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Long ago NEWS.19 got this delightful entry:

** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard
X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the
/usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations).  I.e. if
it works in xterm, it should also work in emacs now.

This has long since stopped working.  I found a workaround of (require 
'iso-transl), which handles a few cases but not even a western European 
dead-cedilla is handled.  Even if I do (require 'ogonek), dead-ogonek is 
not handled.  All other programs still do this fine, why did Emacs 
forget about this?

Btw. this is Ubuntu 9.10 and the file name is 
/usr/*share*/X11/locale/*/Compose but I guess configure, which I ran 
from CVS should have detected that.

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<font size="+1">Long ago NEWS.19 got this delightful entry:<br>
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** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard<br>
X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the<br>
/usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations).  I.e. if<br>
it works in xterm, it should also work in emacs now.<br>
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This has long since stopped working.  I found a workaround of (require
'iso-transl), which handles a few cases but not even a western European
dead-cedilla is handled.  Even if I do (require 'ogonek), dead-ogonek
is not handled.  All other programs still do this fine, why did Emacs
forget about this?<br>
<br>
Btw. this is Ubuntu 9.10 and the file name is /usr/<b>share</b>/X11/locale/*/Compose
but I guess configure, which I ran from CVS should have detected that.</font><br>
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> ** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard
> X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the
> /usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations).  I.e. if
> it works in xterm, it should also work in Emacs now.
> This has long since stopped working.

I don't use dead keys, but I use the compose key extensively, and it
works just fine in my Emacs.  Can you give more detail to try and
reproduce your problem?


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Hi Stefan,



la 11/17/2009 11:22 PM Stefan Monnier skribis:
>> ** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard
>> X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the
>> /usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations).  I.e. if
>> it works in xterm, it should also work in Emacs now.
>> This has long since stopped working.
>>     
>
> I don't use dead keys, but I use the compose key extensively, and it
> works just fine in my Emacs.  Can you give more detail to try and
> reproduce your problem?
>   
what details, I don't really know.  It might be Ubuntu specific, because 
it appeared long ago when I switched from SuSE to Ubuntu.  At the time I 
figured it must have to do with a newer Emacs, because xterm and all Gtk 
and Qt apps had and have no problem.  Sorry I didn't report it then, I 
guess this is two years back.

I think compose is not pertinent, because IMHO that does the combining 
in the X-server and sends the combined char, as though you had a key for 
it, like German äöüß is no problem even without loading iso-transl.

I'm attaching my very personal keymap (which covers my normal German 
external keyboard, the built in American one, with Z and Y switched 
German style and Esperanto letters).  I've stuffed in all dead-keys, 
like AltGr-, for cedilla,  AltGr-Shift-, for ogonek and AltGr-^ for 
circumflex.  I load it with xkbcomp -xkb .X/keymap/daniel $DISPLAY, but 
you could just as well just set one dead key with xmodmap IIRC.

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Hi Stefan,<br>
<br>
<br>
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la 11/17/2009 11:22 PM Stefan Monnier skribis:
<blockquote cite="mid:jwvzl6kn676.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@HIDDEN"
 type="cite">
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    <pre wrap="">** Dead-key and composite character processing is done in the standard
X11R6 manner (through the default "input method" using the
/usr/lib/X11/locale/*/Compose databases of key combinations).  I.e. if
it works in xterm, it should also work in Emacs now.
This has long since stopped working.
    </pre>
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  <pre wrap=""><!---->
I don't use dead keys, but I use the compose key extensively, and it
works just fine in my Emacs.  Can you give more detail to try and
reproduce your problem?
  </pre>
</blockquote>
what details, I don't really know.  It might be Ubuntu specific,
because it appeared long ago when I switched from SuSE to Ubuntu.  At
the time I figured it must have to do with a newer Emacs, because xterm
and all
Gtk and Qt apps had and have no problem.  Sorry I didn't report it
then, I guess this is two years back.<br>
<br>
I think compose is not pertinent, because IMHO that does the combining
in the X-server and sends the combined char, as though you had a key
for it, like German äöüß is no problem even without loading iso-transl.<br>
<br>
I'm attaching my very personal keymap (which covers my normal German
external keyboard, the built in American one, with Z and Y switched
German style and Esperanto letters).  I've stuffed in all dead-keys,
like AltGr-, for cedilla,  AltGr-Shift-, for ogonek and AltGr-^ for
circumflex.  I load it with xkbcomp -xkb .X/keymap/daniel $DISPLAY, but
you could just as well just set one dead key with xmodmap IIRC.<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="78">coralament / best Grötens / liebe Grüße / best regards / elkorajn salutojn
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