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28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally due to pending keyboard input from terminal

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From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 28.0.50;
 url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally due to pending keyboard
 input from terminal
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:35:05 +1200

`url-retrieve-synchronously` exits abnormally due to pending keyboard input from terminal

This is related to a known issue documented in the `url-retrieve-synchronously` function of `url/url.el`.
https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/7124598068ed267c34e1d70b49361f499fc31c9f/lisp/url/url.el#L297

If the code is changed to the following (the addition of `while-no-input`) then `accept-process-output` will no longer be interrupted.

            (unless (or (while-no-input
                          (with-local-quit
                            (accept-process-output proc 1)))
                        (null proc))

The above possible fix is also documented here:
https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/pull/2419

In order to easily reproduce the issue, one way is to run emacs through terminal and to try to use the function `helm-google-suggest` from package `helm`.
https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/2417

As you can see, the issue affects a lot of users. Currently, all users of terminal emacs that use helm.
Unfortunately, it appears that it can't be handled outside of `url/url.el`.




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Message #8 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50;
 url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally due to pending keyboard
 input from terminal
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:05:52 +0300

> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 18:35:05 +1200
> From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
> 
> 
> `url-retrieve-synchronously` exits abnormally due to pending keyboard input from terminal
> 
> This is related to a known issue documented in the `url-retrieve-synchronously` function of `url/url.el`.
> https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/7124598068ed267c34e1d70b49361f499fc31c9f/lisp/url/url.el#L297
> 
> If the code is changed to the following (the addition of `while-no-input`) then `accept-process-output` will no longer be interrupted.
> 
>             (unless (or (while-no-input
>                           (with-local-quit
>                             (accept-process-output proc 1)))
>                         (null proc))
> 
> The above possible fix is also documented here:
> https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/pull/2419
> 
> In order to easily reproduce the issue, one way is to run emacs through terminal and to try to use the function `helm-google-suggest` from package `helm`.
> https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/2417
> 
> As you can see, the issue affects a lot of users. Currently, all users of terminal emacs that use helm.
> Unfortunately, it appears that it can't be handled outside of `url/url.el`.

I don't understand: with-local-quit isn't supposed to react to
keyboard input, only to C-g.  So what kind of pending keyboard input
interrupts it in this case?

Message #11 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally
 due to pending keyboard input from terminal
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 19:54:03 +0300

> From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 04:32:16 +1200
> 
> Thanks for looking into this so quickly. First some background on the problem. I managed to work through
> this issue (https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/2417) with the `emacs-helm` maintainer and we
> found what appears to be that the call to `accept-process-output` inside of `url-retrieve-synchronously` will
> generate a `C-g` when there is pending input of any char. As far as I can tell this is an issue only with
> terminal emacs. As I understand it, `inhibit-quit`, as used in `accept-process-output` allows a `C-g` to be
> propagated outwards and handled and from what I can see by the comments surrounding,
> 
> ```
>               ;; accept-process-output returned nil, maybe because the process
>               ;; exited (and may have been replaced with another).  If we got
>               ;; a quit, just stop.
> ```
> 
> the `C-g` in this case is expected.
> 
> But I wonder if `C-g` was meant to be generated if the user was simply mashing keys on the keyboard.  In
> this case, the `C-g` emanating from `accept-process-output` was bubbling up into `helm` and `helm` was
> treating it like an error.
> 
> Here, you can see a quit being generated from the visual cue in the minibuffer.
> https://asciinema.org/a/nAIB8Z1lGgZJqJg9Mt8YiNEM9
> 
> Here, I have added `while-no-input` and I no longer get the `quit`.
> https://asciinema.org/a/x9ELZhwDP1IUtmOz0M1cly42H
> 
> However, as I test the addition of `while-no-input` with `helm-google-suggest` (as above), though Quit is no
> longer being generated from mashing keys, the key input which would have generated the `quit` is not
> immediately shown in `helm`. Instead, it only appears on the next key press. So my implementation may not
> be perfect or complete.
> 
> Finding the solution would make the minibuffer far less interrupted while typing when
> `url-retrieve-synchronously` is used in the background.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Shane Mulligan

Please in the future send your responses with the bug address,
48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, on the CC list, so that others will see your
detailed descriptions.  I won't have time to take a good look into
that in the next few days, so it's good to make others aware of your
findings, because they might look into it meanwhile.

