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This does appear to be the same bug. This bug can be closed as a duplicate. Looks like Andy Wingo suggested a potential fix, but there was no follow-up. If someone is willing to show me the ropes when I need them, I can take a stab at learning the Guile codebase and fixing the bug. Vijay On 7/7/21 3:29 AM, Taylan Kammer wrote: > On 07.07.2021 02:31, Vijay Marupudi wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> It is unclear to me what the intended behavior for (include >> "filename.scm") is, so I'm sending an email about this potential bug. >> >> The Local Inclusion docs >> <https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Local-Inclusion.html> >> seem to state that relative paths are found relative to the file that >> included them. >> >>> If file-name is a relative path, it is searched for relative to the >>> path that contains the file that the include form appears in. >> >> So if I have a file "/libraries/libname/main.scm" than has (include >> "./helpers.scm"), then the file "/libraries/libname/helpers.scm" >> *should* (I think) be imported. >> >> But this does not seem to work if "/libraries" is in the GUILE_LOAD_PATH >> and my current working directory is somewhere else, say "/home/user" and >> I'm running "/home/user/program.scm" that imports the (libname main) >> library from "/libraries". Then Guile seems to try to include the >> "libname/helpers.scm" file from the current directory, which does not >> exist. >> >> Conversations with leoprikler in IRC have revealed to me that >> call-with-include-port is the function responsible for this behavior >> <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guile.git/tree/module/ice-9/psyntax.scm#n3231>. >> `syntax-source` returns a file path relative to the load path, and >> include tries to use that path to open a file relative to the current >> working directory. >> >> In Guile's bug guidelines >> <https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/docs-2.2/guile-ref/Reporting-Bugs.html>, >> to me this fits >> >> * Whenever documentation and actual behavior differ, you have certainly >> found a bug, either in the documentation or in the program. >> >> and potentially >> >> * When some part of the documentation is not clear and does not make >> sense to you even after re-reading the section, it is a bug. >> >> I believe this is a bug, but I may be wrong, so emailing to clarify. >> Thank you! >> >> Vijay Marupudi >> PhD Student in Human Centered-Computing >> Georgia Institute of Technology > > Hi Vijay, > > I believe this is the same bug as this one I reported 5-6 years ago: > > https://bugs.gnu.org/21613 > > Sadly there was no progress on it as far as I know. >
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Hi Vijay,
On +2021-07-06 19:31:38 -0500, Vijay Marupudi wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> It is unclear to me what the intended behavior for (include
> "filename.scm") is, so I'm sending an email about this potential bug.
>
> The Local Inclusion docs
> <https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Local-Inclusion.html>
> seem to state that relative paths are found relative to the file that
> included them.
>
> > If file-name is a relative path, it is searched for relative to the
> > path that contains the file that the include form appears in.
>
> So if I have a file "/libraries/libname/main.scm" than has (include
> "./helpers.scm"), then the file "/libraries/libname/helpers.scm"
> *should* (I think) be imported.
>
A little nit, but
(include "filename.scm")
is not identical to
(include "./filename.scm")
so might it be worth trying
(include "helpers.scm")
in your code?
And/or should the docs explain that both ways of writing a relative
file name in this context are or are not acceptable?
Might some macro dislike leading dots?
Long shot ;-)
> But this does not seem to work if "/libraries" is in the GUILE_LOAD_PATH
> and my current working directory is somewhere else, say "/home/user" and
> I'm running "/home/user/program.scm" that imports the (libname main)
> library from "/libraries". Then Guile seems to try to include the
> "libname/helpers.scm" file from the current directory, which does not
> exist.
>
> Conversations with leoprikler in IRC have revealed to me that
> call-with-include-port is the function responsible for this behavior
> <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guile.git/tree/module/ice-9/psyntax.scm#n3231>.
> `syntax-source` returns a file path relative to the load path, and
> include tries to use that path to open a file relative to the current
> working directory.
>
> In Guile's bug guidelines
> <https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/docs-2.2/guile-ref/Reporting-Bugs.html>,
> to me this fits
>
> * Whenever documentation and actual behavior differ, you have certainly
> found a bug, either in the documentation or in the program.
>
> and potentially
>
> * When some part of the documentation is not clear and does not make
> sense to you even after re-reading the section, it is a bug.
>
> I believe this is a bug, but I may be wrong, so emailing to clarify.
> Thank you!
