Package: emacs;
Reported by: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 05:56:01 UTC
Severity: normal
Found in version 27.2
Done: Andrea Corallo <akrl <at> sdf.org>
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(Thu, 03 Jun 2021 05:56:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>
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From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Subject: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 07:54:44 +0200
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When trying to compile (28.0.50) with --with-native-compilation, the ./configure comes out with libgccjit failed the smoke test, and the explanation for getting libgccjit is not easy, actual it's very complicated. In GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, arm-apple-darwin20.3.0, NS appkit-2022.30 Version 11.2.3 (Build 20D91)) of 2021-03-27 built on armbob.porkrind.org Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2022 System Description: macOS 11.4 Recent messages: config • time uses … →★★★ Total time for configuration 4.22s Loading /Users/niels/.emacs.d/config.el (source)...done →★ loading init.el in 4.22s Creating LaTeX previews in buffer... done. Welcome Niels Søndergaard! Emacs 27.2; Org-mode 9.4.5; System macal; Time 4.302628 seconds gc-cons-threshold and file-name-handler-alist restored Bug-Reference mode enabled in current buffer Mark set Beginning of buffer [9 times] Configured using: 'configure --with-ns '--enable-locallisppath=/Library/Application Support/Emacs/${version}/site-lisp:/Library/Application Support/Emacs/site-lisp' --with-modules' Configured features: NOTIFY KQUEUE ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS NS MODULES THREADS JSON PDUMPER GMP Important settings: value of $LANG: da_DK.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8 Major mode: Dashboard Minor modes in effect: bug-reference-mode: t gcmh-mode: t global-emojify-mode: t emojify-mode: t global-git-gutter-mode: t org-roam-server-mode: t org-roam-mode: t org-super-agenda-mode: t global-flycheck-mode: t company-box-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t global-page-break-lines-mode: t page-break-lines-mode: t diredfl-global-mode: t doom-modeline-mode: t fancy-battery-mode: t dimmer-mode: t 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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> Cc: 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 09:46:30 +0300
> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> > Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 07:54:44 +0200 > > When trying to compile (28.0.50) with --with-native-compilation, the > ./configure comes out with libgccjit failed the smoke test, and the > explanation for getting libgccjit is not easy, actual it's very > complicated. The message is: Installed libgccjit has failed passing the smoke test. You can verify it yourself compiling: <https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/jit/intro/tutorial01.html>. Please report the issue to your distribution if libgccjit was installed through that. Here instructions on how to compile and install libgccjit from source: <https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/JIT> Could you please be more specific about what is unclear or complicated in this message, and how would you like us to make it more clear and easy to understand?
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From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 08:51:06 +0200
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The configure sends a link, but I can’t find the source to compile out of that, neither can I understand, what the “smoke” test is. I tried to follow the instruktions, but god lost underway…. mvh Niels > Den 3. jun. 2021 kl. 08.46 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>: > >> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> >> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 07:54:44 +0200 >> >> When trying to compile (28.0.50) with --with-native-compilation, the >> ./configure comes out with libgccjit failed the smoke test, and the >> explanation for getting libgccjit is not easy, actual it's very >> complicated. > > The message is: > > Installed libgccjit has failed passing the smoke test. > You can verify it yourself compiling: > <https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/jit/intro/tutorial01.html>. > Please report the issue to your distribution if libgccjit was installed > through that. > Here instructions on how to compile and install libgccjit from source: > <https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/JIT> > > Could you please be more specific about what is unclear or complicated > in this message, and how would you like us to make it more clear and > easy to understand?
