent/8b6ccfbde4fca7844c1962082ef07a7e
and AFAIU is not a trivial patch with no clear license: I really don't
know how this kind of code is normally evaluated from a GNU FSDG point
of view

I think we need some guidance from someone more experienced in license
issues.

Thanks! Giovanni.

=2D-=20
Giovanni Biscuolo

Xelera IT Infrastructures

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Acknowledgement sent to Sharlatan Hellseher <sharlatanus@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to guix-patches@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to guix-patches@HIDDEN:
bug#47943; Package guix-patches. Full text available.
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