Personally, I find it very strange that typing on the keyboard
produces C-g, it shouldn't happen, neither on a TTY nor on a GUI
display.

Message #14 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
To: 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally
 due to pending keyboard input from terminal
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 11:32:23 +1200

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My apologies. It was literally 5am when I wrote that. I think I have
misunderstood `C-g` being generated with `quit-flag`. The bad behaviour is
very clearly still happening. I will try to clarify this problem further by
experimenting with it. I need to figure out why `while-no-input` suppresses
the `quit` but merely setting `quit-flag` does not. Something indirect may
be happening.

Thank you all,
Shane Mulligan

How to contact me:
🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
mullikine <at> gmail.com


On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 4:54 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 04:32:16 +1200
> >
> > Thanks for looking into this so quickly. First some background on the
> problem. I managed to work through
> > this issue (https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/2417) with the
> `emacs-helm` maintainer and we
> > found what appears to be that the call to `accept-process-output` inside
> of `url-retrieve-synchronously` will
> > generate a `C-g` when there is pending input of any char. As far as I
> can tell this is an issue only with
> > terminal emacs. As I understand it, `inhibit-quit`, as used in
> `accept-process-output` allows a `C-g` to be
> > propagated outwards and handled and from what I can see by the comments
> surrounding,
> >
> > ```
> >               ;; accept-process-output returned nil, maybe because the
> process
> >               ;; exited (and may have been replaced with another).  If
> we got
> >               ;; a quit, just stop.
> > ```
> >
> > the `C-g` in this case is expected.
> >
> > But I wonder if `C-g` was meant to be generated if the user was simply
> mashing keys on the keyboard.  In
> > this case, the `C-g` emanating from `accept-process-output` was bubbling
> up into `helm` and `helm` was
> > treating it like an error.
> >
> > Here, you can see a quit being generated from the visual cue in the
> minibuffer.
> > https://asciinema.org/a/nAIB8Z1lGgZJqJg9Mt8YiNEM9
> >
> > Here, I have added `while-no-input` and I no longer get the `quit`.
> > https://asciinema.org/a/x9ELZhwDP1IUtmOz0M1cly42H
> >
> > However, as I test the addition of `while-no-input` with
> `helm-google-suggest` (as above), though Quit is no
> > longer being generated from mashing keys, the key input which would have
> generated the `quit` is not
> > immediately shown in `helm`. Instead, it only appears on the next key
> press. So my implementation may not
> > be perfect or complete.
> >
> > Finding the solution would make the minibuffer far less interrupted
> while typing when
> > `url-retrieve-synchronously` is used in the background.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Shane Mulligan
>
> Please in the future send your responses with the bug address,
> 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, on the CC list, so that others will see your
> detailed descriptions.  I won't have time to take a good look into
> that in the next few days, so it's good to make others aware of your
> findings, because they might look into it meanwhile.
>
> Personally, I find it very strange that typing on the keyboard
> produces C-g, it shouldn't happen, neither on a TTY nor on a GUI
> display.
>

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Message #17 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
To: 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally
 due to pending keyboard input from terminal
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 18:48:09 +1200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

I may have resolved this issue with the following patch to
`url-retrieve-synchronously`.
What this achieves is to trigger a `quit` in a controlled environment
rather than allowing it to occur when `accept-process-output` is run.
It's not always wanted to trigger a quit when `(input-pending-p)` is `t`.
But I noticed from placing `while-no-input` around `accept-process-output`
to avoid the `quit` that `url-retrieve-synchronously` would then hang but
with the controlled `quit` happening beforehand, `accept-process-output` no
longer needs `while-no-input` around it. The end result is buttery smooth
helm with no accidental `quit` from typing too fast. I think this may have
resulted in GUI helm faster too.

```
29c29,30
<       (let ((proc (get-buffer-process asynch-buffer)))
---
>       (let ((proc (get-buffer-process asynch-buffer))
>             (counter 0))
71a73,78
>             (with-local-quit
>               (if (input-pending-p)
>                   (progn
>                     (setq counter (1+ counter))
>                     (if (> counter 20)
>                         (keyboard-quit)))))
```
Shane Mulligan