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> Cc: 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:49:37 +0300
> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> > Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 08:51:06 +0200 > Cc: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, > 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > The configure sends a link, but I can’t find the source to compile out of that, neither can I understand, what > the “smoke” test is. The link shows a source of a C program whose first line says: Smoketest example for libgccjit.so > I tried to follow the instruktions, but god lost underway…. You mean, the instructions on the URL how to compile the test program? They are quite simple: 2 shell commands. Anyway, I've modified that error message to say this instead: The installed libgccjit failed to compile and run a test program using the libgccjit library; see config.log for the details of the failure. The test program can be found here: <https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/jit/intro/tutorial01.html>. You can try compiling it yourself to investigate the issues. Please report the issue to your distribution if libgccjit was installed through that. You can find the instructions on how to compile and install libgccjit from source on this site: <https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/JIT>. Is this clear enough now? Thanks.
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From: Andrea Corallo <akrl <at> sdf.org> To: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 07:57:35 +0000
Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> writes: > The configure sends a link, but I can’t find the source to compile out > of that, Hi Niels, have you opened the link? The source is just there in the page. > neither can I understand, what the > “smoke” test is. The smoke test is just trying to use libgccjit to compile and run a function returning an integer of a certain value. Once you'll have tried compiling and running the example in the suggested link I guess you'll see what the configure script is seeing that is your libgccjit installation is not functional for some reason. Regards Andrea
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From: Andrea Corallo <akrl <at> sdf.org> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 08:12:41 +0000
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes: >> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> >> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 08:51:06 +0200 >> Cc: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, >> 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> The configure sends a link, but I can’t find the source to compile out of that, neither can I understand, what >> the “smoke” test is. > > The link shows a source of a C program whose first line says: > > Smoketest example for libgccjit.so > >> I tried to follow the instruktions, but god lost underway…. > > You mean, the instructions on the URL how to compile the test program? > They are quite simple: 2 shell commands. > > Anyway, I've modified that error message to say this instead: > > The installed libgccjit failed to compile and run a test program using > the libgccjit library; see config.log for the details of the failure. > The test program can be found here: > <https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/jit/intro/tutorial01.html>. Just a small note, the smoke test we run from the configure is not exactly the one of the link as we just compile a function returning an integer. Needless to say that most certainly if one works the other will too. Andrea
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From: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> To: nisoni <at> algon.dk Cc: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Subject: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 10:22:17 +0200
Hi Nils, in addition to libgccjit, you need to install gcc-11, and to insert somethin like the following into your .bash_profile export CC="/usr/local/Cellar/gcc/11.1.0/bin/gcc-11” (assuming you use homebrew to install additional unix tools). Konrad
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From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> To: Andrea Corallo <akrl <at> sdf.org> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 11:10:28 +0200
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Sorry, I tried the tutorial01, it failed withn not found the libgccjit library, then I tried to install the library with homebrew, whig said it was there, the I god into that a reintall loader the X86 instad of the ARM for my M1 iMac, so indtil futher, I give up, and will not attemp to compile 28.0.50 and just run on 27.2….. mvh Niels > Den 3. jun. 2021 kl. 10.12 skrev Andrea Corallo <akrl <at> sdf.org>: > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org <mailto:eliz <at> gnu.org>> writes: > >>> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> >>> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 08:51:06 +0200 >>> Cc: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, >>> 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >>> >>> The configure sends a link, but I can’t find the source to compile out of that, neither can I understand, what >>> the “smoke” test is. >> >> The link shows a source of a C program whose first line says: >> >> Smoketest example for libgccjit.so >> >>> I tried to follow the instruktions, but god lost underway…. >> >> You mean, the instructions on the URL how to compile the test program? >> They are quite simple: 2 shell commands. >> >> Anyway, I've modified that error message to say this instead: >> >> The installed libgccjit failed to compile and run a test program using >> the libgccjit library; see config.log for the details of the failure. >> The test program can be found here: >> <https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/jit/intro/tutorial01.html>. > > Just a small note, the smoke test we run from the configure is not > exactly the one of the link as we just compile a function returning an > integer. Needless to say that most certainly if one works the other > will too. > > Andrea
