Received: (at 48950) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2021 12:45:06 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 13 08:45:06 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42943 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lsPUA-0004J5-AL for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 08:45:06 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53722) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1lsPU5-0004Dj-Bp for 48950 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 08:45:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=KXB/Z8tI9NvTL2864dUrZF+HYkFCS0015FOq7+jfx4Q=; b=ndecHIWoeP3Rp8yVDMLyR/nU5u 5yW9FThyFWtY22xmPoBzZM0s7IbWbejEhz9jBOcoNxrDUaj9TUl51HQ8OKjDuQlVyijlHBNa8TkXd 3G70kk37uRkf+sEMjuLEpq8/vtKxonc5iZffvNACNQzMBNTGGmWmjBO9oq1osyS5QbM0=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <larsi@HIDDEN>) id 1lsPTx-00049Z-6o; Sun, 13 Jun 2021 14:44:55 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> To: Alex Bochannek <alex@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#48950: 28.0.50; Gnus nnvirtual selection with positive prefix shows newest articles of component groups References: <m25yylfm47.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Now-Playing: Slam's _#savefabric (8)_: "Government Problem" Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 14:44:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <m25yylfm47.fsf@HIDDEN> (Alex Bochannek's message of "Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:25:28 -0700") Message-ID: <87o8ca2at7.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Alex Bochannek <alex@HIDDEN> writes: > I am not sure if this behavior is intentional or not, but it surprised > me and I thought I'd ask before I invest time changing it. > > When selecting an `nnvirtual' group with a numeric prefix, I s [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 48950 Cc: 48950 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Alex Bochannek <alex@HIDDEN> writes: > I am not sure if this behavior is intentional or not, but it surprised > me and I thought I'd ask before I invest time changing it. > > When selecting an `nnvirtual' group with a numeric prefix, I see the > newest messages of each of its component groups and not the newest > messages of the combined group. Yup. It's pretty annoying and should be fixed, but I didn't see any easy way to do that the last time I poked at it (which was a couple decades ago). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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Full text available.Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2021 21:26:16 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 10 17:26:16 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37790 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1lrSBs-0003gN-2s for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:26:16 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:51180) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <alex@HIDDEN>) id 1lrSBo-0003gD-8D for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:26:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39320) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <alex@HIDDEN>) id 1lrSBo-0006ya-1c for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:26:12 -0400 Received: from ns.lapseofthought.com ([50.0.39.240]:63893 helo=mail.lapseofthought.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <alex@HIDDEN>) id 1lrSBk-0003CM-Av for bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:26:11 -0400 Received: from awb-mbp.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:646:4200:b470:d455:1f9f:5d32:8cd0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lapseofthought.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4G1H7s4RTqz3pdqQ for <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN>; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:25:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Bochannek <alex@HIDDEN> To: bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN Subject: 28.0.50; Gnus nnvirtual selection with positive prefix shows newest articles of component groups Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:25:28 -0700 Message-ID: <m25yylfm47.fsf@HIDDEN> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=alex smtp.mailfrom=alex@HIDDEN Received-SPF: pass client-ip=50.0.39.240; envelope-from=alex@HIDDEN; helo=mail.lapseofthought.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hello! I am not sure if this behavior is intentional or not, but it surprised me and I thought I'd ask before I invest time changing it. When selecting an `nnvirtual' group with a numeric prefix, I see the newest messages of each of its component groups and not the newest messages of the combined group. Example: I have a group made up of four component groups. I do a 'C-u 2 0 <SPC>' and I end up with the five most recent messages from each of the groups. Below you see the dates of the 20 most recent messages when I open the combined group on the left, compared to the 20 most recent messages when I open it with prefix. Today, 06:06 Tuesday 20:55 Today, 06:19 Tuesday 20:59 Today, 06:44 Yesterday, 17:27 Today, 06:45 Yesterday, 17:31 Today, 07:27 Yesterday, 17:57 Today, 07:31 Today, 01:15 Today, 08:13 Today, 02:34 Today, 08:30 Today, 02:41 Today, 09:02 Today, 02:44 Today, 09:18 Today, 04:57 Today, 10:00 Today, 09:02 Today, 10:01 Today, 10:00 Today, 10:45 Today, 10:45 Today, 10:51 Today, 10:51 Today, 11:15 Today, 11:15 Today, 11:32 Today, 11:32 Today, 12:05 Today, 12:05 Today, 12:13 Today, 12:13 Today, 12:27 Today, 12:27 Today, 12:56 Today, 12:56 All messages on the left are from two high volume groups. The other two groups don't show up on the left list at all and you can tell by the time stamps that the first five messages on the right are from a low volume group. I can see some value to using the approach to show messages from all groups, but that fails when I select fewer groups than there are component groups. I may only see an older message from a low-volume group instead of the one new message that was just posted to a high-volume group. Can you explain the expected behavior to me? Thanks! -- Alex.
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