How to contact me:
🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
mullikine <at> gmail.com


On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:32 AM Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> My apologies. It was literally 5am when I wrote that. I think I have
> misunderstood `C-g` being generated with `quit-flag`. The bad behaviour is
> very clearly still happening. I will try to clarify this problem further by
> experimenting with it. I need to figure out why `while-no-input` suppresses
> the `quit` but merely setting `quit-flag` does not. Something indirect may
> be happening.
>
> Thank you all,
> Shane Mulligan
>
> How to contact me:
> 🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
> 🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
> mullikine <at> gmail.com
>
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 4:54 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> > From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
>> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 04:32:16 +1200
>> >
>> > Thanks for looking into this so quickly. First some background on the
>> problem. I managed to work through
>> > this issue (https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/2417) with the
>> `emacs-helm` maintainer and we
>> > found what appears to be that the call to `accept-process-output`
>> inside of `url-retrieve-synchronously` will
>> > generate a `C-g` when there is pending input of any char. As far as I
>> can tell this is an issue only with
>> > terminal emacs. As I understand it, `inhibit-quit`, as used in
>> `accept-process-output` allows a `C-g` to be
>> > propagated outwards and handled and from what I can see by the comments
>> surrounding,
>> >
>> > ```
>> >               ;; accept-process-output returned nil, maybe because the
>> process
>> >               ;; exited (and may have been replaced with another).  If
>> we got
>> >               ;; a quit, just stop.
>> > ```
>> >
>> > the `C-g` in this case is expected.
>> >
>> > But I wonder if `C-g` was meant to be generated if the user was simply
>> mashing keys on the keyboard.  In
>> > this case, the `C-g` emanating from `accept-process-output` was
>> bubbling up into `helm` and `helm` was
>> > treating it like an error.
>> >
>> > Here, you can see a quit being generated from the visual cue in the
>> minibuffer.
>> > https://asciinema.org/a/nAIB8Z1lGgZJqJg9Mt8YiNEM9
>> >
>> > Here, I have added `while-no-input` and I no longer get the `quit`.
>> > https://asciinema.org/a/x9ELZhwDP1IUtmOz0M1cly42H
>> >
>> > However, as I test the addition of `while-no-input` with
>> `helm-google-suggest` (as above), though Quit is no
>> > longer being generated from mashing keys, the key input which would
>> have generated the `quit` is not
>> > immediately shown in `helm`. Instead, it only appears on the next key
>> press. So my implementation may not
>> > be perfect or complete.
>> >
>> > Finding the solution would make the minibuffer far less interrupted
>> while typing when
>> > `url-retrieve-synchronously` is used in the background.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > Shane Mulligan
>>
>> Please in the future send your responses with the bug address,
>> 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, on the CC list, so that others will see your
>> detailed descriptions.  I won't have time to take a good look into
>> that in the next few days, so it's good to make others aware of your
>> findings, because they might look into it meanwhile.
>>
>> Personally, I find it very strange that typing on the keyboard
>> produces C-g, it shouldn't happen, neither on a TTY nor on a GUI
>> display.
>>
>

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Message #20 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
To: 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally
 due to pending keyboard input from terminal
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 18:49:46 +1200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

Hi Eli,

I tagged you back in this conversation because I may have fixed the issue
:).