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From: Andrea Corallo <akrl <at> sdf.org> To: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> Cc: 48804-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 09:21:37 +0000
Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> writes: > Sorry, > I tried the tutorial01, it failed withn not found the libgccjit library, then I tried to install the library with > homebrew, whig said it was there, the I god into that a reintall loader the X86 instad of the ARM for > my M1 iMac, > so indtil futher, I give up, and will not attemp to compile 28.0.50 and just run on 27.2….. > > mvh > Niels Hi Niels, two points: 1- AFAIK gcc has still to be ported on darwin, libgccjit the same as a consequence. 2- In any case there's no need to run 27, you could run 28 also without using native compilation if you like. I'm closing this as this is not an Emacs bug. Thanks Andrea
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From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> To: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> Cc: nisoni <at> algon.dk, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 22:34:44 +0100
On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 10:22:17AM +0200, Konrad Podczeck wrote: > Hi Nils, > > in addition to libgccjit, you need to install gcc-11, and to insert somethin like the following into your .bash_profile > > export CC="/usr/local/Cellar/gcc/11.1.0/bin/gcc-11” > > (assuming you use homebrew to install additional unix tools). FYI GCC is unable to build GUI emacs on macOS (or at least the native GUI). And there's no requirement to build Emacs with GCC for native compilation to work, as long as libgccjit was installed with Homebrew, Emacs configure should be able to find it. -- Alan Third
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> Cc: nisoni <at> algon.dk, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 09:00:51 +0300
> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 22:34:44 +0100 > From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> > Cc: nisoni <at> algon.dk, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > in addition to libgccjit, you need to install gcc-11, and to insert somethin like the following into your .bash_profile > > > > export CC="/usr/local/Cellar/gcc/11.1.0/bin/gcc-11” > > > > (assuming you use homebrew to install additional unix tools). > > FYI GCC is unable to build GUI emacs on macOS (or at least the native > GUI). And there's no requirement to build Emacs with GCC for native > compilation to work, as long as libgccjit was installed with Homebrew, > Emacs configure should be able to find it. That is true, but AFAIK libgccjit invokes gcc as part of the native compilation, so GCC does need to be installed, even if Emacs is built with another compiler. (And maybe we should ping the GCC developers to finish the work on the features needed to build Emacs -- there's a Bugzilla PR, where, last time I checked, there was some work being done).
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From: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, nisoni <at> algon.dk, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 13:52:23 +0200
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> Am 04.06.2021 um 08:00 schrieb Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>: > >> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 22:34:44 +0100 >> From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> >> Cc: nisoni <at> algon.dk, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >>> in addition to libgccjit, you need to install gcc-11, and to insert somethin like the following into your .bash_profile >>> >>> export CC="/usr/local/Cellar/gcc/11.1.0/bin/gcc-11” >>> >>> (assuming you use homebrew to install additional unix tools). >> >> FYI GCC is unable to build GUI emacs on macOS (or at least the native >> GUI). And there's no requirement to build Emacs with GCC for native >> compilation to work, as long as libgccjit was installed with Homebrew, >> Emacs configure should be able to find it. > > That is true, but AFAIK libgccjit invokes gcc as part of the native > compilation, so GCC does need to be installed, even if Emacs is built > with another compiler. For this reason, I mailed to the homebrew people, and got this response: "What compiler are you using? Do you have Homebrew gcc installed?" After installing gcc-11 from homebrew, and inserting the line export CC="/usr/local/Cellar/gcc/11.1.0/bin/gcc-11” in my .bash_profile, the “smoke test" error message (about which this disussion started) was gone and I could build Emacs with the native compile option. > > (And maybe we should ping the GCC developers to finish the work on the > features needed to build Emacs -- there's a Bugzilla PR, where, last > time I checked, there was some work being done).
