GNU bug report logs - #4973
23.1.50; Please provide access to Emacs's quick reference cards on the Help menu

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:45:06 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Tags: wontfix

Done: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>

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Report forwarded to bug-submit-list <at> lists.donarmstrong.com, Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>:
bug#4973; Package emacs. (Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:45:07 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>. (Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:45:07 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com>
To: emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.1.50; Please provide access to Emacs's quick reference cards on 
	the Help menu
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:40:47 -0500
In 2007, at http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/65537/focus=65629
, dak wrote:

> Maybe we should link to [the Emacs quick reference card] in some
> manner, like offering to call
> (shell-command
>   (format (mailcap-mime-info "application/postscript")
>      (expand-file-name "refcard.ps" data-directory)))

That's an excellent idea.  You should make the many quick reference
cards that you ship in emacs/etc/refcards accessible on the Help menu.
 Could you please do that?

-- 
This product is sold by volume, not by mass.  If it appears too dense or
too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during
shipping.



Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'normal' Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:15:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to bug-submit-list <at> lists.donarmstrong.com, Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>:
bug#4973; Package emacs. (Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:45:08 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>. (Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:45:08 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #12 received at 4973 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
To: "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 4973 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4973: 23.1.50; Please provide access to Emacs's quick reference cards on the Help menu
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:32:34 +0200
> In 2007, at http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/65537/focus=65629
> , dak wrote:
>
>> Maybe we should link to [the Emacs quick reference card] in some
>> manner, like offering to call
>> (shell-command
>>   (format (mailcap-mime-info "application/postscript")
>>      (expand-file-name "refcard.ps" data-directory)))
>
> That's an excellent idea.  You should make the many quick reference
> cards that you ship in emacs/etc/refcards accessible on the Help menu.
> Could you please do that?

Actually a bad idea as we concluded in
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/65537/focus=105365

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/



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Acknowledgement sent to Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman <at> gmail.com>:
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Message #17 received at 4973 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman <at> gmail.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>, 4973 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#4973: 23.1.50; Please provide access to Emacs's quick 
	reference cards on the Help menu
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:20:08 +0100
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org> wrote:
>> In 2007, at http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/65537/focus=65629
>> , dak wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe we should link to [the Emacs quick reference card] in some
>>> manner, like offering to call
>>> (shell-command
>>>   (format (mailcap-mime-info "application/postscript")
>>>      (expand-file-name "refcard.ps" data-directory)))
>>
>> That's an excellent idea.  You should make the many quick reference
>> cards that you ship in emacs/etc/refcards accessible on the Help menu.
>> Could you please do that?
>
> Actually a bad idea as we concluded in
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/65537/focus=105365


I can't see that we concluded that. Rather we had different arguments.
And things are changing.



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bug#4973; Package emacs. (Thu, 19 Nov 2020 02:53:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #20 received at 4973 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>, "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com>,
 4973 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4973: 23.1.50; Please provide access to Emacs's quick
 reference cards on the Help menu
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 18:52:10 -0800
Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman <at> gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org> wrote:
>>> In 2007, at http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/65537/focus=65629
>>> , dak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe we should link to [the Emacs quick reference card] in some
>>>> manner, like offering to call
>>>> (shell-command
>>>>   (format (mailcap-mime-info "application/postscript")
>>>>      (expand-file-name "refcard.ps" data-directory)))
>>>
>>> That's an excellent idea.  You should make the many quick reference
>>> cards that you ship in emacs/etc/refcards accessible on the Help menu.
>>> Could you please do that?
>>
>> Actually a bad idea as we concluded in
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/65537/focus=105365
>
>
> I can't see that we concluded that. Rather we had different arguments.
> And things are changing.

It's been 11 years here without any progress.

It seems extremely simple to add the reference cards to the help menu,
should we want to do it.  So I assume there just isn't much enthusiasm
for the idea, and I tend to agree: I don't see that it's very useful or
necessary to make the help menu longer for this.

I'd be inclined to close this as wontfix.  Any other opinions?




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Message #23 received at 4973 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com>,
 Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman <at> gmail.com>, 4973 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4973: 23.1.50; Please provide access to Emacs's quick
 reference cards on the Help menu
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 07:37:30 +0100
Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:

> I'd be inclined to close this as wontfix.  Any other opinions?

Yes, I think so, too.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




Added tag(s) wontfix. Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 24 Nov 2020 16:19:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug closed, send any further explanations to 4973 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com> Request was from Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Tue, 24 Nov 2020 16:19:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#4973; Package emacs. (Tue, 24 Nov 2020 16:20:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #30 received at 4973 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro4 <at> gmail.com>,
 Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman <at> gmail.com>, 4973 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4973: 23.1.50; Please provide access to Emacs's quick
 reference cards on the Help menu
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 08:18:48 -0800
tags 4973 wontfix
close 4973
thanks

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> writes:
>
>> I'd be inclined to close this as wontfix.  Any other opinions?
>
> Yes, I think so, too.

Done.




bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Wed, 23 Dec 2020 12:24:09 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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