Shane Mulligan

How to contact me:
🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
mullikine <at> gmail.com


On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:48 PM Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> I may have resolved this issue with the following patch to
> `url-retrieve-synchronously`.
> What this achieves is to trigger a `quit` in a controlled environment
> rather than allowing it to occur when `accept-process-output` is run.
> It's not always wanted to trigger a quit when `(input-pending-p)` is `t`.
> But I noticed from placing `while-no-input` around `accept-process-output`
> to avoid the `quit` that `url-retrieve-synchronously` would then hang but
> with the controlled `quit` happening beforehand, `accept-process-output` no
> longer needs `while-no-input` around it. The end result is buttery smooth
> helm with no accidental `quit` from typing too fast. I think this may have
> resulted in GUI helm faster too.
>
> ```
> 29c29,30
> <       (let ((proc (get-buffer-process asynch-buffer)))
> ---
> >       (let ((proc (get-buffer-process asynch-buffer))
> >             (counter 0))
> 71a73,78
> >             (with-local-quit
> >               (if (input-pending-p)
> >                   (progn
> >                     (setq counter (1+ counter))
> >                     (if (> counter 20)
> >                         (keyboard-quit)))))
> ```
> Shane Mulligan
>
> How to contact me:
> 🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
> 🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
> mullikine <at> gmail.com
>
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:32 AM Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> My apologies. It was literally 5am when I wrote that. I think I have
>> misunderstood `C-g` being generated with `quit-flag`. The bad behaviour is
>> very clearly still happening. I will try to clarify this problem further by
>> experimenting with it. I need to figure out why `while-no-input` suppresses
>> the `quit` but merely setting `quit-flag` does not. Something indirect may
>> be happening.
>>
>> Thank you all,
>> Shane Mulligan
>>
>> How to contact me:
>> 🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
>> 🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
>> mullikine <at> gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 4:54 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>>
>>> > From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
>>> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 04:32:16 +1200
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for looking into this so quickly. First some background on the
>>> problem. I managed to work through
>>> > this issue (https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/2417) with the
>>> `emacs-helm` maintainer and we
>>> > found what appears to be that the call to `accept-process-output`
>>> inside of `url-retrieve-synchronously` will
>>> > generate a `C-g` when there is pending input of any char. As far as I
>>> can tell this is an issue only with
>>> > terminal emacs. As I understand it, `inhibit-quit`, as used in
>>> `accept-process-output` allows a `C-g` to be
>>> > propagated outwards and handled and from what I can see by the
>>> comments surrounding,
>>> >
>>> > ```
>>> >               ;; accept-process-output returned nil, maybe because the
>>> process
>>> >               ;; exited (and may have been replaced with another).  If
>>> we got
>>> >               ;; a quit, just stop.
>>> > ```
>>> >
>>> > the `C-g` in this case is expected.
>>> >
>>> > But I wonder if `C-g` was meant to be generated if the user was simply
>>> mashing keys on the keyboard.  In
>>> > this case, the `C-g` emanating from `accept-process-output` was
>>> bubbling up into `helm` and `helm` was
>>> > treating it like an error.
>>> >
>>> > Here, you can see a quit being generated from the visual cue in the
>>> minibuffer.
>>> > https://asciinema.org/a/nAIB8Z1lGgZJqJg9Mt8YiNEM9
>>> >
>>> > Here, I have added `while-no-input` and I no longer get the `quit`.
>>> > https://asciinema.org/a/x9ELZhwDP1IUtmOz0M1cly42H
>>> >
>>> > However, as I test the addition of `while-no-input` with
>>> `helm-google-suggest` (as above), though Quit is no
>>> > longer being generated from mashing keys, the key input which would
>>> have generated the `quit` is not
>>> > immediately shown in `helm`. Instead, it only appears on the next key
>>> press. So my implementation may not
>>> > be perfect or complete.
>>> >
>>> > Finding the solution would make the minibuffer far less interrupted
>>> while typing when
>>> > `url-retrieve-synchronously` is used in the background.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you.
>>> >
>>> > Shane Mulligan
>>>
>>> Please in the future send your responses with the bug address,
>>> 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, on the CC list, so that others will see your
>>> detailed descriptions.  I won't have time to take a good look into
>>> that in the next few days, so it's good to make others aware of your
>>> findings, because they might look into it meanwhile.
>>>
>>> Personally, I find it very strange that typing on the keyboard
>>> produces C-g, it shouldn't happen, neither on a TTY nor on a GUI
>>> display.
>>>
>>