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From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> To: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:19:54 +0200
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Thanks, I’ve gcc 10.2.0_4 installed by Homebrew on my new iMac 24” (with M1), and can’t get a newer version, so I’ll properly have to wait ….. but thanks mvh Niels > Den 4. jun. 2021 kl. 13.52 skrev Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>: > > > >> Am 04.06.2021 um 08:00 schrieb Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org <mailto:eliz <at> gnu.org>>: >> >>> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 22:34:44 +0100 >>> From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org <mailto:alan <at> idiocy.org>> >>> Cc: nisoni <at> algon.dk <mailto:nisoni <at> algon.dk>, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org <mailto:48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> >>> >>>> in addition to libgccjit, you need to install gcc-11, and to insert somethin like the following into your .bash_profile >>>> >>>> export CC="/usr/local/Cellar/gcc/11.1.0/bin/gcc-11” >>>> >>>> (assuming you use homebrew to install additional unix tools). >>> >>> FYI GCC is unable to build GUI emacs on macOS (or at least the native >>> GUI). And there's no requirement to build Emacs with GCC for native >>> compilation to work, as long as libgccjit was installed with Homebrew, >>> Emacs configure should be able to find it. >> >> That is true, but AFAIK libgccjit invokes gcc as part of the native >> compilation, so GCC does need to be installed, even if Emacs is built >> with another compiler. > > > For this reason, I mailed to the homebrew people, and got this response: > > "What compiler are you using? Do you have Homebrew gcc installed?" > > After installing gcc-11 from homebrew, and inserting the line > > export CC="/usr/local/Cellar/gcc/11.1.0/bin/gcc-11” > > in my .bash_profile, the “smoke test" error message (about which this disussion started) was gone and I could build Emacs with the native compile option. >> >> (And maybe we should ping the GCC developers to finish the work on the >> features needed to build Emacs -- there's a Bugzilla PR, where, last >> time I checked, there was some work being done). >
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> Cc: alan <at> idiocy.org, nisoni <at> algon.dk, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 15:23:38 +0300
> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:19:54 +0200 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, > Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, > Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, > 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > I’ve gcc 10.2.0_4 installed by Homebrew on my new iMac 24” (with M1), and can’t get a newer version, so I’ll > properly have to wait ….. What's wrong with GCC 10? AFAIK, even GCC 7 comes with libgccjit that is good enough for Emacs.
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From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> Cc: nisoni <at> algon.dk, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 13:26:38 +0100
On 4 June 2021 13:23:38 BST, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote: >> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> >> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:19:54 +0200 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, >> Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, >> Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, >> 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> I’ve gcc 10.2.0_4 installed by Homebrew on my new iMac 24” (with M1), >and can’t get a newer version, so I’ll >> properly have to wait ….. > >What's wrong with GCC 10? AFAIK, even GCC 7 comes with libgccjit that >is good enough for Emacs. I believe that libgccjit only just added support for M1 processors in the last week or two, and for whatever reason the Intel emulation on the Macs doesn't work with the older libgccjit either. -- Alan
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> Cc: nisoni <at> algon.dk, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 15:32:13 +0300
> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 13:26:38 +0100 > CC: konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at,nisoni <at> algon.dk,48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> > > >> I’ve gcc 10.2.0_4 installed by Homebrew on my new iMac 24” (with M1), > >and can’t get a newer version, so I’ll > >> properly have to wait ….. > > > >What's wrong with GCC 10? AFAIK, even GCC 7 comes with libgccjit that > >is good enough for Emacs. > > I believe that libgccjit only just added support for M1 processors in the last week or two, and for whatever reason the Intel emulation on the Macs doesn't work with the older libgccjit either. Should we mention this in NEWS, where we announce native-compilation support? Knowing the prerequisites is important to avoid false expectations and frustration.
