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This is more a feature request than a bug-report. At the moment the
recommended way to show extra information about certain lines in a
buffer is the fringe. This is done by defining a fringe-bitmap and then
having that render onto the fringe, however this is a graphical
only solution and terminal frames don't support this. Some packages such
as flycheck let you work around this by rendering what you would've
rendered on the frame, onto the margin which supports rendering regular
strings (alongside any other string-properties such as faces) that can
be visible in both terminal and GUI frames.
However as a solution that isn't ideal, for one margins weren't designed
for this purpose and for another there doesn't seem to be a way to set
the background or other properties of a margin to make it resemble the
fringe (in my case I'd like the background of the margin to match
the fringe background but only for the left margin where I will show the
fringe indicators). There's also the issue with interference between
this representation and other packages such as olivetti that use the
margin to center text.
I'd like to recommend we support rendering both text and bitmaps onto
the fringe, rendering nothing (or perhaps a block element) if a package
tries to render a bitmap on a terminal frame.
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> From: mohsin kaleem <mohkale@HIDDEN>
> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2021 14:30:23 +0100
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>
> This is more a feature request than a bug-report. At the moment the
> recommended way to show extra information about certain lines in a
> buffer is the fringe. This is done by defining a fringe-bitmap and then
> having that render onto the fringe, however this is a graphical
> only solution and terminal frames don't support this. Some packages such
> as flycheck let you work around this by rendering what you would've
> rendered on the frame, onto the margin which supports rendering regular
> strings (alongside any other string-properties such as faces) that can
> be visible in both terminal and GUI frames.
> However as a solution that isn't ideal, for one margins weren't designed
> for this purpose and for another there doesn't seem to be a way to set
> the background or other properties of a margin to make it resemble the
> fringe (in my case I'd like the background of the margin to match
> the fringe background but only for the left margin where I will show the
> fringe indicators). There's also the issue with interference between
> this representation and other packages such as olivetti that use the
> margin to center text.
> I'd like to recommend we support rendering both text and bitmaps onto
> the fringe, rendering nothing (or perhaps a block element) if a package
> tries to render a bitmap on a terminal frame.
Sorry, I don't understand: you begin by saying that fringe bitmaps
have a disadvantage for TTY frames, and end by requesting a different
features with the same disadvantage? Or what did I miss?
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>> From: mohsin kaleem <mohkale@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2021 14:30:23 +0100
>>
>>
>> This is more a feature request than a bug-report. At the moment the
>> recommended way to show extra information about certain lines in a
>> buffer is the fringe. This is done by defining a fringe-bitmap and then
>> having that render onto the fringe, however this is a graphical
>> only solution and terminal frames don't support this. Some packages such
>> as flycheck let you work around this by rendering what you would've
>> rendered on the frame, onto the margin which supports rendering regular
>> strings (alongside any other string-properties such as faces) that can
>> be visible in both terminal and GUI frames.
>> However as a solution that isn't ideal, for one margins weren't designed
>> for this purpose and for another there doesn't seem to be a way to set
>> the background or other properties of a margin to make it resemble the
>> fringe (in my case I'd like the background of the margin to match
>> the fringe background but only for the left margin where I will show the
>> fringe indicators). There's also the issue with interference between
>> this representation and other packages such as olivetti that use the
>> margin to center text.
>> I'd like to recommend we support rendering both text and bitmaps onto
>> the fringe, rendering nothing (or perhaps a block element) if a package
>> tries to render a bitmap on a terminal frame.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand: you begin by saying that fringe bitmaps
> have a disadvantage for TTY frames, and end by requesting a different
> features with the same disadvantage? Or what did I miss?
Dear Eli,
Apologies I seem to have misunderstood the usage or implementation of
fringes vs. margins.
In retrospect the distinction isn't all that important.
I've tried using the margin based approach for the past few days and
the only issue I still have left is that there's no-way to specify the
default face for the margin (something akin to the `fringe' face).
Ideally I'd like to be able to do so separately for the left and right
margins (as I really only intend to use one of them), but otherwise the
rest of the issues I raised in my original email can be disregarded.
What are your thoughts on having a dedicated face for the margin?
Thank you,
---
Mohsin K.
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> From: Mohsin Kaleem <mohkale@HIDDEN>
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>
> What are your thoughts on having a dedicated face for the margin?
Lisp programs display in the margins by putting string-valued
properties on buffer text. While doing that, how hard is it to
specify the face for those strings? it's just one call to 'propertize'
away.
By default, the text displayed in the margins inherits the face of the
text on which you put the corresponding properties, right? Why isn't
that a good default?
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> From: Mohsin Kaleem <mohkale@HIDDEN>
> Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2021 04:20:56 +0100
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> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> writes:
>
> >> From: Mohsin Kaleem <mohkale@HIDDEN>
> >> Cc: 48901 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 23:10:33 +0100
> >>
> >> What are your thoughts on having a dedicated face for the margin?
> >
> > Lisp programs display in the margins by putting string-valued
> > properties on buffer text. While doing that, how hard is it to
> > specify the face for those strings? it's just one call to 'propertize'
> > away.
> >
> > By default, the text displayed in the margins inherits the face of the
> > text on which you put the corresponding properties, right? Why isn't
> > that a good default?
>
> I understand that but I still think there should be a built-in face that
> these other margin faces can inherit from.
> At the moment for example `diff-hl-mode` uses `diff-hl-margin-change`,
> and several other faces for the margin indicators. I've set these up to
> inherit from my `fringe` face so where diff-hl-mode attaches a margin
> indicator it looks like its on the fringe. However where it doesn't no
> default margin face exists so diff-hl-mode just applies the `default`
> face which looks out of place alongside margin faces.
> Now of course I could send a PR over to diff-hl-mode to ask them to let
> me specify a face for sections that don't have anything diff-hl needs to
> highlight, but then I'd have to do the same for every other package that
> does something like this for the margin; admittedly I only know of 2
> such packages atm so it's manageable, however a built in default face to
> inherit from seems to me like the best way to do this.
What you ask for might not be easy to implement. AFAIR, Emacs
determines the face of the characters before it knows where they will
be displayed. Since the text on the margins is displayed using text
or overlay properties similar to other uses of these properties, by
the time Emacs knowns some text needs to be displayed on the margin
it's too late: the face has been already merged.
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