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Message #23 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
To: 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally
 due to pending keyboard input from terminal
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 23:46:04 +1200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

I have done a write-up on this issue to clarify everything.

https://mullikine.github.io/posts/fixing-googling-tooling-in-emacs/

Shane Mulligan

How to contact me:
🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
mullikine <at> gmail.com


On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:49 PM Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Eli,
>
> I tagged you back in this conversation because I may have fixed the issue
> :).
>
> Shane Mulligan
>
> How to contact me:
> 🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
> 🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
> mullikine <at> gmail.com
>
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:48 PM Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I may have resolved this issue with the following patch to
>> `url-retrieve-synchronously`.
>> What this achieves is to trigger a `quit` in a controlled environment
>> rather than allowing it to occur when `accept-process-output` is run.
>> It's not always wanted to trigger a quit when `(input-pending-p)` is `t`.
>> But I noticed from placing `while-no-input` around `accept-process-output`
>> to avoid the `quit` that `url-retrieve-synchronously` would then hang but
>> with the controlled `quit` happening beforehand, `accept-process-output` no
>> longer needs `while-no-input` around it. The end result is buttery smooth
>> helm with no accidental `quit` from typing too fast. I think this may have
>> resulted in GUI helm faster too.
>>
>> ```
>> 29c29,30
>> <       (let ((proc (get-buffer-process asynch-buffer)))
>> ---
>> >       (let ((proc (get-buffer-process asynch-buffer))
>> >             (counter 0))
>> 71a73,78
>> >             (with-local-quit
>> >               (if (input-pending-p)
>> >                   (progn
>> >                     (setq counter (1+ counter))
>> >                     (if (> counter 20)
>> >                         (keyboard-quit)))))
>> ```
>> Shane Mulligan
>>
>> How to contact me:
>> 🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
>> 🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
>> mullikine <at> gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:32 AM Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My apologies. It was literally 5am when I wrote that. I think I have
>>> misunderstood `C-g` being generated with `quit-flag`. The bad behaviour is
>>> very clearly still happening. I will try to clarify this problem further by
>>> experimenting with it. I need to figure out why `while-no-input` suppresses
>>> the `quit` but merely setting `quit-flag` does not. Something indirect may
>>> be happening.
>>>
>>> Thank you all,
>>> Shane Mulligan
>>>
>>> How to contact me:
>>> 🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
>>> 🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
>>> mullikine <at> gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 4:54 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
>>>> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 04:32:16 +1200
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for looking into this so quickly. First some background on the
>>>> problem. I managed to work through
>>>> > this issue (https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/2417) with the
>>>> `emacs-helm` maintainer and we
>>>> > found what appears to be that the call to `accept-process-output`
>>>> inside of `url-retrieve-synchronously` will
>>>> > generate a `C-g` when there is pending input of any char. As far as I
>>>> can tell this is an issue only with
>>>> > terminal emacs. As I understand it, `inhibit-quit`, as used in
>>>> `accept-process-output` allows a `C-g` to be
>>>> > propagated outwards and handled and from what I can see by the
>>>> comments surrounding,
>>>> >
>>>> > ```
>>>> >               ;; accept-process-output returned nil, maybe because
>>>> the process
>>>> >               ;; exited (and may have been replaced with another).
>>>> If we got
>>>> >               ;; a quit, just stop.
>>>> > ```
>>>> >
>>>> > the `C-g` in this case is expected.
>>>> >
>>>> > But I wonder if `C-g` was meant to be generated if the user was
>>>> simply mashing keys on the keyboard.  In
>>>> > this case, the `C-g` emanating from `accept-process-output` was
>>>> bubbling up into `helm` and `helm` was
>>>> > treating it like an error.
>>>> >
>>>> > Here, you can see a quit being generated from the visual cue in the
>>>> minibuffer.
>>>> > https://asciinema.org/a/nAIB8Z1lGgZJqJg9Mt8YiNEM9
>>>> >
>>>> > Here, I have added `while-no-input` and I no longer get the `quit`.
>>>> > https://asciinema.org/a/x9ELZhwDP1IUtmOz0M1cly42H
>>>> >
>>>> > However, as I test the addition of `while-no-input` with
>>>> `helm-google-suggest` (as above), though Quit is no
>>>> > longer being generated from mashing keys, the key input which would
>>>> have generated the `quit` is not
>>>> > immediately shown in `helm`. Instead, it only appears on the next key
>>>> press. So my implementation may not
>>>> > be perfect or complete.
>>>> >
>>>> > Finding the solution would make the minibuffer far less interrupted
>>>> while typing when
>>>> > `url-retrieve-synchronously` is used in the background.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you.
>>>> >
>>>> > Shane Mulligan
>>>>
>>>> Please in the future send your responses with the bug address,
>>>> 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, on the CC list, so that others will see your
>>>> detailed descriptions.  I won't have time to take a good look into
>>>> that in the next few days, so it's good to make others aware of your
>>>> findings, because they might look into it meanwhile.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I find it very strange that typing on the keyboard
>>>> produces C-g, it shouldn't happen, neither on a TTY nor on a GUI
>>>> display.
>>>>
>>>