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From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: nisoni <at> algon.dk, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 13:59:41 +0100
On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 03:32:13PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I believe that libgccjit only just added support for M1 processors > > in the last week or two, and for whatever reason the Intel > > emulation on the Macs doesn't work with the older libgccjit > > either. > > Should we mention this in NEWS, where we announce native-compilation > support? Knowing the prerequisites is important to avoid false > expectations and frustration. Probably, unfortunately I can't work out what the actual prerequisites are. I don't have an M1 Mac so I can't even work it out myself. Perhaps someone else can help us, unless just saying "try a newer version on M1 Macs" is acceptable? -- Alan Third
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From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:59:54 +0200
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hello Now I god this error in the “configure —with-native-compilation” , checking AppKit/AppKit.h usability... no checking AppKit/AppKit.h presence... yes configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: present but cannot be compiled configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: check for missing prerequisite headers? configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: see the Autoconf documentation configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: section "Present But Cannot Be Compiled" configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: proceeding with the compiler's result configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## configure: WARNING: ## Report this to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org ## configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## checking for AppKit/AppKit.h... no configure: error: The include files (AppKit/AppKit.h etc) that are required for a Nextstep build are missing or cannot be compiled. Either fix this, or re-configure with the option '--without-ns’. And I didn’t specify “—with-ns” this time mvh Niels > Den 4. jun. 2021 kl. 14.32 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>: > >> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 13:26:38 +0100 >> CC: konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at,nisoni <at> algon.dk,48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> >> >>>> I’ve gcc 10.2.0_4 installed by Homebrew on my new iMac 24” (with M1), >>> and can’t get a newer version, so I’ll >>>> properly have to wait ….. >>> >>> What's wrong with GCC 10? AFAIK, even GCC 7 comes with libgccjit that >>> is good enough for Emacs. >> >> I believe that libgccjit only just added support for M1 processors in the last week or two, and for whatever reason the Intel emulation on the Macs doesn't work with the older libgccjit either. > > Should we mention this in NEWS, where we announce native-compilation > support? Knowing the prerequisites is important to avoid false > expectations and frustration.
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From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> To: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 15:03:30 +0200
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You can’t sat try a newer M! iMac, they were first released i april/may this year…... The big different is, that it is Apple Silicon and using ARM ( i blive it’s proparivary, but very near ARM V9) mvh Niels > Den 4. jun. 2021 kl. 14.59 skrev Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>: > > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 03:32:13PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> I believe that libgccjit only just added support for M1 processors >>> in the last week or two, and for whatever reason the Intel >>> emulation on the Macs doesn't work with the older libgccjit >>> either. >> >> Should we mention this in NEWS, where we announce native-compilation >> support? Knowing the prerequisites is important to avoid false >> expectations and frustration. > > Probably, unfortunately I can't work out what the actual prerequisites > are. I don't have an M1 Mac so I can't even work it out myself. > > Perhaps someone else can help us, unless just saying "try a newer > version on M1 Macs" is acceptable? > -- > Alan Third
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> Cc: alan <at> idiocy.org, nisoni <at> algon.dk, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 16:56:17 +0300
> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:59:54 +0200 > Cc: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, > Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, > Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>, > 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Now I god this error in the “configure —with-native-compilation” , > > checking AppKit/AppKit.h usability... no > checking AppKit/AppKit.h presence... yes > configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: present but cannot be compiled > configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: check for missing prerequisite headers? > configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: see the Autoconf documentation > configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: section "Present But Cannot Be Compiled" > configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: proceeding with the compiler's result > configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## > configure: WARNING: ## Report this to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org ## > configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## > checking for AppKit/AppKit.h... no > configure: error: The include files (AppKit/AppKit.h etc) that > are required for a Nextstep build are missing or cannot be compiled. > Either fix this, or re-configure with the option '--without-ns’. > > And I didn’t specify “—with-ns” this time Was the compiler GCC by any chance?
