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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Is that because of `make-obsolete-variable's (indent defun) spec? (And > is that even appropriate?) > > Did you see examples where the edebug spec based mechanism you added > failed? 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(And > is that even appropriate?) > > Did you see examples where the edebug spec based mechanism you added > failed? Or maybe only this part: > > (and (eq (get symbol 'lisp-indent-function) 'defun) > (get 'defun 'edebug-form-spec)) > > was inappropriate? The problem wasn't just with this function -- it turns out that we have quite a few things that are used as top-level defining constructs that aren't marked in any special way. The old heuristics (i.e., "just use the second bit in the form") handle these correctly. But that means that I have no ideas for a practical way to fix the issue this was supposed to fix -- i.e., top-level (progn ;; (foo-bar) ...) and such.
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Subject: Re: bug#49592: 28.0.50; lisp-current-defun-name and non-standard
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Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN> writes:
> 2022-08-23 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@HIDDEN>
>
> * lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp-mode.el (lisp-current-defun-name): Revert
> back to the old version before bug#49592. The new approach just
> doesn't work well enough -- we don't really have the data to know
> that, say, `make-obsolete-variable' is about the second symbol and
> not the first.
Is that because of `make-obsolete-variable's (indent defun) spec? (And
is that even appropriate?)
Did you see examples where the edebug spec based mechanism you added
failed? Or maybe only this part:
(and (eq (get symbol 'lisp-indent-function) 'defun)
(get 'defun 'edebug-form-spec))
was inappropriate?
Michael.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Have you checked how other major modes handle this case? > > Would also be interesting if they also all use > `add-log-current-defun-function' or if `which-func-functions' are also > used. I would n [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49592 Cc: 49592 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Have you checked how other major modes handle this case? > > Would also be interesting if they also all use > `add-log-current-defun-function' or if `which-func-functions' are also > used. I would not want to special-case Elisp if not necessary. The only in-tree mode that sets `which-func-functions' is python.el, so I guess all other modes punt to `add-log-current-defun-function'.
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Have you checked how other major modes handle this case? Would also be interesting if they also all use `add-log-current-defun-function' or if `which-func-functions' are also used. I would not want to special-case Elisp if not necessary. Michael.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Should we make the "fall back: display the name of the first symbol > after opening paren" case look different from the standard case? > > For which-func display in the mode-line I'd find "(progn .. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 49592 Cc: 49592 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Should we make the "fall back: display the name of the first symbol > after opening paren" case look different from the standard case? > > For which-func display in the mode-line I'd find "(progn ...)" nice, > but I guess that would not be suitable for the "add-log" case. Ah, I'd forgotten -- yes, that'd look better, but we'd have to rearrange the calling sequence a bit since, as you say, we don't want that in the add-log case. Or perhaps we could add a hack like adding a text property to the string to let which-func know that it should wrap the result in "( ...)"?
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Makes sense - but I don't know if it's a big win and Edebug specs help out in enough cases (lots of macros don't have one, even in Emacs itself, e.g. `defvar-keymap'). Anyway, it wouldn't harm and motivate people even more to write Edebug specs. Or do you intent to give up the heuristic of using the first argument completely? I don't think that would be a good idea. Because this heuristic works very well in practice IME. AFAIR, most of the time, or every time, when I saw the heuristic of `lisp-current-defun-name' failed, the top-level expression was not a defining form (like in my example) and `lisp-current-defun-name' returned the complete sexp - and treating this case specially would already give quite good results I think. Michael.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@HIDDEN> writes: > Isn't "defun" synonymous with "top-level-form" in such cases > (e.g. `end-of-defun')? Yes, I guess. 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Yes, I guess. >> But this is also used by add-log, so perhaps >> which-func should just use something completely different and more >> strict. I.e., skip back to the top-level form, and then use the edebug >> spec to pick out the name? > > I don't follow - edebug-spec of what, in the above case? I was suggesting that we could use the edebug spec (instead of heuristics) if it exists, and otherwise fall back on something simple, like just showing "(<first top-level symbol> ...)" if there is no edebug spec with a `name' in it.
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Isn't "defun" synonymous with "top-level-form" in such cases (e.g. `end-of-defun')? > But this is also used by add-log, so perhaps > which-func should just use something completely different and more > strict. I.e., skip back to the top-level form, and then use the edebug > spec to pick out the name? I don't follow - edebug-spec of what, in the above case? Michael.
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comment ;; about that (define-key ...) ) With `which-function-mode' enabled, more or less the complete expression is shown in the mode-line (with newlines escaped) when moving into the expression. The reason: `lisp-current-defun-name' doesn't check for whether the second subexpression of a top-level expression is still on the same line - it just returns a string including everything (i.e. all comments) in between. Dunno what the best fix is. In the above case returning something like "(progn ...)" would be best, since the second subexpression is not even a name (a symbol). TIA, Michael. In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 38, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.24, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2021-07-16 built on drachen Repository revision: c5d6d45b48b2a4799ad1d27a2e7551113801b097 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12010000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB
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