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Message #26 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50;
 url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally due to pending keyboard
 input from terminal
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 14:57:09 +0300

> From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 18:48:09 +1200
> 
> I may have resolved this issue with the following patch to `url-retrieve-synchronously`.
> What this achieves is to trigger a `quit` in a controlled environment rather than allowing it to occur when
> `accept-process-output` is run.
> It's not always wanted to trigger a quit when `(input-pending-p)` is `t`. But I noticed from placing
> `while-no-input` around `accept-process-output` to avoid the `quit` that `url-retrieve-synchronously` would
> then hang but with the controlled `quit` happening beforehand, `accept-process-output` no longer needs
> `while-no-input` around it. The end result is buttery smooth helm with no accidental `quit` from typing too
> fast. I think this may have resulted in GUI helm faster too.

Thanks, but what causes a quit in the first place?

Message #29 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
To: 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Fwd: bug#48500: 28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally
 due to pending keyboard input from terminal
Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 01:08:08 +1200

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Shane Mulligan

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---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits
abnormally due to pending keyboard input from terminal
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>


Hey Eli,

I'm not sure where the quit is being generated but I will look into it.

Here are my insights.

** Original code
https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/HEAD/lisp/url/url.el

  292             ;; We used to use `sit-for' here, but in some cases it
wouldn't
  293             ;; work because apparently pending keyboard input would
always
  294             ;; interrupt it before it got a chance to handle process
input.
  295             ;; `sleep-for' was tried but it lead to other forms of
  296             ;; hanging.  --Stef
  297             (unless (or (with-local-quit
  298                           (accept-process-output proc 1))
  299                         (null proc))

https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/HEAD/src/keyboard.c

  10395 DEFUN ("input-pending-p", Finput_pending_p, Sinput_pending_p, 0, 1,
0,
  10396        doc: /* Return t if command input is currently available
with no wait.
  10397 Actually, the value is nil only if we can be sure that no input is
available;
  10398 if there is a doubt, the value is t.

** I discovered that placing while-no-input here prevented quit from
generating elsewhere
But then the overall function `url-retrieve-synchronously` would hang.

  112             (unless (or
  113                      (while-no-input
  114                        (with-local-quit
  115                          (accept-process-output proc 1)))
  116                      (null proc))

** Before discovering the 'fix' which is running keyboard-quit early (shown
below), I avoided the hang by reading the key.
But reading and discarding the key wasn't a solution. I found that by doing
the keyboard quit shown below instead of reading the key, the
keyboard input is preserved and somehow (unsure how), the pending input is
pacified `accept-process-output` is 'safe' now to run.

