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Improve style of C-h t description (Preface)

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Subject: Re: bug#48504: Improve style of C-h t description (Preface)
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>>> We didn't yet introduce the Ctrl etc. notation at that place.
>>
>> What about "Control" instead of "Ctrl"?
>
> You mean, just capitalize what the text already says? no objections
> here.

No, I mean to change this:
    (which is ``control h and then t'')
into this:
    (hold down @key{Control} and type @kbd{h}, then let go of
    @key{Control} and type @kbd{t})




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> Cc: 48504 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Sebastian Urban <mrsebastianurban@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 22:35:37 +0200
> 
> >> Currently, in the Preface of the Emacs manual (EMACS.TEXI - L1291),
> >> there is:
> >>     To run the tutorial, start Emacs and type @kbd{C-h t} (which is
> >>     ``control h and then t'').
> >>
> >> I think, the part between parens should look better, e.g. similar to
> >> this part of SCREEN.TEXI (L126):
> >>     ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{x}, then let go of
> >>     @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{=})...
> >> ...i.e.:
> >>     ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{h}, then let go of
> >>     @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{t}).
> > 
> > We didn't yet introduce the Ctrl etc. notation at that place.
> 
> What about "Control" instead of "Ctrl"?

You mean, just capitalize what the text already says? no objections
here.




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>> Currently, in the Preface of the Emacs manual (EMACS.TEXI - L1291),
>> there is:
>>     To run the tutorial, start Emacs and type @kbd{C-h t} (which is
>>     ``control h and then t'').
>>
>> I think, the part between parens should look better, e.g. similar to
>> this part of SCREEN.TEXI (L126):
>>     ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{x}, then let go of
>>     @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{=})...
>> ...i.e.:
>>     ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{h}, then let go of
>>     @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{t}).
> 
> We didn't yet introduce the Ctrl etc. notation at that place.

What about "Control" instead of "Ctrl"?




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> From: Sebastian Urban <mrsebastianurban@HIDDEN>
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 21:05:14 +0200
> 
> Currently, in the Preface of the Emacs manual (EMACS.TEXI - L1291),
> there is:
>     To run the tutorial, start Emacs and type @kbd{C-h t} (which is
>     ``control h and then t'').
> 
> I think, the part between parens should look better, e.g. similar to
> this part of SCREEN.TEXI (L126):
>     ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{x}, then let go of
>     @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{=})...
> ...i.e.:
>     ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{h}, then let go of
>     @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{t}).

We didn't yet introduce the Ctrl etc. notation at that place.




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From: Sebastian Urban <mrsebastianurban@HIDDEN>
Subject: Improve style of C-h t description (Preface)
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Currently, in the Preface of the Emacs manual (EMACS.TEXI - L1291),
there is:
    To run the tutorial, start Emacs and type @kbd{C-h t} (which is
    ``control h and then t'').

I think, the part between parens should look better, e.g. similar to
this part of SCREEN.TEXI (L126):
    ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{x}, then let go of
    @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{=})...
...i.e.:
    ...(hold down @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{h}, then let go of
    @key{Ctrl} and type @kbd{t}).

That's all.

--
S. U.




Acknowledgement sent to Sebastian Urban <mrsebastianurban@HIDDEN>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN. Full text available.
Report forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN:
bug#48504; Package emacs. Full text available.
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