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From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:08:10 +0200
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Yes, 10.2.0_4 installed by Homebrew ben default on my machine mvh Niels > Den 4. jun. 2021 kl. 15.56 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>: > >> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> >> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:59:54 +0200 >> Cc: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, >> Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, >> Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>, >> 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Now I god this error in the “configure —with-native-compilation” , >> >> checking AppKit/AppKit.h usability... no >> checking AppKit/AppKit.h presence... yes >> configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: present but cannot be compiled >> configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: check for missing prerequisite headers? >> configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: see the Autoconf documentation >> configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: section "Present But Cannot Be Compiled" >> configure: WARNING: AppKit/AppKit.h: proceeding with the compiler's result >> configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## >> configure: WARNING: ## Report this to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org ## >> configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## >> checking for AppKit/AppKit.h... no >> configure: error: The include files (AppKit/AppKit.h etc) that >> are required for a Nextstep build are missing or cannot be compiled. >> Either fix this, or re-configure with the option '--without-ns’. >> >> And I didn’t specify “—with-ns” this time > > Was the compiler GCC by any chance?
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> Cc: alan <at> idiocy.org, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 17:15:23 +0300
> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:08:10 +0200 > Cc: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, > Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, > Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>, > 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > Yes, 10.2.0_4 > > installed by Homebrew ben default on my machine That's the problem: AFAIK Emacs cannot be built on macOS with GCC. And I don't think not specifying --with-ns avoids that problem. But I may be wrong, so please wait for Alan to respond.
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From: Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:33:43 +0200
> Am 04.06.2021 um 14:23 schrieb Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>: > >> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> >> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 14:19:54 +0200 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, >> Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, >> Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, >> 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> >> I’ve gcc 10.2.0_4 installed by Homebrew on my new iMac 24” (with M1), and can’t get a newer version, so I’ll >> properly have to wait ….. > > What's wrong with GCC 10? Probably nothing. I installed GCC-11 because it is the newest (on homebrew). The point is that the c-compiler coming with Apple’s Xcode seems not do the job. > AFAIK, even GCC 7 comes with libgccjit that > is good enough for Emacs.
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From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> Cc: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 15:43:08 +0100
On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 05:15:23PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> > > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:08:10 +0200 > > Cc: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, > > Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, > > Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>, > > 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Yes, 10.2.0_4 > > > > installed by Homebrew ben default on my machine > > That's the problem: AFAIK Emacs cannot be built on macOS with GCC. > And I don't think not specifying --with-ns avoids that problem. --with-ns is the default on macOS, so to build with GCC you need to specify --without-ns. But that's probably not what's wanted here. Neils, if you followed the suggestion elsewhere in this thread to set CC, please undo that and let configure find clang. Make sure you have the latest libgccjit installed with homebrew (version 11?). -- Alan Third
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From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> To: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 17:02:48 +0200
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I cannot get version 11 through Homebrew, the gewest I can get is 10.2.0_4 I’ll take out the eksport CC= from my .zshrc and try again mvh Niels > Den 4. jun. 2021 kl. 16.43 skrev Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>: > > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 05:15:23PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:08:10 +0200 >>> Cc: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, >>> Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, >>> Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>, >>> 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >>> >>> Yes, 10.2.0_4 >>> >>> installed by Homebrew ben default on my machine >> >> That's the problem: AFAIK Emacs cannot be built on macOS with GCC. >> And I don't think not specifying --with-ns avoids that problem. > > --with-ns is the default on macOS, so to build with GCC you need to > specify --without-ns. But that's probably not what's wanted here. > > Neils, if you followed the suggestion elsewhere in this thread to set > CC, please undo that and let configure find clang. > > Make sure you have the latest libgccjit installed with homebrew > (version 11?). > > -- > Alan Third