   96             (with-local-quit
   97               (if (input-pending-p)
   98                   (progn
   99                     (setq counter (1+ counter))
  100                     ;; (append-to-file (concat (char-to-string
(read-key)) "\n"))
  101                     (my-url-log (concat ">input pending" (str
counter)))
  102                     (if (> counter 20)
  103                         (progn
  104                           ;; (my-url-log (concat "QUIT" (str
counter)))
  105                           ;; (keyboard-quit))
  106                       ;; This discards the input
  107                       (read-key-sequence-vector nil nil t)
  108                       (never
  109                        (let ((k (read-key)))
  110                          (my-url-log (concat "discarding: "
(char-to-string k)))))
  111                       ))))
  112             (unless (or
- 113                      (while-no-input
  114                        (with-local-quit
= 115                          (accept-process-output proc 1)))
  116                      (null procj))

** Clues

*** Back in 2006, it was advised in a different place to use
input-pending-p instead of sit-for.

  6466 2006-09-12  Kim F. Storm  <storm <at> cua.dk>
  6467
  6468         * simple.el (next-error-highlight,
next-error-highlight-no-select):
  6469         Fix spelling error.
  6470
  6471         * subr.el (sit-for): Rework to use input-pending-p and cond.
  6472         Return nil input is pending on entry also for SECONDS <= 0.
  6473         (while-no-input): Use input-pending-p instead of sit-for.

*** Quitting disabled when input-pendind-p is t

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Idle-Timers.html

https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/567c31121fdef6bdc8b645999a6ca1d994378c89/lisp/play/zone.el#L50

  49 ;; window.  If the function loops, it *must* periodically check and
  50 ;; halt if `input-pending-p' is t (because quitting is disabled when
  51 ;; Emacs idle timers are run).


Shane Mulligan

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On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:57 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 18:48:09 +1200
> >
> > I may have resolved this issue with the following patch to
> `url-retrieve-synchronously`.
> > What this achieves is to trigger a `quit` in a controlled environment
> rather than allowing it to occur when
> > `accept-process-output` is run.
> > It's not always wanted to trigger a quit when `(input-pending-p)` is
> `t`. But I noticed from placing
> > `while-no-input` around `accept-process-output` to avoid the `quit` that
> `url-retrieve-synchronously` would
> > then hang but with the controlled `quit` happening beforehand,
> `accept-process-output` no longer needs
> > `while-no-input` around it. The end result is buttery smooth helm with
> no accidental `quit` from typing too
> > fast. I think this may have resulted in GUI helm faster too.
>
> Thanks, but what causes a quit in the first place?
>

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Message #32 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally
 due to pending keyboard input from terminal
Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 01:12:10 +1200

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I will do some further studies to see if I can find exactly how quit is
being generated.

Shane Mulligan

How to contact me:
🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
mullikine <at> gmail.com


On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:57 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 18:48:09 +1200
> >
> > I may have resolved this issue with the following patch to
> `url-retrieve-synchronously`.
> > What this achieves is to trigger a `quit` in a controlled environment
> rather than allowing it to occur when
> > `accept-process-output` is run.
> > It's not always wanted to trigger a quit when `(input-pending-p)` is
> `t`. But I noticed from placing
> > `while-no-input` around `accept-process-output` to avoid the `quit` that
> `url-retrieve-synchronously` would
> > then hang but with the controlled `quit` happening beforehand,
> `accept-process-output` no longer needs
> > `while-no-input` around it. The end result is buttery smooth helm with
> no accidental `quit` from typing too
> > fast. I think this may have resulted in GUI helm faster too.
>
> Thanks, but what causes a quit in the first place?
>

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Message #35 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally
 due to pending keyboard input from terminal
Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 11:35:27 +1200

