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Full text available.Received: (at 50270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2021 18:35:59 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 30 14:35:58 2021 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60243 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1mKm8U-0005IE-OZ for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 14:35:58 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:56460) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eggert@HIDDEN>) id 1mKm8T-0005I2-Hu for 50270 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 14:35:57 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B88B160109; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 11:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 0eWWUU6UjXe7; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 11:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D928160111; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 11:35:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 19akFC_76ibE; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 11:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 69C64160109; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 11:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#50270: Suggestion To: Ojas Zanpure <ojaszanpure@HIDDEN> References: <CABPVZEKHCEirS4BWmca+p8shiFEjJsTpsU+T3RbHLvE=ih0oVQ@HIDDEN> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@HIDDEN> Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <2d8a5a1a-04c3-1ed7-b9de-d6e15e0d28f4@HIDDEN> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 11:35:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <CABPVZEKHCEirS4BWmca+p8shiFEjJsTpsU+T3RbHLvE=ih0oVQ@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 50270 Cc: 50270 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) On 8/30/21 5:14 AM, Ojas Zanpure wrote: > It might be confusing for a beginner whether he > executed the command correctly, if he doesn't see anything on screen. True. However, grep's behavior here is standardized by POSIX and a lot of people rely on it, so I don't think we can change it. If there's any consolation, 'grep' is intended for experts (and you are now an expert ;-).
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Whenever I search for something using grep and it doesn't find any results, it doesn't return anything. My suggestion is, instead of just sending the user nothing, how about having a message like, "No results matching those parameters". It might be confusing for a beginner whether he executed the command correctly, if he doesn't see anything on screen. Regards, Ojas --0000000000003d027805cac5c843 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I am a new linux user and I have us= ed grep a couple of times, and I had a suggestion. Whenever I search for so= mething using grep and it doesn't find any results, it doesn't=C2= =A0return anything. My suggestion is, instead of just sending the user noth= ing, how about having a message like, "No results matching those param= eters". It might be confusing for a beginner whether he executed the c= ommand correctly, if he doesn't see anything on screen.</div><div><br><= /div><div>Regards,</div><div>Ojas</div></div> --0000000000003d027805cac5c843--
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