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27.2; auto-save-visited-mode blanks out the echo area after 5 seconds

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From: meedstrom <at> teknik.io
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.2; auto-save-visited-mode blanks out the echo area after 5 seconds
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:06:53 +0000

Hey heroes,

So this has been troubling me for years, I thought it was just a part of
how Emacs worked.  But it cannot be intended.  Often there are complex
prompts that take time to read, such what lsp-mode asks you upon
visiting a .sh buffer.  Then after 5 seconds, the prompt text
disappears, but the minibuffer is still active and awaiting your reply.

To test it:

- M-x auto-save-visited-mode
- edit any buffer
- eval (message "foo")
- wait 5 secs

You'll see "foo" disappear.

I could look at how to solve this, but I'd need guidance.  The mode
calls save-some-buffers after 5 idle seconds, and I thought we could
wrap it in a let-binding that sets save-silently to t.  But it still
blanks the echo area. I also tried wrapping it in Doom Emacs' extensive
'quiet!' macro, and it still blanks the echo area.  Is this misbehavior
on the part of save-some-buffers?

Martin Edström



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Message #8 received at 50224 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: meedstrom <at> teknik.io
Cc: 50224 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#50224: 27.2;
 auto-save-visited-mode blanks out the echo area after 5 seconds
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 15:39:09 +0300

> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:06:53 +0000
> From: meedstrom--- via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
> 
> So this has been troubling me for years, I thought it was just a part of
> how Emacs worked.  But it cannot be intended.  Often there are complex
> prompts that take time to read, such what lsp-mode asks you upon
> visiting a .sh buffer.  Then after 5 seconds, the prompt text
> disappears, but the minibuffer is still active and awaiting your reply.
> 
> To test it:
> 
> - M-x auto-save-visited-mode
> - edit any buffer
> - eval (message "foo")
> - wait 5 secs
> 
> You'll see "foo" disappear.

I cannot reproduce this, neither in Emacs 27.2 nor in the current Git
master.  I see some message flash momentarily after 5 sec, but then
"foo" gets restored.

I wonder what do you do differently to make Emacs behave like you say?

Thanks.

Message #11 received at 50224 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: meedstrom <at> teknik.io, 50224 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#50224: 27.2; auto-save-visited-mode blanks out the echo
 area after 5 seconds
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:17:46 +0200

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> I cannot reproduce this, neither in Emacs 27.2 nor in the current Git
> master.  I see some message flash momentarily after 5 sec, but then
> "foo" gets restored.

Yup.  I also get a flash of 

Saving file /tmp/foo...
Wrote /tmp/foo

but then "foo" reappears.

(This is with "emacs -Q" and the current Emacs 28.)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #18 received at 50224 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: meedstrom <at> teknik.io
Cc: 50224 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#50224: 27.2; auto-save-visited-mode blanks out the echo
 area after 5 seconds
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 04:37:35 +0200

meedstrom <at> teknik.io writes:

> So this has been troubling me for years, I thought it was just a part of
> how Emacs worked.  But it cannot be intended.  Often there are complex
> prompts that take time to read, such what lsp-mode asks you upon
> visiting a .sh buffer.  Then after 5 seconds, the prompt text
> disappears, but the minibuffer is still active and awaiting your reply.
>
> To test it:
>
> - M-x auto-save-visited-mode
> - edit any buffer
> - eval (message "foo")
> - wait 5 secs
>
> You'll see "foo" disappear.

Is previously noted, this doesn't seem to be reproducible in a stock
Emacs (i.e., "emacs -Q"), so perhaps this is caused by something in your
configuration?  Can you reproduce the problem with "emacs -Q"?

Also note that messaging when there's an active minibuffer has been
changed in Emacs 28 so that it'll never overwrite the prompt (but
instead add a [message] to the end of the echo area).

Finally, note that you can set `set-message-function' to filter out any
messages that you don't want to have happen.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #21 received at 50224 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: meedstrom <at> teknik.io
Cc: 50224 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#50224: 27.2; auto-save-visited-mode blanks out the echo
 area after 5 seconds
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 12:46:59 +0200

meedstrom <at> teknik.io writes:

> That's right, stock Emacs doesn't have the problem.  I don't have the
> first idea how to track it down, guess I'll declare bankruptcy or
> bisect the config when I have time. You can close the bug, and I can
> make a new report if I find it. Thanks for the tips!

No problem; I'm closing this bug report, then.

Message #26 received at 50224 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: meedstrom <at> teknik.io
To: "Lars Ingebrigtsen" <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 50224 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#50224: 27.2; auto-save-visited-mode blanks out the echo
 area after 5 seconds
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 15:37:08 +0000

For the curious, we found the issue. It relates to a workaround for map-y-or-n-p behavior, at https://github.com/hlissner/emacs-solaire-mode/blob/030964f7c62696c8cfb29125df6e7649d2bf9aeb/solaire-mode.el#L516-L531

Discussion https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs/issues/5525

Martin Edström

September 27, 2021 10:47 AM, "Lars Ingebrigtsen" <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:

> meedstrom <at> teknik.io writes:
> 
>> That's right, stock Emacs doesn't have the problem. I don't have the
>> first idea how to track it down, guess I'll declare bankruptcy or
>> bisect the config when I have time. You can close the bug, and I can
>> make a new report if I find it. Thanks for the tips!
> 
> No problem; I'm closing this bug report, then.

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