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Hey Eli,

A small update.
I found that when I used internet from a slower connection, the hang
returned, so I have a more robust workaround now. I simply abort the
function if there is a hang.

```
13c13,14
<   (let ((retrieval-done nil)
---
>   (let ((inhibit-quit t)
>         (retrieval-done nil)
17c18,19
<         (timed-out nil))
---
>         (timed-out nil)
>         (abort-hang nil))
29c31,32
<       (let ((proc (get-buffer-process asynch-buffer)))
---
>       (let ((proc (get-buffer-process asynch-buffer))
>             (counter 0))
38a42
>                     (not abort-hang)
72,74c76,87
<             (unless (or (with-local-quit
<                           (accept-process-output proc 1))
<                         (null proc))
---
>             (if (input-pending-p)
>                 (progn
>                   (setq counter (1+ counter))
>                   (if (> counter 20)
>                       (setq abort-hang t))))
>             ;; accept-process-output hangs without while-no-input; input
has
>             ;; nowhere to go. So avoid it.
>             (unless (or
>                      (while-no-input
>                        (with-local-quit
>                          (accept-process-output proc 0.1)))
>                      (null proc))
```
Shane Mulligan

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13c13,14
<   (let ((retrieval-done nil)
---
>   (let ((inhibit-quit t)
>         (retrieval-done nil)
17c18,19
<         (timed-out nil))
---
>         (timed-out nil)
>         (abort-hang nil))
29c31,32
<       (let ((proc (get-buffer-process asynch-buffer)))
---
>       (let ((proc (get-buffer-process asynch-buffer))
>             (counter 0))
38a42
>                     (not abort-hang)
72,74c76,87
<             (unless (or (with-local-quit
<                           (accept-process-output proc 1))
<                         (null proc))
---
>             (if (input-pending-p)
>                 (progn
>                   (setq counter (1+ counter))
>                   (if (> counter 20)
>                       (setq abort-hang t))))
>             ;; accept-process-output hangs without while-no-input; input
has
>             ;; nowhere to go. So avoid it.
>             (unless (or
>                      (while-no-input
>                        (with-local-quit
>                          (accept-process-output proc 0.1)))
>                      (null proc))

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:12 AM Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> I will do some further studies to see if I can find exactly how quit is
> being generated.
>
> Shane Mulligan
>
> How to contact me:
> 🇦🇺 00 61 421 641 250
> 🇳🇿 00 64 21 1462 759 <+64-21-1462-759>
> mullikine <at> gmail.com
>
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:57 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> > From: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
>> > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 18:48:09 +1200
>> >
>> > I may have resolved this issue with the following patch to
>> `url-retrieve-synchronously`.
>> > What this achieves is to trigger a `quit` in a controlled environment
>> rather than allowing it to occur when
>> > `accept-process-output` is run.
>> > It's not always wanted to trigger a quit when `(input-pending-p)` is
>> `t`. But I noticed from placing
>> > `while-no-input` around `accept-process-output` to avoid the `quit`
>> that `url-retrieve-synchronously` would
>> > then hang but with the controlled `quit` happening beforehand,
>> `accept-process-output` no longer needs
>> > `while-no-input` around it. The end result is buttery smooth helm with
>> no accidental `quit` from typing too
>> > fast. I think this may have resulted in GUI helm faster too.
>>
>> Thanks, but what causes a quit in the first place?
>>
>

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Message #38 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally
 due to pending keyboard input from terminal
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 13:58:54 +0200

Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com> writes:

> A small update.
> I found that when I used internet from a slower connection, the hang returned, so I
> have a more robust workaround now. I simply abort the function if there is a hang.

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)

Reading this bug thread, it's unclear what the actual problem is (i.e.,
how the quit was generated in the first place).  Did you make any
progress in determining that?

And:

> ```
> 13c13,14
> <   (let ((retrieval-done nil)
> ---
>>   (let ((inhibit-quit t)
>>         (retrieval-done nil)
> 17c18,19
> <         (timed-out nil))

We need a context diff, not a raw diff, because those aren't very
readable.  Can you redo the diff with "diff -u" (which is the default if
you just say `C-x v u' instead)?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #43 received at 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Shane Mulligan <mullikine <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 48500 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#48500: 28.0.50; url-retrieve-synchronously exits abnormally
 due to pending keyboard input from terminal
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 17:57:05 +0200

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Reading this bug thread, it's unclear what the actual problem is (i.e.,
> how the quit was generated in the first place).  Did you make any
> progress in determining that?

More information was requested, but no response was given within a
month, so I'm closing this bug report.  If the problem still exists,
please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report.

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