>
> Vijay Marupudi
> PhD Student in Human Centered-Computing
> Georgia Institute of Technology
>
>
>
>
--
Regards,
Bengt Richter
bug-guile@HIDDEN:bug#49452; Package guile.
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[109.90.125.150]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p15sm17574221wmq.43.2021.07.07.01.29.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Jul 2021 01:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#49452: Confusing behavior with (include) used in file in GUILE_LOAD_PATH To: Vijay Marupudi <vijaymarupudi@HIDDEN>, 49452 <at> debbugs.gnu.org References: <7b37a89f-39a6-1433-daf4-469a40656a6b@HIDDEN> From: Taylan Kammer <taylan.kammer@HIDDEN> Message-ID: <f043844e-dc06-6849-688a-d780e4706237@HIDDEN> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 10:29:49 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7b37a89f-39a6-1433-daf4-469a40656a6b@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49452 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 07.07.2021 02:31, Vijay Marupudi wrote: > Hello all, > > It is unclear to me what the intended behavior for (include > "filename.scm") is, so I'm sending an email about this potential bug. > > The Local Inclusion docs > <https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Local-Inclusion.html> > seem to state that relative paths are found relative to the file that > included them. > >> If file-name is a relative path, it is searched for relative to the >> path that contains the file that the include form appears in. > > So if I have a file "/libraries/libname/main.scm" than has (include > "./helpers.scm"), then the file "/libraries/libname/helpers.scm" > *should* (I think) be imported. > > But this does not seem to work if "/libraries" is in the GUILE_LOAD_PATH > and my current working directory is somewhere else, say "/home/user" and > I'm running "/home/user/program.scm" that imports the (libname main) > library from "/libraries". Then Guile seems to try to include the > "libname/helpers.scm" file from the current directory, which does not > exist. > > Conversations with leoprikler in IRC have revealed to me that > call-with-include-port is the function responsible for this behavior > <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guile.git/tree/module/ice-9/psyntax.scm#n3231>. > `syntax-source` returns a file path relative to the load path, and > include tries to use that path to open a file relative to the current > working directory. > > In Guile's bug guidelines > <https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/docs-2.2/guile-ref/Reporting-Bugs.html>, > to me this fits > > * Whenever documentation and actual behavior differ, you have certainly > found a bug, either in the documentation or in the program. > > and potentially > > * When some part of the documentation is not clear and does not make > sense to you even after re-reading the section, it is a bug. > > I believe this is a bug, but I may be wrong, so emailing to clarify. > Thank you! > > Vijay Marupudi > PhD Student in Human Centered-Computing > Georgia Institute of Technology Hi Vijay, I believe this is the same bug as this one I reported 5-6 years ago: https://bugs.gnu.org/21613 Sadly there was no progress on it as far as I know. -- Taylan
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envelope-from=vijaymarupudi@HIDDEN; helo=NAM12-MW2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Jul 2021 02:28:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Hello all, It is unclear to me what the intended behavior for (include "filename.scm") is, so I'm sending an email about this potential bug. The Local Inclusion docs <https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/manual/html_node/Local-Inclusion.html> seem to state that relative paths are found relative to the file that included them. > If file-name is a relative path, it is searched for relative to the > path that contains the file that the include form appears in. So if I have a file "/libraries/libname/main.scm" than has (include "./helpers.scm"), then the file "/libraries/libname/helpers.scm" *should* (I think) be imported. But this does not seem to work if "/libraries" is in the GUILE_LOAD_PATH and my current working directory is somewhere else, say "/home/user" and I'm running "/home/user/program.scm" that imports the (libname main) library from "/libraries". Then Guile seems to try to include the "libname/helpers.scm" file from the current directory, which does not exist. Conversations with leoprikler in IRC have revealed to me that call-with-include-port is the function responsible for this behavior <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guile.git/tree/module/ice-9/psyntax.scm#n3231>. `syntax-source` returns a file path relative to the load path, and include tries to use that path to open a file relative to the current working directory. In Guile's bug guidelines <https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/docs/docs-2.2/guile-ref/Reporting-Bugs.html>, to me this fits * Whenever documentation and actual behavior differ, you have certainly found a bug, either in the documentation or in the program. and potentially * When some part of the documentation is not clear and does not make sense to you even after re-reading the section, it is a bug. I believe this is a bug, but I may be wrong, so emailing to clarify. Thank you! Vijay Marupudi PhD Student in Human Centered-Computing Georgia Institute of Technology
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