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From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> To: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> Cc: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 17:15:30 +0200
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hello with: ./configure --without-ns --with-x-toolkit=no -with-native-compilation --with-mailutils which is not what I really wants, we’re back to the original failure: checking libgccjit.h usability... yes checking libgccjit.h presence... yes checking for libgccjit.h... yes configure: error: The installed libgccjit failed to compile and run a test program using the libgccjit library; see config.log for the details of the failure. The test program can be found here: <https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/jit/intro/tutorial01.html>. You can try compiling it yourself to investigate the issues. Please report the issue to your distribution if libgccjit was installed through that. mvh Niels > Den 4. jun. 2021 kl. 17.02 skrev Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>: > > I cannot get version 11 through Homebrew, the gewest I can get is 10.2.0_4 > I’ll take out the eksport CC= from my .zshrc > and try again > > mvh > Niels > >> Den 4. jun. 2021 kl. 16.43 skrev Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org <mailto:alan <at> idiocy.org>>: >> >> On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 05:15:23PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk <mailto:nisoni <at> algon.dk>> >>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:08:10 +0200 >>>> Cc: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk <mailto:nisoni <at> algon.dk>>, >>>> Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org <mailto:alan <at> idiocy.org>>, >>>> Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at <mailto:konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>>, >>>> 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org <mailto:48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org> >>>> >>>> Yes, 10.2.0_4 >>>> >>>> installed by Homebrew ben default on my machine >>> >>> That's the problem: AFAIK Emacs cannot be built on macOS with GCC. >>> And I don't think not specifying --with-ns avoids that problem. >> >> --with-ns is the default on macOS, so to build with GCC you need to >> specify --without-ns. But that's probably not what's wanted here. >> >> Neils, if you followed the suggestion elsewhere in this thread to set >> CC, please undo that and let configure find clang. >> >> Make sure you have the latest libgccjit installed with homebrew >> (version 11?). >> >> -- >> Alan Third >
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From: Doug Davis <ddavis <at> ddavis.io> To: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:04:01 -0400
Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> writes: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 05:15:23PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> > From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> >> > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 16:08:10 +0200 >> > Cc: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk>, >> > Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, >> > Konrad Podczeck <konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at>, >> > 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> > >> > Yes, 10.2.0_4 >> > >> > installed by Homebrew ben default on my machine Homebrew provides binaries for gcc 11.1 and libgccjit 11.1. The libgccjit page quotes 11.1 as the current version (https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/libgccjit) Perhaps try to track down why your Homebrew installation isn't finding the latest formula? >> >> That's the problem: AFAIK Emacs cannot be built on macOS with GCC. >> And I don't think not specifying --with-ns avoids that problem. > > --with-ns is the default on macOS, so to build with GCC you need to > specify --without-ns. But that's probably not what's wanted here. > > Neils, if you followed the suggestion elsewhere in this thread to set > CC, please undo that and let configure find clang. > > Make sure you have the latest libgccjit installed with homebrew > (version 11?). With the latest gcc & libgccjit installed I'm writing this email from the Emacs master branch on an M1 MacBook Air compiled with: $ CFLAGS="-O3 -g3 -I/opt/homebrew/opt/libgccjit/include" LDFLAGS="-L/opt/homebrew/opt/libgccjit/lib/gcc/11/" ./configure --with-native-compilation $ make -j7 $ src/emacs
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> Cc: alan <at> idiocy.org, nisoni <at> algon.dk, konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#48804: 27.2; compilation emacs on macOS Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 21:55:50 +0300
> From: Niels Søndergaard <nisoni <at> algon.dk> > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 17:15:30 +0200 > Cc: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, > Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, > konrad.podczeck <at> univie.ac.at, > 48804 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > > with: ./configure --without-ns --with-x-toolkit=no -with-native-compilation --with-mailutils > which is not what I really wants, > > we’re back to the original failure: > > checking libgccjit.h usability... yes > checking libgccjit.h presence... yes > checking for libgccjit.h... yes > configure: error: The installed libgccjit failed to compile and run a test program using > the libgccjit library; see config.log for the details of the failure. > The test program can be found here: > <https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/jit/intro/tutorial01.html>. > You can try compiling it yourself to investigate the issues. > Please report the issue to your distribution if libgccjit was installed > through that. Don't set CC in the environment. Instead, add the directory where the gcc compiler driver (the 'gcc' executable file) is installed to your PATH, but after the directory where clang is installed. Also, make sure you don't have on PATH a 'gcc' executable that actually calls clang. The problem is that you need clang as your compiler to build Emacs, but you need to arrange for libgccjit to find 'gcc' and its C compiler ('cc1').
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